Bible atangin Gay i thlir ila!

October 13th, 2008 8:38 am by H.Vangchhia

Ka comment hi post law law tura ngenna a awm avangin ka han post ta mai e.

Mawngkawhur tan ho khan in ngaihdan tunlai khawvel ah chuan applicable a ni ti zawngin in lo sawi a, hei hi hre rawh u. Pathian lehkhabu thianghlim kan tih Holy Bible ah hian Pathian hian sual chitin reng zing a a curse tak meuh ka hmuh chhun chu mawngkawhurna chiah hi a ni awm e.

Bible thu hi a thumal chu sawi loh chhun han khat pawh tih danglam khap tlat tu Pathian hian Bible a inziak chhut thara danglam ta te(English pawn) hi a pawm ang em…. Tin, Bible hi Pathian/Isua Krista thu leh hla kan hriat theihna chhun kan innghahna tur a ni (guide book). Kan rinna ti chaktu atan kan belh thin a, mahni ngaihdan ni lova, a thu ngei kan pawm chuan kan him tih hriat pawh a tha hle awm e.

Engpawh nise, 1 Timothea 1:10 ah khan Pathian in dan asiam chhan kan hmu thei ang.

Bible warnings: Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus: 20:13, Deuteronomy 22:5, 1 Korinth 6:9-11,

Pathian in Mawngkawhurna pawilo ti ho a vau lawk na: Rom 1:18,26,27,32

A zawngrang tawng in tihian i han sawi ta ilang :-

The Christian (a follower of Jesus-Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel) is commanded to ‘love others and treat them as we would want to be treated.’ According to the Bible, a person living in homosexual sin “will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven” and those who “approve of those who do such things” will be held just as guilty. Jesus-Yeshua, the Messiah’s first command was to ‘repent’ (turn away from those things which are in opposition to God’s Law) and then to trust in Him alone to save us from all our sins.

He said He came to ’save sinners’ … lots of them … both Jew and Gentile … any who would believe and trust in Him. The Bible warns until we acknowledge we are sinners and we desperately need a Savior (to save us from our sins … past, present, and future) we won’t be saved from Hell . . .

Proverbs 27:6 God says, ‘Faithful are the wounds of a friend … but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.’ Jesus-Yeshua said more about Hell than He did about Heaven … and the true believing Christian will try to get as many boys, girls, men, and women into the Kingdom of Heaven as possible.

If a Christian truly hated the homosexual (or anyone willfully sinning against God’s law) they would simply keep silent and let them suffer in the eternal darkness, loneliness, and torment of Hell. Yet, all believing Christians have had to come face-to-face with the fact we are all sinners and desperately need a ‘Savior’ to save us from our sins and from Hell. Jesus-Yeshua, the Messiah, commands us to ‘love our enemies’ … and you can’t love someone without warning them when they are in great and grave danger …

So, i’m warning you…not just you/them gays but also to those who approved it saying, “in this modern world,” blah blah blah for the words of God are the words of eternity… forever and ever and will never change. And God does not go by our opinions.

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111 Responses to “Bible atangin Gay i thlir ila!”

  1. 1
    Aryan Says:

    I tui bawka i thu post khi kan deconstruct sak teh ang che.

    Vangchhia says “Bible ah hian Pathian hian sual chitin reng zing a a curse tak meuh ka hmuh chhun chu mawngkawhurna chiah hi a ni awm e.”

    Ai en thiam leh Nu leh Pa an chhe lawh hi mawngkawhur ho a curse na ang chiah in Pathian in a curse ve tho tih i hria em? I hriat ka ringlo, i hre duh bawk hek lo, mawngkawhur ho condemn nana i Bible chang thlan hnuai chiah ah a in ziak, i hmu duh lo der tlat, a chhan chu i hriat dan zim te a support loh vangin.

    Vangchhia says “Jesus-Yeshua, the Messiah, commands us to ‘love our enemies’ … and you can’t love someone without warning them when they are in great and grave danger”

    Nang chuan a opposite chiah i ti, sawichhiat nan chiah i hmang, i sawi anga, mawngkawhur ka ten, ti chung khan tuman i lovely warning kha an ngaithla hauh lovang.

    Bible pawn lama tanga thlir in a hma a I post tawh dan atanga en phei chuan Sap zinga white supremacist hovin Negro ho an vun rawng dum vanga a tena an ten hluah hluah ringawt te, Mizo thenkhat zinga nghapih ho hmu sit em em a ektum ai pawh a ngai nep te ho nen mawngkawhur i en dan hi a in ang chiah.

  2. 2
    Aryan Says:

    Chu bakah I thu post khi word by word a he website a tanga lak chhawn hi ani e https://www.alphanewsdaily.com/.....ality.html

    Credit pe lova mahni irawm chhuak ni awm taka lo post ve ringawt hi Academic Rules ah chuan Plagiarism kan ti, University zirlai chu nila an hnawtchhuak nawl nawl ang che :mrgreen:

  3. 3
    chhurliana Says:

    Engtik tak chhang ang maw?? Engtin ni zel ang maw???

  4. 4
    chhurliana Says:

    In settle theih loh chuan ka lo inrawlh mai thei.

  5. 5
    bembem Says:

    Interesting:

    In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, in their home near Sacramento, California. Speaking to his mother from the Shasta County jail, Matthew explained his actions in this way: “I had to obey God’s law rather than man’s law,” he said. “I didn’t want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law… I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures.” After Matthew Shepard was killed in 1998, a pastor in North Carolina published an open letter regarding the trial of Aaron McKinney that read: “Gays are under the death penalty. His blood is guilty before God (Lev. 20:13). If a person kills a gay, the gay’s blood is upon the gay and not upon the hands of the person doing the killing. The acts of gays are so abominable to God. His Word is there and we can’t change it. Source: https://www.soulforce.org

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    Borat Says:

    Holy Bible is not the source of legislation or jurisprudence. Indian Penal code, Cr.PC and other laws govern this land. Moreover, why do people think that all Mizos are Christians ? They are not. Even if Bible is to be our law, Jesus taught love, not hatred. If he handled prostitutes kindly, would he propagate harsh treatment of gays ?

  7. 7
    Aryan Says:

    Ni chiah America ramah phei chuan Separation of Church and State chiangkuang takin American constitution 1st amendment ah an neih kha. Bembem rawn post Pathian in mawngkawhur that turin min ti, ti kha Muslim Terrorist in American tawh phawt chu that turin Allah in min ti, ti nen a dang lam vak hmel lo ve.

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    bembem Says:

    Ni e…interesting reng a ni!! Ethics..social norms… te hi legislation leh jurisprudence sawi dawn chuan a pawimawh khawp mai…Bible zirtirna hi source pawimawh tak a ni… Church leh Bible chu thil hran a ni bawk!

  9. 9
    Alejendro Says:

    Bible hi han ti thla ve ngawt ila, in ti chhen sia ka rawn ti ve ngawt. Duhlai zawng lak chhuah a, duhloh lai zawng peih chi a nilo. Hei hi Mizo tam tak in kan tihdan pawh ni in ka hria. Mahni duhzawng lai lai leh zawm nuam kan tih lai lai kan la Vung a, chuti chuan Kohran thar tam tak an rawn piang chhuak ta a. I ring a i zawm duh a nih chuan a vai in zawm law law rawh, a nih loh chuan zawmlo law law rawh. Ka ngaih ve dan! Thu duh lai bik lak vung vak chi pawh a nilo. A nazawng a Bible rawn rawlh ziah pawh hi a ni hran chuanglo. Bible hmang a thiam in chan chawptir tum pawh hi a nilo. Bible a mahni dikna lai zawn pawh hi a nilo. Bible i chhiar hnem vang khan Vanram kai phah na pawh a ni chuanglo, Vawi Sawmnga pawh chhiar chhuak mah la i zawm si loh chuan.
    H.Vangchhia ka rawn sawina pawh ni chuanglo in ka rawn Genaralize a nih kha. Thil ho mai mai a, Bible rawlh sek hi a tul lem lo ka tihna mai a ni e.

  10. 10
    bembem Says:

    Kan sawilai hi chu ho hlei nem…lolz

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    Aryan Says:

    An sawi dan chuan Isua pawh kha mawngkawhur ani an ti. Tlangval a pui pa nula a hnimhnai ngai lo, A tlangval pui te nen chauh a khawsa thin, mipa dang te nen an in kiss thin, an in pawm a, an mal chungah lu nghatin an mu vel thin, a thian te a hmangaih zia a sawi chamchi, Johana nen phei chuan an in ngaizawng ni awm takin a in ziak, Kross a an khen beh dawn khan Isua’n anu leh mipa pakhat a hmangaih em em a hmu tih te ani.

    I awih em?

    hei chhiar zau teh u https://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jegay.htm

  12. 12
    zrm-a Says:

    Nikum Columbia University(USA) a Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thusawi “In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like in your country, In Iran we do not have this phenomenon”

  13. 13
    Liansiama Says:

    From https://www.GotQuestions.org
    Is it possible to be a gay Christian? If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who struggles against homosexual desires and temptations – yes, a “gay Christian” is possible. However, the description “gay Christian” is not accurate for such a person, since he/she does not desire to be gay, and is struggling against the temptations. Such a person is not a “gay Christian,” but rather is simply a struggling Christian, just as there are Christians who struggle with fornication, lying, and stealing. If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly lives a homosexual lifestyle – no, it is not possible for such a person to truly be a Christian.

  14. 14
    feeder Says:

    mawngkawhur ho hi kan society a kan admit dawn anih pawhin Bible chuan englai mah in a admit ngai lovang tih hre tel ila, a sim te chu englai pawhin Isuan a ngaidam thei thung.

  15. 15
    nell_maiden Says:

    “Pathian lehkhabu thianghlim kan tih Holy Bible ah hian Pathian hian sual chitin reng zing a a curse tak meuh ka hmuh chhun chu mawngkawhurna chiah hi a ni awm e.”

    Gay defend chu ka tum hauhlo…mahse helai thu tak erawh hi chu a dik hlel deuhin ka hria…
    Ka lo tawnhriat dan chuan Pathian in a sual zawnga a huat ber chu Thupeksawm (thusawmpek??) ah a sawi kha.

    Exod 20, ah ” Keimah lo chu Pathian dang i nei tur a nilo………kei Pathian hi Pathian thikthuchhia..pate khawlohna avanga hrem thin..min hawtute chu chhuan 3na leh chhuan lina thleng a hrem thin mi ka ni” tiin a ziah kha…
    Kan Pathian hian Ama thu hi a duh bawk a..Amah aia engpawh kan lo dah pawimawh kha a haw ber ringawt a ni..Heta a hremnna sawi hi a namailo..
    Gay, aienthiamna, uirena etc te chu an sual kha anmahnia a hrem a a tawp mai..Amah phatsana Pathian dang nei te erawh chu…an thlahte nen lam a ni a hrem thin ni…

    Hmanlai Israel lalte chanchin ah khan a hriat khawp mai…Pathianina hnam anga a hremna reng reng leh a huat ber kha chu..Pathian dang an va biak kha a ni..
    Tunlai hunah chuan..Milem ban sawm nei hma ah kan kun kherlo maithei…
    Mahse sum leh pai, emaw..khawvel ropuina avanga Amah kan theihngilh kha a huat ber chu a ni mai laawmni??

    Topic ah lut leh ta ila….lut leh lo zawk teh ang,,.Pherh ho khan nuam an rawn ti leh lutuk palh ange

    :P

  16. 16
    dakul_sphinx Says:

    Hun hnuhnung anih tawh zia chua hei MISUAL ah poh..alo lang ve zel mai…

  17. 17
    taia-pa Says:

    A post tu hian a bible rawn tar lan te khi achhiar lemlo aniang a,mawngkawhur chu Pathianin anchhia a lawh(curse) chhun chu a ni loh hi a.sualna asawi zinga pakhat ve mai anih khi a.Aryan chu chhuichhuak nalh khawp mai.keipawh ama ziah ah ka lo ngai a/

  18. 18
    wonderboy Says:

    A post tu leh comment 1 na pe tu te hian google an hman thiam hmel!!! :-)
    A duh chuan a mawngkua chu lo ti hur se, a duh lo in ti hur lo se, tichuan a kawhur leh kawhurlo te hi leng ho suau2 ila te ka tia…. :-)

  19. 19
    bembem Says:

    E khai..hurlo tlang dial dial zawk ang u khai!!!

  20. 20
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Aryan: i point out dawt leh chiah sentence kha chhiar zel la.

  21. 21
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    taia-pa: thurawn (base) nei lovin ka post lo, a dik…article pangai anga post ka ni tlat lo a ni. Thu ka dah te a sual loh nan khang para 2 kha ka copy a ni e. Hriatchian lovah google kan rawn lovin enge kan hman tangkai na vak tur? An thisen mawh an phurh tur a ziahna mi mawngkawhurna chiah hi a ni, ka ti lova, a ni hial awm e ka ti a, a lo ni lo a nih kha. Hial awm e is not equal to A NI. I am not perfect, are you?

    Tin, sawrkar dan ni lovin, Presbyterian Church USA hian gay hi a thlawp lo hrim hrim in ka hria…Gay inneih chu a thlawp lo tih ka hrechiang.

  22. 22
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Enghnam mah hi ka hmusit lova, a vun rawng pawn ka ten ngai lova…mahse, Aryan ang mizia, mi sawisel tur zawng ringawt ang mi hi ka hua… no one is perfect

  23. 23
    NaupangSual Says:

    In thu han khel map map chu pui ve aw.

    Engpawh nise in ngaihtuah ve ngai em? mahni ril a rah te hi straight lo ni lo ta se engtin nge in reaction ni ang. Mihring an nihna a bo chuang si lo.

    Aryan sawi hi ka support tawp. Pu HV pawh rawh hlap tha pap2 khawp mai

  24. 24
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Vanduai thlak takin ka fa te hi gay ta seng chuan, full support pe in ( gay lam ah ni lovin) gay zahthlak zia leh khawvel mi tam zawk hmusit a nih mai bak ah Pathian in a huat thu tha takin ka hrilh mawlh mawlh anga… a tul leh ka hlap hrep ang :P

    Mahse, gay lo tur chuan a mipa te chu, mipa mawhphurhna te hrilh an ni a, Mizo hnahthlak ngei nupui ah pawh an neih a tul thu leh a chhan hrilh nawn fo an ni. A hmeichhia te pawh, Mizo ngei pasal ah nei hram turin leh ngaihzawng an neih hun ah pawh Mizo ngei ngaihzawn tur melh fo turin fuih an ni.

    Kan naupan laiin naupang pakhat ( kan rualpui) hi sikul ah kan fiam nasat vang niber a ka hriat chu…a len hnu ah a tuai tak2 an ti tlat mai. Hapa cc ah chian ka la inthiam thei thlawt lo, a lo tuai tak tak a nih ngai chuan. Enkawl dan leh an environment (thian kawm ilo) vang te hian an gay theih hi ka ring tlat.

  25. 25
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    wonderboy: google chiang e mawle :D Aryan anga Mr. Know It All ka ni ve lova… thu rawn tur hi Google leh thil dang ah dap a ngai zeuh zeuh fo mai :D

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    3d Says:

    I wouldn’t know whether its a sin or not but homosexuality is not natural unless u consider it as a sort of evolution, which I don’t.

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    skeletonvela13 Says:

    gay gay gay! What about lesbian?

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    Thirkut Says:

    Good point skeletonvela… Pu HV a hi a anti gay viau nang a a anti lesbian em em lo an ti.

  29. 29
    Thirkut Says:

    “Enghnam mah hi ka hmusit lova, a vun rawng pawn ka ten ngai lova” — B.S. (and that doesn’t stand for bachelor of science)

  30. 30
    Aryan Says:

    Wonderboy, Google hman thiam hi tih makmawh asin, kan unviersity ah chuan darkar 1:30 course Google leh University Library search facilities hman dan min zir tir. AND leh OR tih word telh ringawt pawn search result a danglam theih zia te hi i hre ve em? Word type ah search button click ringawt ang kha research beih dawn chuan a hman tlak ve lo. Chuvang chuan a lawm ADVANCED search facilities te khi a awm, hmang tangkai ve teh u, a free leh nghal.

  31. 31
    Mr90000dollarPastor Says:

    Just what the Mizo community needs. Another fact-challenged gay-basher who knows less about the Bible than he knows about being gay. Although Pu H.Vangchhia seems to spend a lot of time thinking about being gay. Hmmm…

    OK, tough guy. Do you eat pork? Shellfish? Shrimp? Do you cut your hair? Do you wear poly-cotton blend shirts?

    Congratulations. Pu H.Vangchhia is THE SAME AS A GAY MAN!

    Try reading ALL of Leviticus (11:7, 11:10-12, 19:27, instead of just one passage.

    Or try reading this:

    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgement you judge, you will be judged; and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you” (Matthew 7:1-2).

  32. 32
    keimah Says:

    @M…Pastor, Even if you read ALL Leviticus, or ALL the Bible for that matter, I don’t think you will find any verse where God condones homosexuality!

    Engtizawng pawhin sawi tamin sawi thiam kual vel mah ila, Mawngkawhurna hi chu Bible zirtirna atang chuan SUAL a ni hrim hrim! Anmahni mawngkawhur (mihring) te kha erawh chu huat leh hmusit tur an ni lo va, an nihna ang anga accept phawt an ngai. Chumi hnuah hmangaih leh dawh thei takin kawng dik kawhhmuh tur an ni zawk.

  33. 33
    keimah Says:

    Tak a, HV, I thil post thupuia i Mizo tawng hman hi a dik lo…”..i thlir ila” ti lovin “…i thlir ang u” tih emaw, “lo thlir ila” tih ni ta se a dik hmel. “i” dah reng reng chuan “ila” tihin a zawm ngai lo..off topic deuh!

  34. 34
    redrose Says:

    Bible hi a ngau ngau a kan la zawma, kan la lak dawn chuan Muslim ho an deuh in hmeichhia te pawh hian lukhum la khum fir fer tur ania, Eng eng emo kan practice tawh lem loh hi a awm nual a, Gay leh Lesbian ho pawh hi han hmuhsit ngot a, han khap bur rigot poh hian an awmdan kha a nih ve miau chuan kei chu an khawngaihthlak ka ti a, mahse chapo tak mai a, an vak vel erawh chu tha ka ti chuang lo a, mizoram ah hian lesbian in nei hi an tam mai a, kan tette lai a tang tawh khan, a inti mipa zawk hi an awm a, kan tha en ve mai a, original deuh hi an awm bik a, Hmeichhia hian gay an deuh Tuai kan tih ang hi kan accept viau a, thian ah te kan kawm a, Mipa ho hian an hmusit duh khop mai a, chhaih leh ti nawmnah an ching a, chutih rual chuan lo pawl a, lo ti khawloh an ching leh tho si a. chuvang chuan kan khawvel hi a danglam tawh a, mi awmdan control lo tum chiam ai chuan, Lal Isua lo kal leh hi a hnai tawh a, mahni ah hian chiang i la, buaina siam lo leh in sawisel em em lo hian, an duh a nih chuan tha en mai ila tha berin ka hria.

  35. 35
    kaya Says:

    GAY DRY CLEANER kha a lo fuh ber a nih kha

  36. 36
    kaya Says:

    Mawngkaw hur kher hi chu a….. hmelhriat tan pawn chiloh. Min zut ang.. ui ui ui

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    3avala Says:

    Aryan, H. Vangchhia leh insual rawh u, kan lo thlir ang che u tu nge chak zawk …. Kan topic kan tuihnih ve loks - Gayho hi genetic variations avang a lo gay ta an ni a, out of choice a ni leu. An gay reng a vangin an sual ani mai lo bawk, gay a siamtu a sual zawk kan ti thei ang. chu mi a vang chuan thiamlo chantir in misual hrem tlak rengah ngai lo i la a thra ang. Gay hur sual te hi an tenawma nimahsela as a whole in gayho anga mihring sensitive leh innocent a lo piang chhuak hi an awm leu. The almighty judges our thoughts rather than our physical appearances. Gayho aiin Pathian mithmua kan sual zawk daih thei a sin, puuuts. Dik em? Kan vawi chu maw le.Tin, gay zawng2 hi MK an ni lo bawk. he hehe Aryana chuan min support ngawt ang….

  38. 38
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    keimah: a lo ni maw…min correct zel dawn nia, ka lawm e. In sawisel hrep lova thudik min hrilh hi, lawm takin ka pawm e. :D teh duah em :)

  39. 39
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    thirkut hian a sawidik ka nihna khi …kawmen 28.

    Mr9000rupiapastor: Min hrelo hle mai…

    3avala: an gay na kha Pathian ah chuan sual a ni der.

  40. 40
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    regarding comment 39: kalo chhiar chiang lo a ni… thirkut hian a sawidik leh lo :P a chiang chiah lo a ni e :D

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    keimah Says:

    @3avala, Medical lam atang chuan gay gene hi a awm tih reng ka hre lo! Genetic thil a nih chuan gay hi inthlahchhawn awl tak a ni bawk ang a, tichuan gay chuan gay thlah a nei fur tur a ni ang chu! Mahse, amah ber a gay tlat chuan (lesbian pawh), engtinnge fa a neih tak ang??? Genetic variation vang tih vel hi chu thu belhchian dawl lo mai mai niin a lang.

  42. 42
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Mawngkawhur ho hi chu…vaw hrep sela, an te/authawm pa taka an auchhuah hma chu hlap char2 se an tha mai ang. Ngaihzam chi a nilo….pawmzam chi pawh a ni heklo… Mizo tlemte zinga mawngkawhur hmuh tur leh zaklo tak tak pun chakzia hi…fiam a…chhaih vel lovin, a tenawmzia hrilh pahin, mipa an nih hriatnawn tir fo a tha in ka ring. A thu hrim ah Mizo te chu mipa fa an pian in, chempui an hum tir thin a, ral lu la thei tur/pasal tha tur atan a bless na a ni… chung ho thlah kal chhawng rei lote chhunga hetiang tak maia, mawngkawhur kan pung hi kan hnamzia nen pawh a in mil lo reng reng. mawngkawhur, kal zaw zaw..mipa leh hmeichhe in kar a awm ho… Tribal zang nei uai ve tho ho hi a tha zawng pawn a chhe zawng pawn sim tir an ngai.

  43. 43
    Aryan Says:

    genetic thil hi in thlahchhawn kher ani la, cancer te hi genetic abnormailities ani tih i hria em? Cancer tam zawk hi in thlachchhawn vang ani lo!

    Vangchhia says “an gay na kha Pathian ah chuan sual a ni der”

    Gay puithiam/pastor an tam ropui sia pathian ah chuan misual anni ta der ani maw? Bible chuan sex hman zawk kha sual ati ani in ka hre sia, I Leveticus rawn thlan chhuah a tang kha chuan.

    Chuan, hei in kohhran PC of USA view te hi han chhiar ve teh

    @ celibate homosexuals and bisexuals are not barred from consideration for ordination.

    https://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_pru22.htm

    In kohhran ngei pawn mawngkawhur ho chu Pastor atan pawh nemhngeh a phal tihna anih chu, sex an hman loh chuan!

    Titau la, in pawl chhuahsan nghal rawh. Chuan he Kohhran hi i zawm dawnnia https://www.godhatesfags.com/ an lar lutuk, Foxnews ah pawh an rawn kawm thin. 9/11 te Tsunami te, China lirnghing te , US Sipai Iraq leh Afghanistan a thi te kha mawngkawhur ho vang vek ani an ti! :mrgreen:

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    ThaiBoy Says:

    Mizoramah mawngkawhur hi tlemte an ni mawngkaw hur lo hur ve hrim hrim an buaipui aawm fe zawk.

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    H.Vangchhia Says:

    https://www.religionlink.org/tip_060605.php in a sawi dan chuan.

    PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH (U.S.A.)

    The Book of Order of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) currently requires that ministers — including elders and deacons, who must also be ordained — adhere to “fidelity within the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman or chastity in singleness.” In effect that means no sexually active gays or lesbians, even those in a committed relationship.

    The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) (June 15-22) will meet in Birmingham, Ala. The biennial conference of the 2.4 million-member church’s legislative body will take up a new proposal on gay ordination that was five years in development. The so-called “third way” strategy would retain the PCUSA’s current rules against ordaining noncelibate gays and lesbians, but under its provisions local churches could ordain gays and lesbians under some circumstances. The proposal has drawn fire from both sides, and its prospects are uncertain. Under Presbyterian governance, regional presbyteries ordain ministers while local churches ordain deacons and elders.

    Lo pawm ta pawh nise, ka mihring mihrin na chuan… member hlauh an hlauhthawn/duh loh vang mai ah ka ngai tho tho ang. Kan biakin ah chuan gay inneih an pawm lo bur tih hi an puang fo.

  46. 46
    Aryan Says:

    I post chuan ka sawi a rawn thlawp chat reng ani. In kohhran PC of USA ngeiin Gay leh Bisexual (an celibate phawt chuan) pastor a tan a phal, nang chuan gay hrim hrim kha (sex an hmang emaw hmang lo emaw) pathian hmuh a sual rapthlak ber, ngaih dam theih loh tihhlum ngei ngei tur ni awmin i rawn sawi.

  47. 47
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    First para, last sentence kha i en em? Sual ah, thlarauthianghlim sawichhiat chiah hi Pathian in a ngaidam theilo…Lal Isua Krista sawi hmang chuan. I mawngkua a lo hur ve a nih ngai chuan sim nghal rawh Repent and you shall be forgiven :D

  48. 48
    Aryan Says:

    Aw en e, gay leh bisexuals, sexually active chauh an khap. Mawngkawhur ni si, mipa dang nena sex hmang lemlo ho kha a khap ve lo. Ka mawng chu a kaw hur mai, ka ek tum a lian lutuk a. I en chak em?

  49. 49
    wonderboy Says:

    Ehh! Aryan, i ek tum a len chuan nupui atan i that viau don chu a!! :-) (fiamthu auh) :-)

  50. 50
    Ugly Says:

    Aryan pawh hi kal zaw zaw, trawng zawt zawt, insual dawna tlanchhe zei zuai, vuak pa ngai chi anih hmel hi mawle.

  1. 51
    Aryan Says:

    Nia, rultuha, i hming thar Ugly chu i put zawh hmel. I rultuha hming lah chu i rawn hmang ngam ta silova :mrgreen:

  2. 52
    Ugly Says:

    rultuha chu tunge anih pawh ka hre nek love.Amah(rultuha) in keimah nih a duhlo ang bawkin keipon ka duhlo.I google adv search trangin i lo va zawngchhuak leh dim diam tawh elo,Aryan?Tun t(r)um chu i fing sual ta mah mah e,ektumlianpa.

  3. 53
    Aryan Says:

    A ha ha, bui chhia laih lovin a inpuang an tih ang deuh i ni e, hai rual i nilo, eng angin inthup tum mah la! ka ektum lianpui hi sausage angin ei hmuah hmuah mai lah, tui i ti awm reuh :D

  4. 54
    Ugly Says:

    Engvanga rultuha ka nih pawh chu ring ve ngawt nge maw i nih le?I chhutchhuak mawi lem lo khawp mai.Gay ektum chu ei lo phawt mai ang.Ka lawm e.

  5. 55
    Ugly Says:

    Ugly ≠ rultuha, mai mai sala.

  6. 56
    Aryan Says:

    i nih reng kha, vangchhia te thenawm maia awm i nih kha! CM in nuaih 300 man contract min pe a , te i ti vela, kan EXPOSE che ah ha ha, i reh deuh vang vang a, Ugly hmingin i rawn in rawlh leh ta zoh zoh mai. Ka ek kha lo ei ve mai mai teh. I sushi siam aiin a tui i tih ka ring tlat ani.

  7. 57
    Wish_Bone Says:

    Ugly and Aryan enough. Yuck yuck!!! So Gross. Uak!!

  8. 58
    Ugly Says:

    Mipa in “nilo” kan ti chuan nilo ani mai.Nangni Gay ho “nilo” ang kha kan ni ve leuh.Nuai 300 e 300 lo e,chutiang ka hre ve leuh.”Gay ka nilo” pawh i tih fak ngam loh hi!!

  9. 59
    wonderboy Says:

    Thenawm leh kawmthlang te thleng2 in a lo in google chhuah thei a ni maw!! Baabreee!! :-)

  10. 60
    Ugly Says:

    Hahaha @ wonderboy.Nih duh hmel khawp mai.Australia ah chuan an changkang khawp.

  11. 61
    Aryan Says:

    Mipa i nih loh tawp kha, anih loh chuan Mipa MARGARET tih hming nei chhun i nih ka ring Khiangte. I pherh zawk ani lo maw?

  12. 62
    Ugly Says:

    Hmeichhe hnial ka ang em mai duhtawk teh ang.BTW Aryan, ka pherh lo e(Nang angin).Thank God for that.

  13. 63
    Aryan Says:

    Expose nge nge chuan ngawi leh dak mai rawh, account dang va siam leh la, Aryan hi a pherh e, i rawn ti leh dawn nia. :mrgreen:

  14. 64
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Tribal kawhte nei chin hi chu, mipa ang hian i khawsa phawt mai ila a tha mai….. intih nu tum pawn…chi loh lutuk, kan sakhmel hi a rumra em mai… khabehruh lian hlawm si..lu lian puipui, ka zungpui chhuihnat hmel fu hlawm bawk si… chawn ping puar lo ho lah hi a sin kual khanglang hlawm lawi a… mawng lah a dep pir per bawk si..a dep mai a ni nang..a la fual pur zui mawle…midum kekawr hak ang te khan lo ha fual ve lul suh u… kaihza ah mawngtam a awm tep tawh nak alaiin, a zialo lutuk ang. Mipa chu mipa angin khawsa ila, hmeichhia pawh nu hnap maise, a tha ber mai.

    Hmeichhia te nui hmel hmuh hian khawvel awm an ti nuam a, mawngkawhur hmuh erawh hi chuan invuak chakna a lo lang thin :D

  15. 65
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    ke zungpui*

  16. 66
    Ugly Says:

    Ngawi leh lo mai ang.Chu maw Aryan, invuak chakna i tih lan chu!rultuha anga min chhui fuh lohna chu i la na hle mai maw!! A/C dang chu hnai lo e.”Aryan hi a pherh e” chu ka la ti ngai lo nang a, i thusawi dan di de trang hian mawngkawhur lukhum chu i inhmeh khawp ang.

  17. 67
    Aryan Says:

    han pha trang trang teh, sawive tur hre lo kha chuan Aryan hi rawn target deuh chat mai la , ka expose che kha i la na hle ni tur ani. Lo in sawi theih ve tawh nak alai a, midangin CM zemzen anih hi an rawn tih hman tawh nak a laia rawn puang khawl mai kha chu, kar hnih vel misual atangin leave i la vang vang ani lawm ni kha? Mawngkawhur lukhum te in nei bik alo maryland ah chuan?

  18. 68
    Ugly Says:

    I comment a gay i tran dan trangin gay i nih duh hmel ka ti mai ani e.CM zemzen,nuai 300, karhnih misual leave tih vel ang khi chu nang leh rultuha inkar ani e.Maryland ah chuan Mawngkawhur lukhum an neih leh neih loh ka hre lo.India ram hi ka la chhuah san ve tlat lo le.

  19. 69
    Aryan Says:

    Gay ka tran hranpa lo, mahse nangni ang mimawl khawhawi zim bible chang 1 atanga midang judge tum han dah nil hmaks hmaks kha anuam em ani e. I in sawi ang chiah in rultuha pawh khan Mizorama awm, mizo hnam hmangaih, Cm zem zen anih kha, nangpawn i rawn repeat ve leh chat kha , lamthiam thread ah khan. in thup ting tang lo mai rawh. Mr. margaret.

  20. 70
    kanidar Says:

    hmnn, ugly hi rultuha ka tihna ni lovin, tunhnai deuh atang khan misual ah hian nick dang hmanga topic post / comment kan ching thar deuh in ka hria, a pawina a awm lem lo na chu, a double standard thlak deuh em aw, te ka tia….. vantlanga kan nihna thup kan duh vanga nick hmang deuh vek chu kan ni a, thup tawh hnua thup leh chhawn kha chu a dawihzep thlak deuh em aw, te ka tia(h)…. tul lem lovah chuan mi inthup ve te te lo puan pawh hi a tha lem lo chuan ka hre ve..

  21. 71
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Ka post leh ka real life mizia hi same same…. engmah ka thup ve ngai lemlo, ka vei chin hi chu real life a ka sawichhuah ngam tur leh tih ngam tur ka post/comment thin tlangpui.

  22. 72
    Ugly Says:

    Aw aw aw.Min la hmelbel zel mai.Mimawl chu nangmah ngei hi i lo ni hi.rultuha hrechiangtu te khan va zawt chiang vat teh u khawngaihin.

    @kanidar: min tihna kher ni/nilo mahse Aryan hian min puanna pakhat mah ka hre lo tlat mai.

  23. 73
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Ka post leh ka real life mizia hi same same…. engmah ka thup ve ngai lemlo, ka vei chin hi chu real life a ka sawichhuah ngam tur leh tih ngam tur ka post/comment thin tlangpui, kalo la sawi chhuaklo te a nih thin pawn…tlem a zawng… hairehai…. fiamthu duh tak, tih thinrim tak tak theih meuhlo ka ni e…. confession of me :P ka thinrim pawn..tumah kutthlak ka duh tawh lo… if i can help it…. thosi leh tho lakah te tih lovah chuan :P

  24. 74
    kanidar Says:

    keichu ka real life leh ka thil post hi a inang zeuh zeuh :-) haha… misual ah hian ka comment serious zeuh zeuh bawk :-) real life a ka ho(h) theih loh vang a nia nge…

  25. 75
    Ugly Says:

    @Aryan “lamthiam” lam zaw zaw kha chu ka lo dl ve ngei kha mawle.comments erawh ka chhiar lo tlat.khawngaihin link min lo pe ta che.

  26. 76
    ThaiBoy Says:

    Kei chu ka ho; thupui ka fun lemlo.

  27. 77
    Aryan Says:

    US presidential campaign ang deuh hian a loser ho hi chuan hnial hneh loh chuan personal attack leh character assasination ah hian an truan nge nge thin a lawm. Midang attack hrim hrim nana account siam vel kha a, a PHERH zia ka ti tlat Rultuha/ugly

    Eng topic pawh rawn thawh ula, minute 5 chhungin ka stance ka siam fel nghal thei. In tran loh lampang apiang kha keichuan ka tran ka tih tawh kha. I am here to agree to disagree, to argue and to debate. If you wanna get dirty, i’m all for it. :mrgreen:

    Anyways, i’ve done my assignment, all ready for the end of the semester. I’ll be back with a bang tomorrow G’night.

  28. 78
    Ugly Says:

    A lo nih ze zaw chu!!

  29. 79
    ThaiBoy Says:

    (misual) ho hi ka hriat chin chu; sumdawnna leh zirna ah pawh, pa hlawhtling leh zahawm tak tak leh nu fel tak takte an tam mai, hoh deuh chang chu awm thin mahse public forum a kan thil sawi ah hian fimkhur ngai ka ti thin. mimal hming kan lam phei hi chuan fimkhur hi athra khawp mai,kan khawvel hi a zim tawh em mai.

  30. 80
    Wish_Bone Says:

    Ugly tang fan fan. Aryan tawnah i dawl zawr dawn maw? Ngaihnawm phian. A thuhrimah chu a valo hre chiang awm em em che ve. hahaha. Beer vawt ruih in inhnial hi ngaihnawm duh a lo nih hi. Nuam singkhawww. Han inhnial zel teh u’n.

  31. 81
    wonderboy Says:

    @wish_bone weekdays zan (?) ah te chuan beer vawt ruih lo e a!! An in hnial tawp hma a chahthlak dai in kan khaw har luttuk ang..!! Hei tunah tak hian pu h.v te khua ah chuan chhun 1:30 vel a nia australia ah chuan 3:30 pm a ni ta daih…la in hnial zel turah ngai phawt ila la meng dak lawp2 mai ang hmiang! :-)

  32. 82
    Ugly Says:

    Min hrelo lutuk, hria anga lan tum, min hmehbela ber ka ni leh si lo tih a hriat chhuah vangin anuam tih zawng a rawn sawi ta vel mai mai anih kha.Nep sazu em mai.Beer vawt chu va tui awm ve.Foster(Austalian beer) ani deuh kher lo maw? :) .Kan khua ah chuan dar 11:20pm ani.

  33. 83
    sekibuhchhuak Says:

    Helai chu a phek alo va thui tawh deuh ve ! Kan mi un pahnih Aryan leh pu Hv ate an han chet meuh chuan, a bengvarthlak hle mai :)

    Kan sawi fo tawh thin a, thil thar dang vak sawi tur ka hre lemlo. Homosexsuality hi chu SUAL ani ngei a, mahse, hei chauh hi sual ani lo tih pawh kan hriat vek kha! Hetianga sex hmang dik lohna a ka ’sual’ loh avang ngawt hian, heti lama lo ’sual’ ta te hmuhsit ngawt tur pawh ani love.

    Hriatsa hi kan sawi leh mai ange. Piantirh atang tuai / patil pawn piangin emaw, homosexsuality desire hi nei tho mahse, homesexsual / lesbian kher lo hian a awm theih (dispositionally homosexual) same sex a, sex hmang kher lo khan. Kristian tha tak anih theih bawk.Henry Nown (nown hi a spelling adik em ka hre chiah lo) Havard University a Physcology Proffessor thin pawh kha ‘dispositionally homosexsual’ ani. Mahse,he sual ah hian a tlu ngai lo.Kristian tha tak ani.

  34. 84
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    seki: Kristian tha tak homosexual a awm theih dawn em ni le… te ka ti mai mai a…

  35. 85
    Naupang^Fel Says:

    Nep thei the the… Mi sawi chhiat leh mahni infakna web site a ang sawt khawp mai misual.com hi..zet zawt hlawm mai!

  36. 86
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Sawi tur i hriat loh chuan lo ngawi mai mai teh…. Ugly kha amoody viau ania :D

  37. 87
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Tunge mahni in fak…het sala teriama… yuk yuk

  38. 88
    Ugly Says:

    Moody lah lo e le, ka pu le!!

  39. 89
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    oops :D sorry

  40. 90
    Thirkut Says:

    Misual.com has gone to the dogs.

  41. 91
    keimah Says:

    Bauh! Bauh !! Bauh!!!!

  42. 92
    3avala Says:

    Ui aaaa alo bauh ve chhen … thla mah ?

  43. 93
    Mr90000dollarPastor Says:

    H.Vangchhia is wrong again.

    I do know you, Pu H.Vangchhia, and I have seen with my own eyes as you have committed acts of wearing poly/cotton blended clothes and you have shamefully indulge in the shaved lifestyle, even though both contradicts God’s Holy Word in the Bible. Right?

    Leviticus 19:19 “you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.”

    Leviticus 19:27 “You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.”

    Here’s where you fail, Pu H.Vangchhia. You read the Bible SELECTIVELY.

    You indulge in the strictest LITERALISM when Bible passages look convenient for persecuting the weak and defenseless minorities like gays.

    But your literalism FAILS utterly when Bible passages make it look like YOU are the guilty party.

    Why do you you IGNORE God’s Law? You are just as guilty of violating God’s Law as you think homosexuals are (in your interpretation).

    This goes for keimah, too. Unless you have long hair and beards, and unless you do not wear any mixed fabric clothes, Pu H.Vangchhia and keimah are THE SAME AS HOMOSEXUALS!

    And even if you both are hairy, bushy-bearded, all-cotton wearing Mizos, you are STILL GUILTY (by your own words) because you “approve of those who do such things” when you CONDONE a church full of shaved, poly/cotton sinners.

  44. 94
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Mr90000dollarPastor : Weashedu anna Muhammed resul Allah ti mai teh a.

  45. 95
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    keinin,” weashedu anna Yesuah Al Messeh ebnu Allah,” kan tih laiin. :P

  46. 96
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    I don’t read Bible selectively… i just pick out the chapter and verses of what my subjects was about… and i just can’t put down all the books from the Bible out here anyways, Mr. Clean :P

  47. 97
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    chapters* subject*

  48. 98
    Mr90000dollarPastor Says:

    Pu H.Vangchhia,

    You claim that homosexuals violate Leviticus 20:13.

    But I say unto you, why are you violating God’s Law against harming the edges of your beard?
    (Leviticus 19:27)

    Why are you violating God’s Law against wearing mixed fabrics?
    (Leviticus 19:19)

    As you say, “you can’t love someone without warning them when they are in great and grave danger.”

    While you continue to violate God’s Laws every day, Pu H.Vangchhia is EXACTLY THE SAME AS A HOMOSEXUAL.

  49. 99
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Mirhing kan ni miau maia, Pathian duhloh zawng in nia, kan awm fo nitin a ni. Mahse, getiang hun atan hian alawm tawngtaina nen kan sual tih thin te ti tawh lo tura emaw, ti lo ngam tawh thin tura chakna kan dil thin. Mihring kan ni a kan phak tawk thlemna kan tawng reng dawn mahse, Pathian chakna ringin kan do thei thin a ni. Mawngkawhur lam leh kal zaw zaw ho hian Pathian chakna dil in, sim an tum ve tak2 ngai em ka hre law…ka sawi phak pawh a nilo. An dil a an tum chuan thil lawmawm a ni. A nih loh chuan, kan pastor hmuihmul nei lawm-a ang deuh hian an la phi buai ngei ang.

  50. 100
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Mr90000dollarPastor: truely truely, i say unto you…. do not judge me for you are mere homo sapien. And you know not if i communicate with the Lord everyday or not. Judge thyself and look deep inside yourself and see who you are and see if thou art truely worthy of the Kingdom of God.

    I old English hman ka rawn copy a che… lal inti hre pa :P

  51. 101
    Mr90000dollarPastor Says:

    Pu H.Vangchhia begs for tolerance and understanding for his sinful lifestyle.

    H.Vangchhia “do not judge me for you are mere homo sapien”

    LOL! Pu H.Vangchhia is now saying what all gay people say to self-righteous, judgmental people like Pu H.Vangchhia.

    Gay people tell far-right Christians, ‘do not judge me because you are human too’. Now Pu H.Vangchhia wants the same compassion from me that gay people want from right-wing, non-compassionate Christians.

    Do you realize, Pu H.Vangchhia, that once again you are acting just like a gay person?

  52. 102
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    I zawngrang tawnga thil sawi hi vawkchaw tluk ah pawh ka ngai love. Lo iak ve chhen teh suh…

  53. 103
    Mr90000dollarPastor Says:

    Tha khawp mai kan subject khel mek lai “Pathian dan bawhchhiat chungchang” atanga tawng hman chunchanga i pakai daih hi.

    Back to the real subject that you brought up.

    H.Vangchhia is living a sinful lifestyle just like homosexuals (Leviticus 18:22) because every day he violates God’s Laws against harming the edges of his beard (Leviticus 19:27) and God’s Laws against wearing clothes made from mixed fabrics (Leviticus 19:19).

    How do you justify such hypocrisy?

    Will you stop shaving and only clothes made of one kind of fabric? Or will you apologize to all homosexuals and stop persecuting them?

  54. 104
    Borat Says:

    Delhi High Court legalises gay sex

  55. 105
    Borat Says:

    That makes India looks more civilised

  56. 106
    Mack Daddy Says:

    God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

  57. 107
    Sihtea Says:

    Mawngkawhur simlo ten vanram an kai a nih ngat chuan, vanram a tangin,
    hremhmunah ka zuangthla ang. Heng mawngkawhur ho lah hian,
    Kan Lalpa Isua meuh pawh, an mahni ang zi zangah an chhuah fo leh nghalh a. An mawngkua ah hmar cha rawng fawng hawlh luh sak hial
    a ni’a, ka duh ni.

  58. 108
    zualbonez Says:

    HV…mawngkawhur engzat nge i convert tawh -from 2008 to now..LOL :-P

  59. 109
    malsta27 Says:

    Hahahaha Pu HV a chu mawngkawhur convert ang te’n an lo chhuah der mai ni maw? tu tak chu mawngkawhru chu ni ang maw? kei chu ka ni lo phawt mai ah, mi thenkhat mawngkawhur ah te ni miah lo hi an lo chhuah ringawt te hi ni zawk ang a :-D (H) (H) :-D .

  60. 110
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    :-)

  61. 111
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    zualbonez, #108 an awm lo tawp ang hahahha, mahse pawilo, an ngei turah ka awm ve reng reng pawh kha a tha alawm. Ka kiang hnaiah hian an tlangnel theihna vak loh tur hian awm zel ila a tha mai.

    Mizoram chhungah phei hi chuan sairawkherh a perh eu zawk zawk mai turah ka ngai (Y)

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