I came across this news article on the Telegraph and thought it might interest some of you misual.commers. I did some googling of my own and found out that this isn’t the first time such a claim has been put forward. It appears that in 1980 a certain Victor Paul Wierwille published his findings that Jesus died on a pole in Jesus Christ Our Passover. He also showed that there were 4 others crucified with Jesus.
Anyway, this is what’s written on the Telegraph.uk:
Jesus may not have died nailed to the cross because there is no evidence that the Romans crucified prisoners two thousand years ago, a scholar has claimed.
The legend of his execution is based on the traditions of the Christian church and artistic illustrations rather than antique texts, according to theologian Gunnar Samuelsson.
He claims the Bible has been misinterpreted as there are no explicit references the use of nails or to crucifixion – only that Jesus bore a “staurus” towards Calvary which is not necessarily a cross but can also mean a “pole”.
Click HERE to read the full article.
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:31 am
kan chhiar ange… :lol:
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:32 am
@Killer shark: va hmanhmawh ve awwwwww
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:33 am
Hetiang thu lawilo mai mai hi buaipuilo teh ang u.. Bible ringtu kan nih chuan! Kan Pathian Thu nen a inkalh a, ringlo mite thusawi mai mai :lol:
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:34 am
Zephenath Says: @Killer shark: va hmanhmawh ve awwwwww
Tih palh lutuk aw… :lol:
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:34 am
Zephenath a thinrim :lol:
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:36 am
@killer: i hmanhmawh dan tur ka hmuthiam mai ‘e’ tih ringawt han post mai chu.. (i edit ta a…hmanni admin 1 khan edit lo tur khan min rawn deuh a….hahhaha)
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:36 am
Kristia nih chuan BIBLE hi rin tawp mai tur.
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:37 am
Tikhan killer-a chu tui deuhvin a mut phah ve ngei ang a! lol…in indaih tur ka post ang a, ka 1st tir threuh dawn che u mawni chu awww
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:38 am
Bible…chhiar ila, chu2 ring ila atawk kati khawp mai. :roll:
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:38 am
@BMW: A first lo ang tih a lo va hlauhawm tak ve.. killer, tui deuhin mu ang che.. :roll:
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:42 am
Zephenath Ka edit na chhan kha chu, mirilru kana ang tih ka’n hlau leh deuh lawm male.
I 1st loh vang khan rilru tina lutuk duh suh :lol:
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:43 am
@kiler: hahahhahaaaa…
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:43 am
A duh leh a thilo lo ti ve mai mai sela, keinin kan rinna ti chak tu atan leh nun khaw zir nan kan hman chuan, a ni sawi leh sawi loh a sawngsawhlawt love.
Keini Kristian te tan chuan Isua kha an khengbet ngei a ni.
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:45 am
Kross thu chu boral mekte tan chuan atna a ni si a, Keini chhandam mekte tan chuan Pathian thiltihtheihna a ni zawk
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:49 am
#5 :lol: :lol:
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:10 am
In ‘draw’ ah min lo cho teh u
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:12 am
Va hlauh awm dawn ve 0Oo :roll:
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:34 am
Jehovah Witness ho pawh hian Isua hi Cross ah an khengbet lo, ban(pole) ah an khengbet an ti.
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:46 am
engti pohin ziak sela Isua hi min chhandam turin Kross ah a thi nithum ni ah thihna hnehin a tho leh tih bak hi pom ka tum lo.
Eng perek nge an hman nge an phuar nge thing suih zum an hmang tihlam ka thlek lo min chhandam tu anih ka pawm a tawk khoops
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:16 am
sala..
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:42 am
hahahahahaha pooot
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:51 am
still alive
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Rin tur a ni nge ni lo chu ka hre lova, mahse he article-in sawi a tum tak ni a lang chu Isua thih leh thih loh lampang ni lovin ‘Kross’ tih thumal tak hi Bible (lehlin loh) ah khan a awm lo tih sawi a tum zawk niin a lang. An lehlinnaa an tihsual a tihna ni berin ka hria.
Khenbeh a nih tho chuan kross kher ni lo mah se, ringtu tan enge a danglam vak na? Pathian aia Kross ngaih pawimawh lutuk te hi ‘idol worship’ kan tihah hian a tel deuh reuh lo maw?
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Jehovah Witness ho rin dan a nia, thil thar vak a ni lo. Hnial eng ang mah ula, an rin dan hi an thlak dawn chuang lo.
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Ka chhiar sual a nih loh chuan Samuelsson-a hian Isua kha ‘kraws-ah khenbeh’ a ni kher lo thei a ti ni berin a lang.
A thusawi thenkhat hi chu a dikna chin chu a awm. Entirnan ‘kraws’ kan tih hi kan lo suangtuah thin ang leh lemziaka kan hmuh thin ang erawh hi chu a ni kher lo thei. Achhan chu ‘kraws’ (stauros GK.) tih hian a huam zau em em a, thing tlawn (pole) sawina a nih rualin thing kawkalh (cross) sawina pawh a ni tho va. Kraws/thing kawkalh ringawt pawh hi chi hrang hrang a tam mai. ‘T’ ang te, ‘X’ ang te leh kan hriat lar ber ‘+’ sign ang deuh a hnuai lam sei zawk ang chi te. Hemi avang hian kraws tih tak hi chu ngaihruat theih tam tak a awm. Petera pawh khan “Nangnin Isua ‘thingah’ khai kangin in tihhlum kha, min thlahtute Pathianin a kai tho leh ta a ni” a ti mai a nih kha.
Amaherawhchu Isua Krista kha khenbeh ngei a ni tih hi chu Kristian thurin bulpui ber a ni a, Samuelsson-a hian Bible ah Isua kha khenbeh ngei a nih zia a hmuh loh chuan Bible a la bel chianglo a ni maithei.
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:13 am
That’s how people become famous, try avoid such a rumour it’s just for some one’s crown…
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Zirtu an tam, ngaihdan a tam… Pathian chu a ngai a ni…
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Samuelsson-a tranhmun ber chu Isua hunlaia Rom sawrkar khan kraws hi mi khenbeh nan an hmang ngai lo a ti. ‘An khengbet lo’ tih a tumna lampang ni lovin.
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Huiham keichu hetiang hi ka ning tlat.
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:09 am
“Let him be crucified” or “Crucify him” tih hi Mizo Bible-ah chuan “Kross-ah khengbet rawh” tiin min lehlinsak. Chik chian chuan “KROSS-AH” tih hi thu chuangliam a ni.
STAUROS hi POLE ERECT tiin Strong chuan a hrilhfiah a. Thing ding ngil tia hriatthiam theih ve chu a ni. “Thinga khaikan” tiin OT lam chuan a ziak uar zawk zu nia!
Method of Crucifixion aiin Purpose of Crucifixion a pawimawh zawk.
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:31 am
@Chawnghilh: “Method of Crucifixion aiin Purpose of Crucifixion a pawimawh zawk”
Ka ngaihdan chiah.
Kraws te, Isua lim te, Mary lim te, etc buaipui lutuk hi ‘idolatry’ chi khat a ni thei lo maw?
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:33 am
@keimahte sawi ang hian Bible a chhiar chiang lo deuh a nih hmel, khenbeh anih thu a hmuh loh danah hian. Mahse a thu tlipna hi chu tha ka ti khawp mai “My suggestion is that we should read the text as it is, not as we think it is. We should read on the lines, not between the lines. The text of the Bible is sufficient. We do not need to add anything.”
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Sawi vel teh u, duh leh India ram hmar lam, vur ramah a inbengbel ti se, duh leh lungin an deng hlum ti se. Misual ho chuan Bible i pawm mai teh ang u.
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Keini chhandam mek te tan chuan PATHIAN thil tih theihna ,Khawvel mi te tan erawh at na.
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
“Jesus MAY NOT HAVE DIED NAILED to the cross because there is no evidence…”
“Mr Samuelsson said the actual execution texts do not describe HOW CHRIST WAS ATTACHED TO THE EXECUTION DEVICE”
Scripture is clear about how Christ was ‘attached’ to the ‘execution device’. He was attached to the execution device by being nailed to it.(Acts 2:23)
“Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it” (John 20:25). This statement by the apostle Thomas is another solid evidence that Christ was hung on a tree or attached to the stauros or cross by being nailed to it.
The problem with Samuelsson’s argument lies not only on Christ not being crucified on a cross but it seems he also denys that he was nailed to the execution device. But Scripture clearly refutes his exposition because there can be no doubt whatsoever that Christ was nailed (khenbeh).
PS : Bible sawi bak belh hi a tha lova, Bible sawi ngei hnawl hi thil hlauhawm tak a ni.
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Interesting.
But see also:
https://www.themoorings.org/apo...../cruc.html
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
lakheranthur hi saiha district ah chuan anthur an ti mai anti hmel lol
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
FONZ.. ii commentna hi a diklo ni lo maw??
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
dik lo lui anih kha lolzz
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Samuelsson-a sawi ai chuan kan bible sawi hi ka pawm e
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
bible sawi hnawm tumna hi a lo la chhuak dawn chauh mahse, ‘nghet takin i ding ang’
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Bible hi ring ila a tawk mai e. Sawihnawm tum lo la chhuak zel mahse Bible hian dawt a sawi ka la hre ve tlat lo.
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July 8th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
an duh duh lo sawi mai rawh poi ka ti lo. thudik chu thudik awmsa , kan rin vanga dik a ni ber kher lo. kan Bible hi khawvel lehkha bu zingah trawng 1000 chuang ah lehlin a ni a, zawlnei ten 300- 400 inkar an dam hun pawh inang (inchen) lo theuh, mahni hunah pathian hrilh ang zelin, an ziah a piang a thleng dikin leh, an thu a inang vek thei hi, mimawl ber tan pawh rin loh chi a ni lo.
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