One Florence from Maryland in her article “KAN HMING ZIAH DAN HI” at zawlbuk.net suggests we adopt better way of writing our legal/official (wateva you call it) names which for most of us would be the way we write it at the time filling HSLC application form because –
Computerised forms require that we fill in
* First name
* Middle name
* Lastname
She writes that a person with single name Zonuntluanga would face problems once he steps out of Mizoram because he’s got only one part in his name. She seems to be thinking it is always necessary to fill all the fields. Most forms make middle name optional. I haven’t seen one which asks you to fill all and I would never wish to! I insist that even last name be made optional. Anyway, I think every one (Mizo) these days keep two parts when we fill HSLC exam application form.
God knows he could be Zonuntluanga Khiangte 
Look at point 2
Kan Mizo hming mawi tak diklo leh awmze nei lova an lam/chhuah ai chuan mitin tan lam awlsam tur hming kan neih mai hi a thain remchan zawkna tamtak a awm.
Anybody here to follow the footsteps of M. Night Shyamalan who changed his name from Manoj Nelliattu Shyamalan?
Mizoramah hi chuan computerize a thil han tih dawn pawhin kan hming ziah duh dante hi a inang lo nuai mai a, thil tih a harsa khawp mai . . .
Does their software requires that everyone has last name? Are we gonna change our names because of software?
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August 17th, 2006 at 8:23 pm
Hemi Hming ziah chung chang hi chu ngaihtuah ngun chu a ngai khawpin ka hria. Eng enge maw Form han fill up hian engtin nge kan Fill up thin le?? Heihi Ramdanga awm tan a bik takin a pawimawh zualin ka hria. Entir na ka passport apply lai 1998 vel kha ni ta in ka hria.
First Name : Lal
Middle Name : Chhanhimi
Last Name : Bawitlung tiin ka fillup a, Mahse ka Passport a rawn chhuah khan Bawitlung Lalchhanhimi tiin a rawn in chhu daih. Lalchhanhimi Bawitlung rawn tih awm tak a nia ka ti mai mai.
Enge in ngaih ve dan??
Hei hi a pawimawh nasa mai, Ramdangah chuan Hming thlak dawn hian Court ah kala, pawisa chawi a, thlak a ngai hial a ni awm e.
Bawitlung tiin min ko ta ziah thin a, Tunhma a ka tu vakmah hriat loh ka Sap hming ka sawi chhuah phah ta ringawt. Chi loh rap.
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August 17th, 2006 at 8:31 pm
Last name an dah hmasa a nih kha. Keipawh thenkhatah chuan . ka pa hming te an lo dah ve ringawt, ka dah tel ngai miah si lova. Pan Card ah a niin ka hria.
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August 17th, 2006 at 8:32 pm
Nih loh pawn.. somewhere in their system they switch it.
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:39 am
I actually agree with the article here, at least the part about being more careful about how we write our names. I’ve faced this problem countless number of times because I use a single (one-word) name. It’s ok to use a single, ueber-long name if you’re never going outside Mizoram. But that should be a very rare case for most people these days.
When you write your name “in Mizo” use a single name, no problem. But when you write “in English” (which IS different, despite using the same alphabets), it’s a sensible thing to break it up, e.g.:
Mizo: Vanlalmalsawmdawngliani
Eng: Vaanlal Malsaum Donglyiani
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:43 am
Or, for the English version:
Vaanlalmalsaum Donglyiani
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:03 am
One can always write family name. I would curse the system that expects you to fill in 2/3 parts of a name.
– benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:07 am
Yeah. If you use a family name that’s ok. But not everyone uses a family name. You have a lot of cursing to do, unfortunately.
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:27 am
You have a lot of cursing to do, unfortunately.
– As a computer person i know that it is possible to have a system where you don’t need to have all parts of names filled.
In a database, there is a certain field called PRIMARY KEY which has to be unique. You can never use names as PRIMARY KEY. Even combination of the names.
Which is why if you are going to design a database for a school you would use roll no or similar as PRIMARY KEY and not names!!!!
There is no need to make field for parts of name NOT NULL which means that it cannot have empty value.
Unfortunately, those ppl who design the forms don’t care that there are also ppl in the world with only 2 or 1 part in their name.
read this
http://en.shunya.in/users/enem.....rticle=173
– benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:36 am
ppl are taking about customizing software to suit regional language and our fellow Mizo from the United States is suggesting we do something about the way we write our name because of computer. I don’t buy it.
– benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:43 am
Also, I would have commented in zawlbuk.net if they enable guest comment. And so would many other.
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:44 am
I guess there will never be a concensus on this matter… don’t expect it. Since we are faced with a system that is alien to us… the solution is to adapt….. How? My suggestion is—
1. Start giving your new-born child a three-part MIZO name.
The Clan name as a last name
Eg:
(a)His/Her proper name,
(b)A father’s (or a mother’s or a favourite relative’s name etc as a middle name.
eg- Lalthlamuana Zoramthanga Khiangte
2. Choose carefully a three-part name that is comfortable to you when necessary. You can adopt the above example.
3. If you have a Christian/English name as well as a Mizo name. try something like this.
eg: Robert as first name, Lalduhzuala as a middle name, Khiangte as a last name. so, Robert Lalduhzuala Khiangte.
This is not perfect….i know…. but since this are no standing rules… we can experiment… so let’s have your suggestions.
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:48 am
No, we should fight back the system. Their flawed system. Every person has every right in the world to have one single name. And I believe most of us have two these days. I can’t think of a person I know who writes single name.
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:55 am
I never have a problem with two names and I never will. I will fight back if asked.
Here in the South, ppl are so dumb that they expect everyone to have initial! They really piss me off.
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August 18th, 2006 at 4:43 am
Ele,, Bawitlung i lo ni ve reng a ni maw?.. kan hnam hi kan tam vak loh hmel teh reng nen, khawi khawi-ah emaw hian kan lo awm ve leh zel, hriat a nuam e,, chuan maw, Mizoram zaithiam Sp-i pawh khi Bawitlung a nih khi, Bawitlung zaithiam kan neih chhun a nih hmel,, hehehe,, chuan, Mizoram pa sang ber B.Zahluta pawh kha Bawitlung a nih kha,, i lo hriat ve mai mai a tan ka hriat chhun ka lo hrilh ve mai mai che,,
chuan maw, kei mah hi maw, misual.com hlui zawk a, chaw(rice) bel a chhum dan min hrilh a kha ka nih hi, mahse tun thleng hian rice chu ka la chhum fuh thei chuanglo, mahse a pawi lo,,
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August 18th, 2006 at 5:03 am
myself i never had a problem with my name, i used my single name as the first name and my surname(family name) as Last name and i never filled up the middle name even if it was asked,, even in my passport i only have my single name with my surname, thats it,,
so for that, i dont think we(Mizo) need to change the way we write our names,, chuvang chuan Mizo hming chauh nei ve tan chuan kan Family name kha kan Last name atan hmang theuh ila a ni mai,, Mizo kan ni a, chuvang chuan kan hming chu a hlawm in kan ziak tur a ni ka ti ve tlat, hming pakhat, first, middle leh last name a thren hran kher a ngailo, family name kha last name-ah hmang theuh ila, sap hming nei tel in, middle name kha chu filled up ve mai se, a nei ve lo chuan care vak tur pawh a ni lo,,
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August 18th, 2006 at 6:48 am
Benjamin,
Since people are dumb in the south. Why don’t you study in Mizoram. Why do you run to the plains for your education. Please dpon’t get pissed eat your bie and study in Mizoram. Thank you.
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August 18th, 2006 at 6:51 am
Benjamin,
Please go back to Mizoram and work as a Peon in the Government supported by the Central Government.
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August 18th, 2006 at 10:31 am
EnglishName (Saap Hming)-Mizo Name-Clan name.
Its simple man!
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August 18th, 2006 at 11:49 am
Ngati nge Mizo nih vanga hming ziakzawm ngei ngei tur ni a i hriat tlat le aw? Kan pi leh pu te khan hming an ziah ve ngai loh avangin he thilah hian “rules” an nei lo a nia aw…Sap missionary lo kal, Zotawng thiam thathum hlei loin an ziah zawm tir niin ka hria. Ka hre sual maithei. Engpawh nise, “rules” tak tak a awm loh avangin duh dan dana ziah theih a nih hmel.
Tin, middle name hi khawiah mah compulsory a nih ka hre lo.
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
- I did
Good to see ppl with names like you here. One more… Just becuase I have different, they think I am not from the country. Besides that I don’t have a complain. – benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:41 pm
Lulla, besides hearing ppl saying “today night ” .. “What’s your good”.. “I am basically from “also piss me off.
And btw… really glad to have join the discussion.
-benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:42 pm
I mean “What’s your good name?”
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
Why would I?
-benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Nia, middle name hi khawiah mah compulsory tur a ni lo. -benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
What? what do you mean?
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
“May I know/What’s your good name?” “Basically” ” da?/ra?/re?/na?”
“Myself Ashok” – myself hrim2 sentence ah introductory word a hman..ka haw tawp!
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August 18th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
hehe.. tik lai khan nge in lo in hrilh a? – benjamin
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:03 pm
Myself Maimawm… inhmeh khawp alawm!
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Myself BlackWhite a nalh zaawk!
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:16 pm
Coming to Identity.. yea. Lemme give you example. Look at these people
1) Dr Lalthankungi
2) H. Lalrinpuia
3) Vanlalkoha Loitlang
You don’t have the slightest idea that they are from the same family just by their names. Each adopting their own style. They are Hmar so #2 uses H as initial. They are Hmar Loitlang so #3 uses it as his last name.
They are my uncles and aunty. Their parent weren’t that educated to guide them about how they should write their names. And it looks like their teachers didn’t guide them either when they filled up HSLC form. I think teachers too have a big role to play here.
I am hoping the RTZ’s would run misual.com one day
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August 18th, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Buai ve theih deuh a ni… last name neih ve loh chu.. internet leh comp. ah hian.. Last name hi REQUIRED FIELD a ni deuh vek zel a. Ka last name neih ve loh lam an lo ngaihtuah tawh silo a.. i insist tih ngawt pawh a la ni thei lo….
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August 18th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Pian tirh ah Zothantluanga nih a.. certificate leh doc. pawimawh zawng zawng a.. Zothantluanga nih tawh chuan …. buaithlak tak a ni… duh hun hun a Zothan Tluanga han intih leh ngawt chu a dik thei chiah silo..
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August 18th, 2006 at 3:30 pm
I ni e. Ngaihtuah tir an ngai.
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August 18th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Mizo hming ziah chung changah kan Pi leh Pu te khan rules an nei ka tihna a nilo, ka sawi zawk a chu, kan Pi leh Pu te’n ziak leh chhiar an thiam tan tirh atanga an hming lo ziah dan a ni tawh a, chuvang chuan tunah kan Mizo hming ziah dan han thlak leh kher a ngailo ka tihna a ni zawk e,,
anyway, i duh dan dan khan i hming chu ziak mai la tiro, i thu a ni mai a, i duh leh hmun thumah i duh leh hmunli-ah pawh thren hrang mahla a poi hlei nem,, tul leh tha i tih ang khan ziak zel mai la,, lolsss..
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August 18th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
I checked with my aunt how her name’s written in her passport. She got it in the 80′s and already expired. She believe’s it’s just “one”.
I went on to think, what law (as long as India is concerned or even else where) gives the right to insist on two or more names. Going further, is there any article in our constitution which says “Every citizen should have a name”.
Most of us wouldn’t bother/afford to take the trouble to question and challenge “Why should I have two parts in our name”.
Of course, you are gonna end with lots of mess if you don’t have a name
And very soon ppl will give you one!!
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August 18th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
Your aunt’s PASSWORD? heh
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August 18th, 2006 at 7:01 pm
oh! thx. Really curse The Mr Typo in me.
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August 19th, 2006 at 2:39 pm
Bawitlung tihna atan B tiin ka dah tawi mai a.ka hming pangngai kha ka ziak leh mai a, ram pawnah pawh ka buaina ka hre lo. zawhna tlem an zawt ang che ang a, mak an ti deuh ang a, i hrilhfiah ang a….polite takin “a lo nih tak chu!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ” an ti ang a…an nui ang a…..i duh na na ah i kal tawh mai ang. ram pawnah a buaithlak tih vel kha chu a…tuna hming ziahdan in buaipui ai khan in buai nep zawk ang…B.Kappuakdumduma ka inti zel tho ang…buaina ka tawh chuan …i will fight back …good day everyone.
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August 30th, 2006 at 11:18 am
I think .. we are just worried about nothing..
I have just one name.. and I have travelled all over the world with minimal problem…
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