A hmasain, he post ziak tur hian ka thiam bik vanga ziak pawh ka ni chuang lova. Mi thiam zawkte cho chhuah nana ziak ka duh ve hrim hrim a ni. Naupan laia Baptisma chang tawh ka ni a, ka puitlin hnu pawhin ka chang bawk tih ka sawi hmasa duh a ni.
Hemi chungchangah hi chuan JOhn Calvin hi a sulsutu ber niin a ngaih theih a. John Calvin khan “Institutes of the Christian Religion” tihah khan ‘naupang baptisma’ hi ‘divine institution’ ti hialin a lo sawi a. Chuta a tanfung ber pawh chu ‘ that baptism is for the Christians what circumcision was previously for the Jews ‘ tiin a lo sawi a.
John Calvin hian Baptisma hi chu Pathian fate kan nih theih nana Kohhran chhunga kan luhna pakhat tiin a sawi mai a. Theologian thenkhat erawh chuan Lal Isua ‘Lal leh Chhandamtua’ kan pawm kan lanchhuatirna niin an sawi ve thung.
Hemi vang te pawh hian a ni ang e, missionary hna Mizoten kan thawhnaah hian hnamdangte hian Baptisma hi an ngaipawimawh em em a. Baptisma hi an chang deuh ngei ngei thin a ni.
Baptisma kan tih, English “Baptism” tih atanga kan lak hi Greek tawng “baptizo” tih, chu pawh chu “bapto” tih atanga lakchhawn a ni a. “bapto” tih chu English-a “dip“, Mizo tawnga “hnim/hnimphum” kan tih hi a ni a. Heng hun laia Greek hovin “baptizo/bapto” an hmanna thenkhat han tarlang ila.
1). Aesopa thawnthu ah. “a man dipped (baptizo) tow in oil, bound it to the tail of a fox, and set fire to it“
2) Diodorus, historian(60-30 BC) chuan..”Most of the wild land animals are surrounded by the stream and perish, being submerged (baptized).”
3) Josephus, Pathian thuthiam AD 37 a piang chuan..”The ship being just about to be submerged (baptized).”
Heng huna “baptism/baptizo/bapto” an hmanna hi a tak ngeia hnimphum niin a lang.
Martin Luther, tuia theh-a baptisma chantir thin pawh khan ti hian a sawi a “The term ‘baptism’ is a Greek word; it may be rendered into Latin by ‘mersia’ — when we immerse any thing in water, that it may be entirely covered with water. And though this custom be quite abolished among the generality (for neither do they entirely dip children, but only sprinkle them with a little water), nevertheless they ought to be wholly immersed, and immediately to be drawn out again, for the etymology of the word seems to require it.”
Hetah hian ka kalsan anga, Thu hmawr kaw zau hek hawk takin.. A chhin mawi takin misual mithiam ho khan han suih mum teh ang u.
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May 4th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Chemtatrawta act fast.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Hahah..thupuifun ve manak laia..
May 4th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
E khai a K’u Trawt he post hi chu ka vilpui ngam lo che. 😀 Kan inhnial luai luai mai ang ah. Ngaithlatu ah tang te’ng. 🙂
May 4th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Hnim phur kher hi a tha i ti tihna mi?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
@krista, thih leh ruam khatah kan ti thin ni lawm ni…:-)
A thu khi, a tlang ka bilh hleinem..a trang thiam2in an bilh mai ang chu….
May 4th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
@Fonz, chu takk chu kan debate ang chu..keichu ka nih kawp avangin speaker ka nia… 🙂
May 4th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
K’u Trawt: I chetdan hi a fair lo riau mai a. 😀 😀 ::lo lang zuai,hlau em em::
May 4th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Siamtharlehna lo chuan serh tan hi engmah a nilo a, serhtanloh pawh engmah a nilo. Kan dam a, hun remchang kan nei a, kan tlin anih erawh chuan Baptisma chan ngei hi a tha. (Y)
May 4th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Baptisma tih awmzia a chiangta bawk a, kan in baptist dan hi enge in ngaih dan le?……tlingthelh a piang pawitih a zaul ang tih a ni bawk sia.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
@lal-kris..i phakar emai oo..ka vel dawn chiang chee.. 😉
@saitawk, ni viau tho a..mahse Isua thupek a ni tlat alawm..tin,kohhran serh leh sang pawimawh tak a ni bawk a. Sacrament nen hian a pawimawhna chu inang rengin ka hria.,kei mimawl mai hian..
May 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
@alinery.. (Y) ,,Good question..Pu HV-a te ram ho hi in ngyhtuah ril tlat..
May 4th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Nia, han sawi teh ang u le.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Nausen chu sual hmasa tleng thiamhlim nana Isua Krista hminga baptisma chantir anni thin.
Nausen baptisma chantir chungchangah hian debate hmanlai atangin alo awm tawh thin. A hmasa berah chuan Bible kan en a tha awm e. Johana 3:5 ah chuan, “Isuan a chhâng a, “Tih tak meuhvin, tih tak meuhvin ka hrilh a che, mi tupawh tuiah leh thlarauva an pianthar loh chuan Pathian ramah an lût thei lo vang.” Isua khan “Tumah” baptisma chang lovin vanram an luhloh tur a sawi chiang hle a ni.
Tupawh baptisma la changlo te chuan baptisma an chan a pawimawh. Baptisma hi “A hming mai” anih loh avangin thlarau nen inkawp tlat a ni tawh. Baptisma chan nawn ngaiin tun thleng zirtir kala ni velo hlauh bawk.Mat. 28:18 ah khan Isua chuan thuneihna zawng2 pek anih thu chiang takin a sawi a, a sawi chu kan pawm mai tur a ni, Kristian nih chuan. Katholik Kohhran a baptisma chang tawh te hian denomination danga an luhin baptisma chan nawn angai tawhlo. Protestant atanga Katholik a luh dawn erawh chuan Baptisma chan that angai thung.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
‘mi tu pawh tuiah leh…’ tih hla kha ka hre chhuak zawk mai 😀
May 4th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Pu HV khi ka thlawp khawp mai.. Isua khan ti turin min ti a, chumi avang chuan baptisma hi chu tih ngei ngei a thain ka hria..
@ninja, rin aiin i hre zek ka ti.. 😉
May 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
#14 ninja 😛
May 4th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Pu HV,#9 khi in ram anih khi…lo fanu en teh.. 🙂
May 4th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Presbyterian lo ho zawng chu ngawih mai va tha zawk awm ve aw!! Sawi ve dawn chuan Baptist, Salvation, UPC tih dan pawh sawi tur awm teuh awm sia. 😛 😛
May 4th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
@ozima, loose end anih khi…kan debate ang chu lee…
May 4th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Kohhran Dan-a Sacrament ei tlaklo leh Dan khatna/Dan puitling/Dan thianghlim a nupui/pasal nei theilo, nei ta tho si ka hre teuh mai! Baptisma an chang vek bawk!.. tih thu sawi tur nei kan awm nual lawng maw!!
May 4th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
@13__ ku HV,…. “….. Ka ropuina hi midang hnenah ka pe lo vang a, fak ka hlawhna hi milem siam chawpte hnenah ka pe hek lo vang,” ( Isaia 42: 8 ) ah ziak a awm ve tho nia….hairehai…. 😀
May 4th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
#20
Ei tlaklo tam tak kan hriat rual hian, a ei tlak hi an tam zawk lawng maw le.. 😉
May 5th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Baptisma tih hi Grik tawng ani a,a awmzia chu tuia hnim, tuia thlawr, tuia theh, tuia bual, tuia su, tihna a ni duah a. Baptisma tih hian a huap zau em avangin Mizo tawnga Bible letling hmasa tu te chuan thu hlawm khata dah mai dan an hriat loh avangin Grik tawnga ‘baptisma’ tih hi an hmang zui ve ta mai ani. Hnim phum tihna ber ni sela chuan Grik tawng hmang lovin baptisma sawi nan ‘hnim phum’ tih hi a tir atang khan kan hmang daih tawh ang.
Lal Isua ngei in baptisma hi chantir turin Kohhran hnenah thu a pek avangin baptisma hi a lo piang ani (Mat. 28:19,20).
Juda te chuan Juda chhungkua ami an nih zia chhinchhiah nan serh an tan a, chutiang bawk chuan kristian te chuan Lal Isua ringtu kan nihzia chhinchhiah nan baptisma kan chang ve thin ani. Kohhran chhungkua ami kan nihzia entirna ani bawk.School naupang chuan form a ha a, a form hak avangin school naupang ani lo va, school naupang a nih avangin form a ha zawk ani. Chutiang bawkin baptisma hi chhandam nan kan chang lo va, chhandam kan nih avanga ringtu kan nih chhinchhiah nan leh nemngheh nan Isua thupekin kan chang tur ani.
Baptisma chang tur te chu Lal Isua ringtute leh an fate an ni a(Tirh. 2:39), nausen te pawh puitling ang bawk a chhandamna changte te an nih ve avangin baptisma an chang ve tur ani.
Baptisma voi khat chan hi a tok ani.Mahse kohhran hrang hrang tih dan a in ang loh avangin kohhran dangah kan in let anih chuan min chan nawn tir ngei ang.
#10 Baptisma hi Sacrament tho ani e,Baptisma Sacrament ani deuh kher, i ngaihdan ah chuan Lalpa Zanriah Sacrament chauh hi sacrament emaw i ti ani maithei, Lalpa Zanriah leh Baptisma hi Sacrament ani ve ve e.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:03 am
Mizoram chhim leh hmara min then chiang ber tu chu Kohhran hi niin in hre ve em ?
Sap-ho khan Aizawlah Presbyterian Kohhran, Sap-ho tho khan Serkawnah Baptist Kohhran. Divide and Rule tactic tho hi an hmang em ni ? Han insuihkhawm ila Mizoram ropui leh hmasawn dan tur hi a chhui-mi khan han lepse teh u.
Shillong biakin pakhata inkhawm ho thei lo Mizote hian inlungrual kan va hlat tak em!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:06 am
#23,
Baptisma awmzia chu a post ah khian a chiang viau chuan ka hria. A tobul atangin ka rawn sawi vek tawh khi…
I last para khi chu ka type lai pawn ka ngaihtuah ve tho a, marawhchu, a tawi khian ka ziak ta mai a ni e.. I ngaihdan ka pawm thlap e..
May 5th, 2011 at 12:09 am
‘Trawta, a thupui khi ‘Nausen Baptisma hi’ i tihna a ni zawk em?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:11 am
@benny..nih hmel jok ve..i mit va fing ee…admins ho khan lo thlak mai thei ngem aw???
May 5th, 2011 at 12:11 am
@ chemtatrawta hei hi lo en ve mai2 bok la, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism
May 5th, 2011 at 12:13 am
baptisma hi…van khua leh tui kan nih chhihchhiahna a ni a..dam chhung atan vawi khat a tawk..ka lawm e
May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 am
@post John Calvin hian Baptisma hi chu Pathian fate kan nih theih nana Kohhran chhunga kan luhna pakhat tiin a sawi mai a.
Rawn bei tawi ang reng. Heti chauh em ni Calvina khan a sawi aw!! :-O
@post Baptisma kan tih, English “Baptism” tih atanga kan lak hi Greek tawng “baptizo” tih, chu pawh chu “bapto” tih atanga lakchhawn a ni a. “bapto”…
Flexible word a ni a, Bible lettute khan an translate ngam ngai lo. Saptawnga ‘carry’ mizotawngah dah dawn ta ila, keng, pua, chawi, phur, chhipchhuan,etc a ni ang a.
Controvercial pointah luh ka duh hran lo; hei erawh hi chu Baptisma hi a tui tam lamah a innghat lo, a changtu rilru a pawimawh ber.
Puitlin hnua chan duh chuan mahni chhia leh tha hriatnaa chan.
Nausen duh chuan an fate an tet lai atanga Pathian thua enkawl tura thutiam lak.
2Goal= Isua ke bul=vanram
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 am
@abc, ka en ngei e…wikipedia version leh theologian version chu lo inang hauh lo tak anih khi mawle???. A para hnuai deuhah khian en thla jel la,
Today, some Christians, particularly Quakers and the Salvation Army, do not see baptism as necessary, and do not practice the rite.
tih inziak khi ka hmu a.. Salvation Army ho chuan an lo ti ve ngai tawh nange aa?????
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 am
ka sawi tum in man loh takin..naupan lai nen vawi 2..chumi awmzia chu..naupan laiu chuan engmah kan la hre lova…kan nu leh pate rinna kan tawm a..chumi avang chuan min baptize a..kan lo thanglian a.rinnaa mi puitling kan lo nih veleh kan in baptize ta thin…
May 5th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Babtisma tih hi mi tam tak inhnialna a ni thina, tuia hnim phum ngei ani tih pawh kan hria, mahse kan la inthlawr tho chu a nia, a then lahin baptisma an changa an intheha, ka ngaihtuahna pakhat ah chuan a tam tam tihdan leh kalna hi a dik emaw a dik lo emaw pawh nise, kan zawm ta dual dual chu a nih ber hi ka ti mai mai a, a ni ve reng asin,. hei hi kohhran dang ka sawiselna a ni chuang lo, Pathian pakhat, rinna hmun khat nei inti chung si hian ‘A’ thu ngaichang silo hian khawvel dan hi kan zawm tlat hrih thin chu ani sia, kan inbihchian chu a ngai khawpin ka hria
May 5th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Baptisma a inhnim phum leh inhnim phum lovah buai duh suh u, chatuan Nun a hawlh tlang lo em mai a…….. a hnim phum pawh phum loh pawh i pawm vek ang u khai………… Chanchin Tha puan darh nana tha kan tih anga hman kha a tawk mai alom, in hnimphum hovin a thlawr ho sawisel lo ila, a thlawr hovin sawisel lo bawk ila…. chu2 a ni mai…
Chanchin Tha nena in mawi hi a pawimawh ber….. damlo na tak, tho chhuak peih tawh lo awm sela, Baptisma chan duh sela, ihnimphum kher dawn ami???? Thlalerah, inhnim phumna awm miah lovah thi tep awm ta sela Baptisma chan duh tlat si sela, engtin nge i tih ang, i tui thawl pai ami kha i hman mai kha a awlsam ve tho ania…
inhnial nan chuan a nep em mai a…..!!!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:21 am
A dik ber leh a tha ber ka hrelo, mahse baptisma leh Lalpa zanriah sacrament te hi ngaih pawimawh tur niin ka ngai. Kohhran hrang hrang ina kan tihdan a inang lova kan awmna kohhran in an tihdan kha tha taka zawm mai a tha in ka hria a kan duhlo anih chuan kan duh kohhran zawm leh mai. Kohhran pawl dang tihdan sawisel lo thung ila.
#23 Presbyterian hi chuan (ka hriat sual loh chuan) kohhran puitlinga pawm an nei a, chung atanga an kohhrana inlet an awm chuan an baptist tha leh kher pawhin ka hrelo. Salvation Army atanga lut erawh baptisma an neih loh vangin (niin ka hria) an baptist tha leh thin.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:28 am
@chemtatrawta…ka en e…ka rawn comment hnu a ka chhiar chawp veleh tho ani a ka rawn en tir veleh mai2 che nih kha, quakers ka ni lo a, salvation pawh ka ni lo a, an ti velo a an pawl dan ani e, Bible in chang tura min tih avang hian chan ngei ngei tur ani. I post tha lutuk e..
May 5th, 2011 at 12:29 am
#22 : Alu bag pakhat alu pum tamtak awmna hi Alu pum khat trawih hian a ti rimchhe vek thei asin! 🙂
OT: UCL Post a awm miahloh chu le! khawnge Goldy hi aw!!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Hmelthate, hetah hi chuan i hmel a thalo tep!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:32 am
@abcy,,thanks.. (Y)
@saitawk, balu bag-a rawra pakhat awm chuan engtin vak mah pawi a sawi lem lo sin… 😉
keichu hmelthatea hi ka tran em… 🙂
May 5th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Bible a thumal te hi grammatically a chhut chuan hmun tam takah inhnialna tawp theilo tam tak a awm. Baptisma pawh chutiang chu niin ka hria, kohhran in kan hman dan a inang lova; a hnim a hnim kher te,thenkhat phei chuan zangthal kher in,tui a thlawr te, leh puanzar hnuaia neih mai te. Heng zawng zawng hian mahni tihdan kan sawimawi tlang pui bawk a. A pawimawh ber zawk chu greek tawngah enge a awmzia, hebrai tawngah enge a awmzia tia mahni kohhran hman dan leh rin dan thiamchan tir tum a sawimawi ai chuan, Baptisma chang tur a thu min petu hian engvanga chang turin nge min tih tih hi a ni. Miin chhandamna a pawm a, kohhran thianghlim member a nih duh phawt chuan thlaler vaivut paw’n lo in vur se enge pawi chuang ang ni? Baptisma chang tur a thu min petu ngei pawh khan kraws lerah(tui awm remchan lohna hmunah) khan far khat tak ngail pawh a thlawr sak loh kha.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Hetah ti nghal mai rawh u..ka post hi ka phal vek ka tih kha…saitawk…
May 5th, 2011 at 12:37 am
“…Pa leh Fapa leh Thlarau Thianghlim hmingah chuan BAPTIST ula…” a tih kha maw!!! 😉 …MA lam hi chu ka hre tlem em mai, ka awl e. 😛
In va han bei ril thuai thuai ve mawle. 😀
May 5th, 2011 at 12:39 am
@chemtatrawta, Alu bag a rawra awm chu a dik tawhlo hrim hrim alawm! Man utd team zinga Chelsea captain awm ang vel a ni! 😛 (Y)
A 1-0 ta nge nge! FC Schalke hian an khelh dan ah lehthal ngei an tum! an bawh huam huam mai, an bawh sual nge nge! an hmuhnawm reuh lutuk.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:43 am
OT man 1-0 sch
Valencia (Y)
May 5th, 2011 at 12:44 am
A hrilhfiahna leh kohhran hrang hrang in kan rindan te kan hretlang hlom ta bawk a, a dik baptisma hi vanram kawngkhawr luhna a chahbi poimawh ber te xing ami chu ani ngei e, mahse rindan hrang2 nei kohhran te hian Bible ah engtin nge a tih tihhi kan hmufiah thiamlo nge kan hrelo der xok?? Penticost ni tanga kohhran lo ding tan, miten Kristian an tih takte khachu an in pumkhat tha sia. tinge keini hi thukhat vuanin rinna 1 pathian 1 kan zawm theih loh le….a hun chu a la thleng ngei dawn sia. kan rindan hi bible nen a in mil em? mihring in nge kohhran lianpui2 te hi kaihruai a Pathian thu Bible rinchan in? In ngaihtuah chu a hun a ni…. ;-(
May 5th, 2011 at 12:44 am
#23 & #40 na hi ka thlawp e.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:47 am
2-0 ta deuh2! keeper chu a va han man beilo mai mai! 4-0 ta nge nge! pawi eeeeeeeeee!! 😛
May 5th, 2011 at 12:47 am
man 2-0
May 5th, 2011 at 12:48 am
zoho i post chu a va rawn chhuak har rapthlak ve!!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:50 am
@Arazz, i thil sawi hmang chuan engkim a tha emaw tha lo emaw pawh nise, a ngaihdan tam zawk leh mipui tihdan zawm ve mai chi i nih hmel(a mimala inhuatna erawh anilo). “damlo na tak, tho chhuak peih tawh lo awm sela, Baptisma chan duh sela, ihnimphum kher dawn ami???? Thlalerah, inhnim phumna awm miah lovah thi tep awm ta sela Baptisma chan duh tlat si sela, engtin nge i tih ang, i tui thawl pai ami kha i hman mai kha a awlsam ve tho ania…” (hei pawh hian chatuan nun chu hawlhtlang lo ve fu chuan ka hria,..)he thu hi Baptisma hnimphum ngei ani tih hre reng chunga hnial hram duhte tanfung pakhat ani fo. Lalpa lalpa mi ti nazawng vanram an chang kher loang,….. tin, Isua hi thlarau atang chauh lo chuan Pathian ani tih tuman an hre thei lo (a phrase hi chiang chiah lo mahse a tum a thelh love), Bible chhung thu hi mahnia lo laka, mahni duh thua lo phulpui vak chi ani lo (ka rawn tihna che ani tawh lo)