Comments on: Second death hi enge? https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/ wateva........ Tue, 28 Nov 2017 14:36:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.8 By: nastycool https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-899165 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:15:14 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-899165 In comments ho chu a ngaihnawm hlawm kher mai, interesting hle bawk. Kei chu ka hriatthiam phak bak thil a ni tlat. Bible in thil lo thleng tur a tih te an lo thlen hun ah chuan, thu dik chu kan la hre mai ang chu. Hetiang ideology a debate neih hi a nuam hle na a, tangkaina vak a neih ka hre tlat lo, kei mi mawl hian.

Hun kal tawh te, hun lo la awm tur ngaihtuah vak vak te, Rapture,tribulation te, sakawlh identity, khawvel tawp hun tur…. etc lo sawi vak vak hi a tangkaina ka hre tlat lo mai. Tun ( present) hi a pawimawh ber ani lom ni? Engtik lai pawh a thi maithei vek kan ni a, kan thih ni hi kan tan khawvel tawp ani nghal ani lawm ni?

Pratical Christianity hi i ngaipawimawh zawk ang u. Isuan Galilee dil kam a, mi mawl leh simple te te ho bula chanchintha a zirtir kha chu a simple in, a chiang khawp mai. Mizo te hi khawvel a Bible chhiar peih ber, hre ber kan ni ang, tu pawh mai hian kan arguments support turin Bible chang leh bung ka quote thei vek.Tin,inkhawm, inkhawmpui, camping, crusade adt nei hnem ber kan ni hial ang. Kan nun ah Christian nun dan tur hmuh tur a vang si. :-P

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By: ltachhakchhuak https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898909 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:17:34 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898909 #69
chawnghilh

“Isua Krista kha kan THIH ai a THI a; chatuana kan thih (thih hnihna) ai a thi tawh a. Chatuana meidila thi thei lova RAWH kan nih ai a thi lo. Chatuana thi thei lova RAWH tur ni ila, Nazareth Isua pawh kha thi lova RAWH a ngai ang”

Hei chu ka lo en chiang miah lo a alawm le. Dik hmel fu, dik tluan lo a nih hmel.

I postulate danah chuan “Thlarau lamah chuan THI chiang het hawt tak an ni” i tiah. Mahse Nephesh aka taksa hi thisen a lei ngai , tlan ngai a nih daih hi maw. Visible nephesh ngei hi a tlan daih hi. Thlarau nise thlarau kha a thi ve tur hi a ni. Mahse thlarau a thilo, taksa a ni a thih daih.

Juda vision-ah nephesh hi thlarau hnuai hnung ber anlo ti a ni maw! Alo nih pawhin ka pawmpui tho e, Pathian thilsiam hi endawng lutuk tur a ni hlei nem. Mahse Thlarau hnuai hnung ber/visible hi a bawhchhiat avangin visible bawk nephesh alo kal a ni mai.

A awmzia chu thlarau a thih chuan thlarau vekin tlan se, hmuhtheih taksa hi thihlen tur(Nataka mei aka thlarauin a kan hnu a tih tawp vang vang tur) a nih avangin chumi tlan nan taksa aka mihring aka Yeshua alo thi hmasa a ni zawk. Chumi avang chuan mitupawh chu kan thih hlenna tur lak ata min thih hmasak sak a. Amahah chuan minung kan ni, chu chu Piantharna chiah kha..a thui lutuk dawn, inman loh chuan awmzia a awmchuang dawnlo tlat :-P

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By: mr.Duhlova https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898458 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 15:59:42 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898458 74

Nih hmel mah mah zawk e a…. (Y)

Nilo ti thei ka nilo..

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By: ultimate https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898454 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 15:55:42 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898454 Ellen G White a ni zawk lo maw?

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By: mr.Duhlova https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898410 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 15:22:06 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898410 21
Lt…..Ka hnial ve miah lo che a nia..:-)

1st. Resurrection:

Rapture (Mithiang -hlimlawr) pawmtu te ngaihdan tlangpui.
(Mi zawng zawng in, mi thianghlim lawr hi, an ring kher lo. Allen G.White kha alo ‘thaw thelh’ tawh bawk nen) –

Bible hian thawhlehna hmasa leh thawhlehna hnuhnung a sawi a. A hmasa zawk hi rapture (Mithiang -hlimlawr) awm ringtu te chuan, “anti Christ lo lan hun”, “great tribulation” leh “harmagedon indo” pumpelh tura a mithianghlim te a lawr hun turah an ngai a. Chu chu, evangelism period tawp hun ah, Mat.23:14 denchhenin, I Thes 4:14-17 hi lo thleng turah an beisei a.

Hetih hunah hian, Abrahama fapa Isaaka’n a nupui tur, Aliezara ‘mo’ rawn hruai ‘Rebeki’ kawng chanve a alo hmuak ang khan, Tho leh Isua’n, a nupui hual ‘mo’, ‘kohhran’ a lo hmuak nen an teh khin bawk.

He khawvela Anti Christ rorelna te, tih duhdahna rapthlak (tribulation) te leh harmagedon indona awm mek laiin, Lalpa leh a mi thianghlim te chuan ‘Beram no ruai kilin, nunna lallukhum te leh lawman an dawng dawn a. Chutah, Lal Isua hovin, kum sang rorel turin, he khawvelah anlo chhuk ang.

Harmagedon indona ah hian, Israel, hnam chapo ho tih tlawm an ni ang a, Lal Isua au lo thei lova siam turin khawvel in an do rawn dawn a ni. An ral tak ngial dawn avanga, an mangang tawpkhawk-in, Lal Isua an au ve ta nge nge a nga, ti chuan, Acts. 1:11; Zak. 14:4 hi lo thleng dik in Olive tlangah Lal Isua leh a thuhruaite, kum sang rorel turin an lo lang ang. Satana pawh kum 1000 atan phuarin a awm nghal ang a. (Re. 20:1-3). Kum sang rorel ah hian, Matt. 25:31-46, Beram leh Kel (Ringtu tak tak leh a lem) thliarna a awm ang.

Kum sang rorel zawh hian, Satana phuar phelh a ni ang a, lei kil li a hnam te, Goga leh Magoga chu buma hruaikhawmin, Mithianghlimte awmna Jerusalem chu a han run dawn ni awm tak a ni. (Re. 20:7-10) Mahse, van atangin mei alo tla a, an ni chu a kangral ta.

He khawvela tihduhdahna rapthlaka Lal Isua tana martar ngamte Lal Isua ho va, kum 1000 ro an rel tur thu min hrilh bawk a (Re.20:4). Mahse tuna, awlsam tak a ‘rinna avanga khawngaihna a chhandam’ nih theih lai a, ring tha duhlo te zingah, martar thisena lei chu an tam lo mai thei. Mahse, Pathian khawngaih ropui zia ala lang e.

Rapture pawm lemlotu te pawm dan:

First resurrection:

“Nimahsela Krista chu mitthi zing ata kaihthawhin a awm tak zet a ni, muhilte thawh hmahruaitu a lo ni ta.” …..(1 Co 15:20)

Lal Isua vanlawn atang a chanchin Tha hril darh a nih a ringtute anlo pun atang khan tihduhdahna hi a nasa in, ‘Dark Age’ tih hial a ni. Constantine’n Kristiana a lo pawmpui takah chuan Kristianna alo zalen tan ta chauh a nih kha.(Re.2 a. Balaama zirtirna Lal Isuan a duhlohna chhan kha chhui tham a awm(compromise hi Lal Isuan a duh lo).

Kha dark age hunlaia tihduhdahna rapthlak a Lal Isua tana martar ngamte kha Lal Isua ho va, kum 1000 ro an rel tur thu min hrilh bawk a (Re.20:4). Chung chu mithi tho hmasa turte (Re 20:6) tiin, min hrilh. Chumi hun chu, evangelism period tawp hun ah, Mat.23:14 denchhenin, I Thes 4:14-17 hi lo thleng turah an beisei a. (update 10/40 window te kan thlir chuan, Chanchintha la hril lohna hi chu a pan tiar tiar tawh viau a ni.)

Bible min hrilh danin, Kum sang rorel zawh hian, Satana phuar phelh a ni ang a, lei kil li a hnam te, Goga leh Magoga chu buma hruaikhawmin, Mithianghlimte awmna Jerusalem chu a han run dawn ni awm tak a ni. (Re. 20:7-10) Mahse, van atangin mei alo tla a, an ni chu a kangral ta.

2nd. Resurrection
Chutah mithi thawhlehna hnuhnung, 2nd. Resurrection – Re. 20:11-15 hi a lo thleng a nga, mithi tawh zawng zawng rorelsak turin Chungnung Bera hmaah an ding ang a, Nunna Bu a hming chuang lo chu, chatuan meipuiah paih an ni ang.
Chutah lei thar leh Van thar…..Re 21. Chutah Re. 22 ah, Eden huan a Nunna thing, bawhchhiatna avanga Cherub leh Khandaih virtawn in a ven chu, ringtu te tuallenna a ni tawh ang.

“Tin, an chhuahna ram chu lungkham sela chuan hawnna remchang an hmu tawh ngei tur a ni.Nimahsela, tunah zawng ram tha lehzual chak an lo ni a, chu chu vana mi a ni; chutichuan Pathianin an Pathian tiha awm chu a zak lo ve; an tan khua lam a lo buatsaihsak tawh si.” (He.11:16)

Pu Chawnghilh sawi ka hriat thawi ka han phuah belh mai mai a nia, inlo chawtak khuk pui a nge, in hnial phei chu ka peih ve miah lo a nia…ka dang a ni sa mai..:-D .

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By: ultimate https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898389 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 15:02:52 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898389 Tun hnai in ‘theological debate’ (han ti ve ngawt ila) ho hi luhai bur khawpin ka chhiar thin a, patla pawh ka lo khai ve dar dar thin. Ropui ka ti thlawt. Zoho leh lta lam tang an tlem deuh a, pawi ka ti hial mai. Hriat tur ka ngah zia leh ka lo hriat tlem zia ka hre pha viai2. Ka misual member pui ho lo turu zia ka hriat phah rualin ka insit zual a, ka inthlahrung zo vek a ni ber e.

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By: Vladimir Putin https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898319 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:58:03 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898319 Sudden Death nen chuan a inang chiah lo ani maw, in sawi hmangin. A goal hmasak bera chak zawn nihna lam ahih hmel loh.

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By: donald https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898161 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 11:29:32 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898161 Dik khawp mai. Bible-in chatuana meidila RAWH tur a tih loh avang hian chutianga zirtir chu a dik kher lo ang. Mahse chatuana meidila paih tur an nih thu erawh chiang takin a sawia .. pawm mai tur a ni. Mitthite an tholeh anga, nunna bua hming chuang lote chu meidila paih tur an ni. Chu meidil chu diabola leh a pawlte, chatuana a chhun a zana nghaisak an nihna hmun a nih thu Thupuanah chiang taka ziak a ni ( 20:10). Hetiang hi kohhran pawhin a zirtir dan a ni reng a.

Mihringin a bawhchhiat khan a hremna chu thihna a ni.. kros-a khenbeh tur tih a ni kher lo. Chutiangin meidila rawh tur tih pawh a ni hran lova, roreltu Pathian remruat danin a thleng mai a ni. Isua ring lotute erawh chu meidila paih tur an ni tih hi Bible zirtirna chiang em em a ni e. Meidil tak hi eng nge a ni phei zawng chiang taka hrilh kan ni lo thung. Mithiamte ngaihdan pawh a inang lo nasa ve hle. Literal fire ni lova thlarau lam mei nia ngai pawh an pung tial tial. A Grik hian chutiang lam chu a support zawk niawm tak a ni.

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By: chawnghilh https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898094 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:38:13 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898094 In dek tha thuai thuai hlawm ngei mai!

SIMPLE takin aw …

Vaivuta din kan ni. Vaivuta kir leh tur kan ni bawk. Islam inzirtir danah chuan TUI-a siam, ruang pawh a thu zul mai a, tui vekin a kir let. Pathian Thu nen a inkalh pang mai.

Pathianin hluma a siam hnarkuaah a “nunna thaw (neshamah chayim) a thawk khum a, mi nung (nephesh) a lo ni ta. Nephesh hi Jews ngaihdanah chuan thlarau hnuaihnung ber a ni.

“In ei ni la lain in thi ang,” —an ei ni khan phisically tak chuan an thi em? An nung; mahse THI an nih an inhre lo. Thlarau lamah chuan THI chiang het hawt tak an ni.

Savun kawrfual siamsa a awm lo, thisen chhuaka a vun lih (flay) a ngai … thisen chhuak lovin ngaihdamna reng a awm lo. Savun kawrfual neih nana THISEN khan Kalvary a melh thleng.

Hebrai 11-ah chuan, ziakin, “thawhlehna tha LEHZUAL beisei an awm,” —thawhlehna hrim hrim chu Elija khan Sarepta hmeithai fapa a kaitho tawh. Thuthlung tharah chuan Jaira fanu (Gentiles), Nain khaw hmeithai fapa rawlthar leh Beth-Ani khuaa Lazara chungah a thleng … chungho kaithotu pawh Abib 17 tlaiah, AD 30 khan Pa Pathianin a kai tho.

Isua tiam loh, thawhlehna chang tawhte khi Greek tawnga SOMATA (tisa)-a tho leh te an ni. “An hmeichhiaten mitthi tho leh an hmu a …” tia Hebrai 11-a ziaka awmte kha an ni.

Tin, Bible tam takah hian Matthaia ziakah bik Krista thawhleh hnu khan mi thianghlimte an thawh thu ziakin a awm a. Bible zirmite tawngkamah phei chuan MINI RESURRECTION an ti hial a. Mahse, THAWHLEHNA ni lovin, RILRU TIHHARHSAKNA a nih zawk thu Greek tawng lam atangin a ni thung. (Hun dangah kan lo chhui chiang lehzual dawn nia.) A chian lehzualna pawh Pentecost ni khan Petera thusawi-ah Davida meuh pawh a la thawh lohzia tarlan chian a nih kha.

Thawhlehna hmasa (first resurrection)-a thote engthawl tur thu ziak a awm leh a. Thawhlehna hnuhnunga thote rorelsak an nih tur thu leh zahna, mualphonaa kal tur an nihzia ziak a ni bawk a.

Johana 3:16-ah chuan, “Pathianin khawvel a hmangaih em em a, chutichuan, a Fapa mal neihchhun a pe a. Amah chu tupawh a ring apiang an BORAL LOH-va, chatuana nunna an neih ZAWK nan …” tih thu a lang chiang a. Chatuana Nunna nei nei hlen turin First Resurrection-a thawh a ngai a.

Johana 3:16 hre chiang lova ngaina ve em em hi kan tam khawp mai. A ring apiang an BORAL LOH …awmzia hi ringlote BORAL (THIH) turzia a chiang hle si!

Thu Puan 20:6 Thawhlehna hmasa bera telte chu an engthawlin an thianghlim a ni; chungho chungah chuan thih hnihna chuan thu reng a nei lo va, Pathian leh Krista puithiamte an ni ang a, amah nen kum sangkhat rorelin an awm zawk ang.

Thu puan 2:11 Thlarauvin kohhranho hnena thu a sawi hi beng nei chuan hre rawh se. A hnehtu apiang thih hnihna chuan engmah a tih lo vang, a ti e’ tiin.

First Resurrection, Isua lokal leh huna thote chu Krista puithiam leh lalte an ni dawn a, kum sangkhat Isua hova ROREL (reigning) turte an ni a —he kum sangkhat lalram hi “lalna hmasa (first dominion), Siamtharlehna (restitution/restoration), Kum Sang Lalram (Millennium) hun tur chu a ni. He lei siamthara rorelna tur a ni.

Isua kha Davida Lalthutthleng rochung tura ruat a ni tlat a. Davida Lalthutthleng chu khawi planet-ah mah a awm lo va, he lei planet-ah pawh Jerusalem-ah kher a awm a.

Hmelma hnuhnung ber thihna chu Millennium hnu-a thleng tur a ni.

Thu Puan 20:14 Tin, Thihna leh Mitthi Khuate chu mei dilah an paih a. Chu chu thih hnihna chu a ni – mei dil chu.
20:15 Tu hming pawh Nunna Bua ziak an hmuh loh chuan mei dilah an paih bawk a.

Thu Puan 21:8 Amaherawhchu, mi dawih te, ring lo te, tenawm te, tualthat te, inngaih ching te, dawithiam te, milem bia te, dawthei zawng zawngte chan tur chu mei leh kata kang dilah chuan a awm ang; chu chu thih hnihna chu a ni,” a ti a.

Isua Krista kha kan THIH ai a THI a; chatuana kan thih (thih hnihna) ai a thi tawh a. Chatuana meidila thi thei lova RAWH kan nih ai a thi lo. Chatuana thi thei lova RAWH tur ni ila, Nazareth Isua pawh kha thi lova RAWH a ngai ang.

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By: ltachhakchhuak https://misual.life/2012/03/08/second-death-hi-enge/comment-page-2/#comment-898037 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:41:43 +0000 https://misual.life/?p=92078#comment-898037 #67
vakul

Ni e, la inzir ka ngai nasa khawp mai. THian tha bible sikul kal lai leh BD zirlai ka thiante pawh hian mikhawlh ve takah chuan mindahsa tawh hrim hrim a lawm. Mahse hei hi inzirna leh thudik zawnna zel a nia. Ka lo sawi uar deuh a nih chuan sermon ang deuh a aw puam te nen lam kha lo suangtuah dawn nia, ka tang lutuk mah mah vang vek a nih kha :-)

Pakhat leh chu Zoho nena inchukha emaw inrochun kan ni hauhlo a nia aw. Keichu a hran liau liau. Zoho hian engnge a post tawh hi ka la hre lo. Pathum vel chu ka chhiar tawh mai thei. Keima irawmchhuak a ka post zawng zawng thlirlet chung leh bible keu ngat a ka rawn thaichhuah a ni. Dik tak chua Zoho nen hian kan inbah fo thin a nia. :-D

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