Kross Chanchintha(lo)

April 21st, 2011 12:15 pm by zoho

THUHMA
Good Friday kan tih chu kan lo thleng leh dawn ta a. Sawi tawh ang in Solar Calendar ah hian a ni diktak hi a inher chhuak dikthei tawhlo  va. Mahse, miin a thinlung a Pathian diktak lam a hawina hun a nih chuan, eng ni pawh hi a thavek tho mai si.  Good Friday alo thlen hian, kan mitthla ah Isua thing kawkalh a an khengbet a, a na tuar hmel kan han mitthla hian, hnuk te pawh a lo ulh deuh thei a, kan spiritual ta riau a hriatna te kan han nei a, hei hi chu emotion mai a ni.

Khawnge naupang kan awmlo bawk a, thu khal deuh hi kan vawrh chhuak leh pek teh ang. I rinna a i buai vaih chuan i ngaihtuahawm hle tihna.

CROSS

A tradition of the Church which our fathers have inherited, was the adoption of the words “cross” and “crucify”.

These words are nowhere to be found in the Greek of the New Testament. These words are mistranslations, a “later rendering”, of the Greek words stauros and stauroo. Vine’s Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words says, “STAUROS denotes, primarily, an upright pole or stake … Both the noun and the verb stauroo, to fasten to a stake or pole, are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two-beamed cross.

The shape of the latter had its origin in ancient Chaldea (Babylon), and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name) … By the middle of the 3rd century A.D. the churches had either departed from, or had travestied, certain doctrines of the Christian faith.

Hetah chhiar belh duh tan -albatrus.org

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30 Responses to “Kross Chanchintha(lo)”

  1. 1
    Fugitive Says:

    khimi phettu tur pawh khi khawi khawiah emaw chuan a awm leh tho ang. Duh duh hian lo chhuiin lo ziak kual vel mah se e, Ka ring chuang lo!

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    Sony Says:

    Ka hriat sual loh chuan Good Thursday kan thleng chiah. (Good Friday kan la thleng lo deuh).

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  3. 3
    kook Says:

    Thiamna/hriatna/Finna a sang zel.. ngaihdan a tam tial tial.
    Ka hriat ve dan hi ka duhtawk rih e, beitham hle mahse. (I)

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    chemtatrawta Says:

    Zoho chu, nimin lawkah tuaitea nen kan hrilh che kha male.. :-[
    Duh lai bik te thlur bing a,kan duhdan bawka kan hrilhfiah chuan Bible thu hi kalsual pui theih hle a ni tih hi i hrethiam ve thoin ka ring a ni.. (N)

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  5. 5
    MyskyJoe Says:

    Kraws chu Kristiante tan chuan Isua Krista thihna leh thawhlehna avanga Nunna kan lo neih tak entirna a ni a. Kristian ni ve lote tan chuan eng pawh lo ni ang hmiang…

    Kraws pawh ni se, Pole ringawt pawh ni se, Isua Krista tel lo chuan awmzia a nei chuang lo a. Isua kha khenbeha a awm tawh tho tho avangin CHHANDAMNA a hlen ta tho tho si a…

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    rose10 parvuli Says:

    eng ti pawhin lo sawi se Isua’n min hmangaihna zat kha hen zo a awm chuang lo, chhiar ila, chhiar lo ila, kan rin Pathian a inghaht zelin aw.. gud friday hman nuam u (chhiar ve reng reng ang)

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    Soberboy Says:

    Tu emaw ngaihdan an rawn ziah kha ilo tawmpui tihna mi? Keichu Bible hi ka ring tawp mai ani e han chhui ve vak poh ka tum lo.Anih na ang ang hian ka pawm tawp.

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    chhana Says:

    Aw, Isu, chhandam tlakloh, keini misualte min rawn tlana; phuloh hmangaihnaa min vur avangin ka lawm e.
    KROSS pua nitin Amah zui turin Isua’n min sawm a nia. Tupawh a hnen pantu chu a lo lawm (wellcome)reng. Haleluiah…

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    vakul Says:

    Theologian hmasate Jesus of History leh Christ of Faith-a an buai ang deuh khan Cross of tree/definition leh cross of Faith-ah kan buai mai mai ang tih ka hlau.

    Theology/Bible hi a contradict lai zawn dawn chuan a thahnem viau; kan present turte context thlir lova hel barh chi a ni ngai lo.

    Zoho, i hriatna a thain i a zauh tehlul nen-Pathian hmangaihna thu thiam takin han sawi teh-chu chu kan hlimpui thin; “enge ka hlim chhan min zawt maw-Isua ka tana thi chu”

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  10. 10
    chemtatrawta Says:

    Chhana sawina enga ka rilrua rawn lang thut chu..
    Isuan nitin a kraws pu turin min ko, chu a kraws chu enge ni ta ang??..

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  11. 11
    Fugitive Says:

    mi tu tu emaw research ekebale ti nazawng hi an rintlak in an dik ber tihna a ni vek kher lo.

    Hmanni pawhin ka vai thian pakhatin Isua Kashmir-a Hindu sakhaw chungchang zir tura a kal thu min hrilh a, lehkhabu-ah eng history professor emaw niin a lo ziak a ni awm e.

    A hnu lehah Tibet vela Buddhist ho laka finna la tura a kal thu min hrilh leh a. Ka nuih liam vel mai mai zel. Tanchhan tur chu a nei ve thlap tho! :-O :-S :-$ :-P ;-)

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  12. 12
    awmawmpuia Says:

    Hriatna a tipung leh ta, a tha e.

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  13. 13
    keimah Says:

    ‘Cross’ tih aiah ‘Stake’, ‘Crucify’ tih aiah ‘impale’ !!! Bible thu nena enmilin ka awih lo nghal tawp!

    Tirhkoh Paulan, “Kros thu chu boral mek tan chuan atna” a tih hi a la dik zel. Cross aiah stake lo ni ta se Paula pawh khan ‘”Stake” thu chu’ emaw, ‘thingphun thu chu’ emaw tih awm tak!!

    A kuta khenna ser te hi tuna kan hriat dan ang thing khampheia kilh a nih duh hmel zawk lo maw? Chu bakah Lal Isua hun laia Rom sawrkarin hremna a hman dan te chu History-ah rin tlak tak taka ziak a la awm a lawm! Cross aia ‘stake’ tia ziak chu a tlem zawk an nih ka ring.

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  14. 14
    keimah Says:

    Bakah, Isua kha lei atanga khai kan ngei a ni a, thingtlawn phun ringawta patling khai kan chu a harsa deuh lo’ng maw? Zeldin thu bawl tawh mah mahin ka hria!

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  15. 15
    vakul Says:

    #10 chemtatrawt hei hi han en teh. Kraws awm zia.

    https://misual.life/2011/02/06/amen-sunday-pual/

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    keimah Says:

    Sorry, ka la duh tawk lo!!

    He post ngaihdan hi Jehovah Witness-ho ngaihdan chiah a ni a, an duh dan danin thu an her kual vel a, chungte chu ‘proof’ niin an ngai hmiah zel a ni zawk. Jehovah Witness zirtirna hi Bible thu nena inkalh a tam em em a, Trinity pawh ring lo, Isua pawh ring lo ho hi chuan kros thu hi chu sawi thui vak tur an nei em maw ni le ka ti ve mai mai. An ze pangngai anging thu pawimawh aiah thu fahrah te te buaipuia mite rilru chawh buai hi JW ho hian an thiam khawp.

    Cross or Stake chungchanga chhiar zawm duh tan:
    https://www.freeminds.org/doctr.....stake.html

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  17. 17
    chemtatrawta Says:

    thanks..@vakul…tisa kross kan ngai pawimawh ltk hi chu ka vei thin

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  18. 18
    Krista Says:

    Thianpa Zoho i thulak dan ka tan a tha thin e… (Y)

    Like your post in another sense….i am reminded of the cross which saw the image of the ultimate and perfect sacrifice of personal wellbeing in the interests of others(people like you and me so that we can have eternal life)….

    Talking of emotions in what sense???…As Zakaraih oftently pointed out,somewhere in the world of Philosophy we have made a huge blunder across the century when we lost contact with the reality of emotions and made human being purely cerebral(making brain work)….and in the 1950′s and 60′s the the existentiallist philosopher become so popular focusing on emotions,pasion and experience ,swing the pendulam to the other degree where rationality was not as important as acting with passion…Mind you thianpa Zoho God has given us our emotions for a reason just as he has given us ‘sensitivity to touch’. Suppose you put your hand on something that burn you pull it away because you know if you keep there for somtime it will burn the rest of your body…emotions are indicator of reality not fabricator or framers of reality…

    In the book of malakiah God said’ I have loeved you’ and the people look at him an said’In what sense?’.What a focussing emotions here,saying “I have loved you”….Can you imagine if this was relavant before the cross how much more will be relavant on the cross..You cannot worship God without emotions because he is born of love….Please share the meaning of emotions that God has given..this will give you a clear picture of what he is….hope you put faith and love in a separate sense within the christian context….here i am not talking of faith….hehehe… (H) (H)

    Please do read and go through some of the books and sermon of Christian Apologists,you can be someone fruitful to other….. Anyway i like your post… (H) (Y)

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    Asteric Says:

    haha… zohoa i ngaihdan hi thil thar a nilo, ka hriatna a rei tawh, a ho ka ti tlat :-) Hmannia thlarau thih theih leh theihloh chungchang phei kha chu Bible i bih ngailo maw chu aw tih theih tur in i suangtuahna kha vak thui in ka hria. Khang ngaihdan chhanna fak kha ka neie chu ka ti loa, mahse hman hmanah khan Sanhedrin ten an lo buaipui daih tawh. A hlui tawh lutuk, tunah chuan khatiang rinna nei ho kha chu atheism in an kal deuh vek tawh zawk.

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    bulaya Says:

    A historical Isuaah hi chuan buaina tur a tam mai, mahse Christian Spirituality a lut thuk zawk tan a pawimawh a chu #18 Krista kamkeuna ang deuhva, “…the image of the ultimate and perfect sacrifice of personal wellbeing in the interests of others” lam hian min lunglen zawk tur niin ka hria.

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    mirage_isme Says:

    @fugitive….”Jesus lived in India” by Holger Kersten, anih chu i thianpa soi chu. worth reading. read twice.

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    TuaiSialA Says:

    Thiam leh thiam, hria leh hria in han inchaltauh bap bap thin hi chu keini tan chuan a manhla thei ngei mai.

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    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Isua hunlaia puithiam lal, Kaiafa (Caiaphas) thlanah khan Isua hunlai ami Rom ho perek pahnih hmuh chhuah a ni. Hmun tam takah Rom ho thil hlui leh perek te pawh hmuh thin ni mahse, thlana phum tel ani khan zawhna a ti tam hle, bakah Kaiafa thlanah kher Rom ho perek an hmuh, khenbehna a hman tawh hnu ngei nia hriat an hmuh khan, awmzia ril tak nei ngei turin an ngai bawk.

    AD 6 naa Kaiafa (Caiaphas) lehkhabu an hmuhchhuah ah chuan Isua zirtirna pawmtu leh amah zuitu anih zia a ziak hmuhchhuah a ni bawk. Bible ah chuan Isua haw tu angin an ziak anih kha. Zirmi ten an rindan chuan Isua khan zirtirna thar arawn ken avangin puithiam ho khan an haw em em a, khami avang khan Kaiafa kha an hmehbel tel anih an ring ta viau hlawm nghe nghe a ni.

    Perek chanchin chu tlem kan google chhuah sak che u:
    https://pe2s.com/film-director-.....uss-cross/

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    mirage_isme Says:

    untouchable chu soi loh unseeable poh an awm lawm.
    gud post.

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  25. 25
    zoho Says:

    Hairehai….zanin chu ka hman tlai dah dah hle mai.Post thar paruk in a lo chilh hman tawh na a, kan ti ve lem luam hram teh ang. Sawi tur a tam ngei mai, sawi tanna tur pawh ka hre mai lo.

    @HV, I thusawi khi ka la hre ngai miah lo, zawhna- AD 6 na ah Isua zirtirna rintur engmah a awm si lo a, typing mistake ani zawk em? AD 30 vel ah a zirtir tan chauh si a? Puithiam lalber meuh Isua zuitu chu zirtirte leh Paula’n sawilan awm tak, a va mak ve mawle?

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    zoho Says:

    #19 @ Asteric

    Thil thar nilove, keipawh in ka hriatna chu a rei ve tawh kum 16 lai a ni ve ta. Mahse a HO ka ti ve hauhlo thung. Pathian in image, idol hrim hrim a huat dan zia hi a phen a thil pawi tak a awm vang a nia sin. Amulet pakhat bun leh curse inzawm tlatte, samzai pakhat leh voodooism te, religious symbolism leh masonry te, A TAM LUTUK.

    Babylonian pagan religious symbol ber kher Christinity ah kan venerate hi a chhan a ril tak meuh meuh asin.

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    vakul Says:

    Zoho, nang pawhin i rin loh leh i pawm dan loh khan mi dang convince tum kher lo la. Stauros emaw crux a ni emaw cross a ni emaw; hetih lai hunah hian kan mitthla ang kraws hi an hmang tih picture nen lam hmuh tur a awm tho si. Mi dang i ti buai mai mai lo maw.

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    zoho Says:

    # 18 @ Krista

    Amen e.

    Emotion leh feeling hrim hrim hi ka do miah lo. Pathian min pek, kan hman tur ni tehreng mai, chaw ei tihtui nan a chi leh hmarcha ka liak thin ang hian emotion leh feeling hi hman tur, chi leh hmarcha chu chaw ber emaw ti a chu chauh chu a bar a bar leh ei vak tur erawh a ni miah lo.Mi tamtak chuan emotion leh feeling hi thlarau thianghlim emaw an ti tlat tawh hi a nia diklo ka tih zawk chu.

    A bik in hmangaihna ah hian emotion leh feeling hi kan hai nasa,E&F hi hmangaihna tinuamtu leh chhemalhtu atan a oil leh greese hi a ni, a lo daih hian hmangaihna a dai ta emaw kan ti fur,hmangaihna diktak chu ‘accepting what is unacceptable to others’, ‘forgiving what is unforgivable to others’.i.e. LOVE is ACTION and DECISION, not FEELING and EMOTION.(See, they are the grease that help in making our decision and action)

    Pathian in min hmangaih ka tih hian a tap, a lungphu a rang, zan mu a chhing theilo ti lam a ni lo va, tanpui kan ngai tih min hmu a, min tanpui tur in decision a siam a, action a la zui ta tihna a ni zawk asin.

    Samari mitha khan hliam tuar a hmuh khan tanpui a ngai tih a hria a,tanpui tur in thuthlukna a siam a(decision), a sabengtung atang in a chhuk ta a ni(action).”Awi karei maw, a na em, tunge lo sawisa che, ka thin a va han rimtak em” a tih teh duah a ngai lem lo, a lo ti a nih pawn a pawina a awm lo. Mahse, ‘kan hmuh chiah khan ka tek chuai a, engtin emaw tak ka awm a, ka biang ah…blahx3…ka hmangaih nghal ni ber in ka hria…” a tih chuan feeling leh emotion hi hmangaihna emaw a ti tihna a ni ang.

    Hmangaihna diktak(action leh feeling) hi a dai theilo, dai thei chi pawh a ni lo,clear conscience kan neih chhung chu, mahse a masala-emotion leh feeling hi chu kan neih chen a inanglo a, a dai in a reh thei. I have decided to follow Jesus tih hi TRUE LOVE, Pathian in mihringte a min beisei chu a ni zawk asin.

    Nupui i neih dawn hun ah, a hmelthatna, duhawmna leh piannalhna ah kha chuan hmangaih suh,hmangaih a ngailo, tah kha chuan kei pawn ka duh ve tho,a thinchhiat riauna leh a aw lawi deuh leh mitkalh deuhna kha erawh hmangaih a ngai, tah kha chuan kei in ka duh ve thei tawh lo.(see, its decision)

    In inneih hun ah thlatir hlawh lak hlim, dam hrisel lai leh inhmuhtaih lai in inhmangaih ngawih ngawih a ngai lo, a fuh velvei vek. Thla tawp budget tight hun, damsam peihloh thinchhiat hun, hmai a taih reng theihloh hun ah erawh i nupui chuan i hmangaihna a mamawh tawh ang.(see, its decision)

    He HMANGAIHNA THUTAK hi Hollywood in an hre reng reng lo, just look at their all dreamy love scenes and their divorce rate. :-D

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    zoho Says:

    # 27 @vakul__Setana hi ringtute min beihna ah hian a beidawng ngailo a, min tihhlum a duh, mahse nunna ah thuneihna Pathian in a pek loh chuan a nei si lo, min rinlohtir a duh, a theihloh pawn min rinhlelh tir a duh, a theihloh pawn eng emaw ti taka kan nun a thuneih a duh,a theihloh pawn rinna a kan sawt theiloh nan leh curse leh infliction kan chung a thlen tir a duh. Engvangin nge, Bible a awm miahlo, Babylonian religious symbol, cross ber kher hi ringtute min kuahngheh tir tlat? Engvangin nge he symbol hmang hian khawvel hi a bum, CURSE leh WITCHCRAFT a nih loh chuan a chhan dang a awm theilo. Engvangin nge in rin theihloh, BEWITCHMENT.
    “Aw, Galatia mi a te u, enginnge DAWI A che u” a tih khan Kristian te hi dawi at theih kan ni tih a chiang lutuk tlat. Witchcraft ah chuan dawi hmanrua eng emaw a ngai ngei ngei a, kan kristian bungraw hrang hrang hi a mal mal in chhui ila, cross symbol hi milem biakna hmanrua anih avangin a awm ber a ni. Chu chu kan paih phal reng reng loh tur in kan ngaihhlut ber, Kan Lalpa Isua thihna ah min chhuahsak ta,Greek tawng a stauros leh Xylon, latin tawng a crux, English Cross tih thumal kan lehlin hi a root language ah chuan inkawkalh tihna a ni reng reng lo.

    He post hi knowledge tihzauhna atana rawn post ka ni lo, in hriatsiak lam pawh a ni lo, witchcraft lam post ka tum avanga ka rawn sawi hawnna a ni e.

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    zoho Says:

    Thil interesting ve mai mai chu, monetary sumbols ah hian cross(thil inkawkalh) hi a lar zel a,dollar, pound, yen, rupee,won, cent, franc,euro, adt. An LCF, similarity chu cross(inkawkalh) hi a ni. Sakawlh in one currency hi a rawn introduce dawn a nih chuan ram hrang hrang kan lungrual tlanna symbol tur chu cross hi a nih hmel ber.

    Cross hi Mizoram Protestant context nilo deuh, Worldwide Roman Catholicism and image/idol worshipping context in han thlir vang vang ula, Pathian a chawimawi nge Pathian huatzawng ni a in hriat?

    Brazil ah kawng a i kal chuan mi 5 i tawh in 1 zel in dawi leh witchcraft hi a practise ang hial in an ngai, kros an awrh uar em em bawk.

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