Trinity awmzia/nih rinna hi tûn hma aá¹angin a nih theih dan leh theihloh dan ngaihtuahna rilru ah alo inbuan ve fo á¹hin a. Trinity rin dan a ni emaw, Oneness rin dan a ni emaw, thenkhat anga thlahtu te atanga pawm zawk anih vang ngawta, sahuai thingvawna pawm loh lam rindan hnawl sak erawh á¹ha ka ti hek lo.
Pathian chhandamna leh rorel dan hi Pathian pakhata minung pathum awm rinna(Trinity) hian min hriat fiah thiam tir ta zawk ni a ka hriat dan chu famkim lo takin ka rawn ziak ve e ka tia. Trinity rinna awmzia la hre fiah thiam lo tan pawh alo á¹angkai mial tak in.
Trinity chu enge ni? Tri leh unity belhbawm thumal a ni a, Pathian pakhat GOD nihna sawina a ni. Tri = pathum (Pa, Fapa, Thlarau Thianghlim), Unity = Pakhat (Patian). Isua chu Pathian a ni, Pa chu Pathian a ni, Thlarau Thianghlim chu Pathian a ni. A Tri na chu Isua, Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim a ni a a Unity na chu Pathian a ni. Pathian pathum a awm tihna nilovin Pathian sawina vek pathum a awm tihna a ni.
Pathian pakhat chauh a awm ti si chu chu engvanga sawi hran nge a tul? Ele, heng pathum te hi Pathian hnathawh dan hrang theuh thil tih in anglo vek a ni si a sawi hran loh chuan Pathian rorelna kan hmu in kawlkalh dawn a ni. Anih leh heng pathum te hi a awm hrang reng em?
Awm hrang reng e, a awm hran avang hian Pathian rorelna chu kan hre fiah zawk a ni. Engtin? Pa chuan Pathian rorel hna a khaikhawma, Fapa chuan ngaihdamna(Chhandam tu), Thlarau Thianghlim chuan tanpuina leh sual hriata thiamloh chantirna.
Chungte chu han sawi ah fiah deuh teh?
Pa leh Fapa leh Thlarau Thianghlim te hi pumkhat leh lak hran theih loh duhdan thuhmun vek, hnathawh dan in anglo anni. Pa hi Pathian rorelna kenkawhna a ni a, chu a rorelna hmanrua chu Thlarau Thianghlim a ni. Thlarau Thianghlim chu a nunga, thlarau chunga thunei tu a ni, a thianghlima bawlhlawh leh sual reng reng a ngaithei lo a ni.
Pathian thu nunna chu Thlarau Thianghlim a ni a, engkim a chhui chhuaka diklohna zawng zawng hailang tu leh thil diklo thiamloh chantirna turte chhuichhuak tu a ni a, Pathian rorelna leh dikna entirna/hriat theihna á¹ha thei tawp a ni. Thil á¹halo reng reng a ngaithei lova, bawlhlawh reng reng a pai thei lo.
Pathian chuan van ah vantirkoh(thlarau) Ama anpui in tam tak a dina, chung thlarau te chuan thianghlimna chiah an nunpui theihnan an chunga rorel turin Pathian aá¹ang chuan a duhzawng nung reng turin Thlarau Thianghlim alo awm a ni. Chu Thlarau Thianghlim chu an chung á¹heuha nunga hnathawk theiin Pathianin a din a, sual reng reng kai lo leh bawlhhlawh kailo chuan a awmpui reng á¹hin.
Chu Thlarau Thianghlim chu sawi tawh angin Pathian mize á¹hatna tawp entirna nung renga awm anih avangin bawlhlawh reng reng a ngaithei lova, a sawi chhia leh a hnawl tu chu ngaihdam theih a ni lo, Pathian thatna tawp duhlo anih tawh avangin kawng dang a awm tawh lo.
Chu Thlarau Thianghlim duhdan nung renga chu sawi chhiaa hnawlin Lucifer a chuan amah leh Pathian thlarau siam hmun thum athena hmun 1 dawn lai chu thlemin a dodal pui ta a. An duhthlanna ngeiin chatuan atana Pathian ngaihdam theih lohvin an in barhlut ta a ni, chu ngaihdam theihlohna thu chu Pathianin Amah atanga Thlarau Thianghlim a tirhchhuah ruala Amah veka roreltura ding Pa thu chhuak awm sa a ni.
Anih leh Lucifer-a thlem thluk chatuana ngaidam thei lo tu chuan Lucifer-a thlem thluk tho mihring te hi engtinnge min ngaihdam theih bik tlat, chatuan atan ani ve lo em ni?
Pathian chuan thlaraua a siam te chunga rorelna kenkawhnan a á¹hat theihna tawp hmuh theihna mi nung Thlarau Thianghlim a hmang kan tih tawh kha, mihring (thlarauva la nung velo)te chung ah erawh chuan rorelna hran a hmang tlat mai. Chu roreltu chu A hmangaih theihna tawp hmuh theihna mi nung Fapa in a ni a rel thung ni, chu chu min din chhan, thlarauva awm angel te ang lova tisa neia siam hran kan nih chhan pawh a ni. Fapa chuan Thlarau Thianghlim angin thiamloh a chantir ve ngai lova, Pathian khawngaihna leh lainatnaa khat rorelna entirna a ni.
Lucifer-a Thlarau Thianghlim rorelna duh lova hnawl tu leh sawisel tu chuan amah leh vantirkohte ang bawka thlarau nei tisaa nung (mihring) te thlarau chu lam á¹anga neih belh leh tumin a thlem thlu leh ta! Tisa( flesh)a nung nanana chuan thlarau ala hriatthiam loh avangin, mit varna leh Pathian ang nihna chu tisa taka ngaihtuahin alo duh ve ta mai a.
An mit alo var a, Pathianin thlarau tisa neiin a siam ani tih an inhriat meuh chuan Setana rilru ang a mit lo var in an mahni famkim lohna leh saruak hria in an in zahpui ta a, Pathian ang an lo nihna chu chhia leh á¹ha hriatna ah chiah alo ni si. Pathianin “In ei ni la la in in thi ang” a tih chu roreltu Pa rorelna ah chuan thi tlak mitthi an lo ni ta reng maia, Pa thinlung ah chuan an thi ta der mai.
Mahse mihring hi chhan neia Pathianin a siam a ni kan tih tawh kha, a hmangaihna tawp lan tir theihna mi nung, sual reng reng hre lo Hmangaihna chiah pai, Fapa kal tlanga rorelna neih tur a ni bik tlat mai. Sual reng reng pu ve lo, Pathian hmangaihna hlang, ngaihdamna ringawt ngaihtuahtu Fapa Isua chuan a Hmangaihna in a tuar zawh leh zawhloh chu mihring innghahna neih chhun a ni.
Fapa chu lei ah lo kalin Pa rorelnaa thiamloh chang zawng zawng, Pa rorelna in Thlarau Thianghlim hmanga thiamloh a chantir Pathian rama chan nei leh thei ngai reng reng tawhlo tur uire te, tualthat te, hleprukna nei tawh denhlum tur te chu Pa rorelnaa thiam chang leh thei turin a phurh sak dawn avangin a rawn ngaidam ta hmiah hmiah mai.
Heng sual te hi a á¹awmpui tihna nilovin chatuana Pa lam hawi thei tawhlo te anni a, Pa lam an hawi leh theihna tura tuarsaka a hnungzuia Pa hnen hruai thleng turin a ngaidam a ni. Pa hmel hmuh leh theihna kawng chu Amah chauh chu a ni “….Keimaha kal lo chu tumah Pa hnen an thleng ngai lo” a ti.
Fapa chuan Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim duhdan a dodal ngai reng reng lova, Pathian nihna neisa, Thlarau Thianghlim leh Pa nihna tawmpuia lungawi sa a awm vek anni zawk a. An duhdan taka kan tana Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim ti lungawi leh tura ama tana hremna Dan siam nilo, a hmangaihte tana Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim hmanga hremna Dan awm sa zawng zawng te chu zawh famkima Pathian(Pa, Fapa, TT) lungawina thlen famkim leh a tum anih chu (a tan nilo i tan leh ka tan), “Mi tirtu duhzawng tih hi ka chaw tui ber a ni” a ti.
Chu tuarna ah chuan Fapa (Isua) chu a chianga Setana pawh a chianga, Isua chu hneh thei anih a in ring. A hneh chuan Pathian nihna famkim leh rorelna chu a tlabal dawna, hnehna ropui tak a lawm thei dawn a ni.
Pa hneh tawh lova paih thlak leh Thlarau Thianghlimin chatuan atana thiamloh a chantir tawh hnu a ni tih in hre mahse Lucifer-a chuan Pa nilo, Thlarau Thianghlim nilo Fapa (Isua) tal chu hneh theih ala inringa vawi tam tak a thlem a ni. Mihring tana rorel tur Pathian(Isua) chuan Pathian nihna a á¹awmpui thin Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim thiltih theihna chuan an kalsan a á¹ul chang a awm thin a.
Setana hi kan tan min tlan nan a hneh a ngaih vang leh kan tan thiamloh chantir chu alo kal chhan a nih si avang in hnehtu nisa Pa ropuina chuan a kalsan á¹hin a, Setana bawl at tuarna chu a kut ah a nghat a ni. “Ka pa, ka pa engatinge min kalsan” tiin a rum a ni. A lungngaih vawrtawp lai pawhin Pa chuan a pui thei lova, a ti harh turin Fapa(Pathian) aia hnuai fê a siama awm Vantirhkoh erawh alo ding ve hram a ni.
Pa rorelna in Thlarau thianghlim hmanga thiamloh min chantirna No chu in a hreh em avangin “Ka Pa, rem i tih chuan he no hi ka hnen ata la sawn rawh; nimahse keia thu ni lovin, nangma thu thu ni zawk rawh se” a ti ve ngawih ngawih a ni. Setana avanga thlan thisen anga far neih chu Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim rorelna chuan a duhlo khawp ang, Hmangaihnaa din Pathian Isua chuan nang leh kei atan nasa taka ngenin tlawm thlak ti hle mahse Roreltu Pa hnen ah lak sawn duh em em si khan kan tuarna chu Pa thu ah a nghat ta zawk a ni.
“Fapa meuh pawh ni mah sela, a thil tuarahte chuan thu awih a zîr ta a ni; tichuan, tihá¹hat famkima lo awmin, a thu awih zawng zawngte tân chatuana chhandamna bulpui a lo ni ta.” Pathian (Pa, Fapa, TT) nena kan inremna chu Amahah chuan nghaha lo awmin a rinchhan apiang te chu Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim pawhin thiamloh a chantir thei ta lo.
Isua thisen ah chuan mi zawng zawng chhandama lo awmin, ngaihdam loh mihring piang reng reng an awm thei lo. Kross ah chuan sualna awm thei zawng zawng leh lola awm tur tlengin khenbeh in a awm, Fapa hmangaihna chuan ka hnehta “A kin ta” tiin a thlarau a thlah ta a.
Chu kan inrem lehna thuthlung hriatrengna chu, Pathian Thlarau in kawngka bianga Beramno thisen kai a hmuh apiang a kalhlenna ni hriatreng na, Kalhlen Kût zanah khan Isua chuan a thisen leh a taksa chhinchhiahna pu apiang Pathianin ala kalhlen ve dawn a ni tih hriatrengna turin sacrament min buatsaih sak a. Chu chu Pathiana kan himna chhinchhiahna awmchhun Isua(Beramno) thisen leh taksa tuarna hriatrengna chu a ni.
Chu hnehna ah chuan Pathian nihna/rorelna zawng zawng(Pa, Fapa, TT) chu a lungawi tawh a ni tih thu hi ram tinah hrila, lungawina kim vek hmutu Pa leh Fapa leh Thlarau Thianghlim hminga Baptist turin min tir a ni. Pa dinglama a han á¹hut hnu chuan kan tana á¹anpui turin Pathian á¹hatna famkim leh thiltih theihnaa hna thawk tu Thlarau Thianghlim chu a duh apiangte tana sawm leh koh theihin Pentikos ni ah chuan Fapa chuan min rawn tirh sak ta a ni.
Isua chu sual tiboral tura lokal a nilova, Pa duhzawng leh Thlarau Thianghlim rorelna chanchin hril chunga min ngaidama kan ai tuar tura lokal anih avangin he khawvel ah hian sualna a tiboral lova. Mahse chu sual zia chu Lucifera te thiamloh chantir tu Thlarau Thianghlim bawlhlawh ngaitheilova chuan a ti thei á¹hak si lo, Fapa tirh angin kan zingah chen reng duh á¹hin mahse chu sual avang chuan kan ti vui theia chuvangin “Thlarau Thianghlim chu ti vui suh u” tiin Pathian thu chuan min chah.
Isua chuan kan tan tuarin, kan sualna zawng zawng phurin min ngaidam tawha. Keini en lova Isua en tu Pa Pathian chu Isua tuarnaah lungawi tawh mahse Pa rorelna chuan mihring te hi engtiklaimahin thianghlim leh fel a ti ngai dawn lova, kan felna lai ber pawh pawnchhe hnangkhâi leh pan bawmkhak lûk in ni e ti tu hian ro ala rel leh dawn a.
Isua chu he khawvel ah lokal leh in a beram te chu a rawn hruai anga, Pa hnenah mihring bawlhlawh te chu Amah an á¹ana a thihna leh thawhlehna an á¹awmpui ve avangin an ai Pa hmaah a din sak anga, pawnchhe hnangkhai leh panchhe bawmkhah lûk ang mihring te á¹an nan chuan a kut, a ke leh nâk a ser chu a hmuh tir ang. “Tupawh mi hmaa mi á¹an apiang chu ka Pa van a mi hmaah ka á¹an ve ang” a tih kha.
Chu Isua lo kal lehna tur chu Amah (Fapa) hnenah pawh hriattir in a awm lova roreltu Pa chauh lo chuan a hre lo a ni. Fapa chuan a zawmpui Pa leh Thlarau Thianghlim duhdan a hriat chian angin alo kal leh dawna thil thleng tur chu a sawi lawk thei a, a hun leh ni erawh Pa thu thu a ni a ti.
Aigupta saltang chhuak tawh(Isua tlan tawh) Israel fa te ni mah ila kan kawngka bianga Beramno thisen kan tah loh chuan, mi tha tumah an awm hrelo tu Pathian (Pa) chuan tlan tawh/saltang chhuak kan nih leh nih loh lam a en ve dawn lova, en tlak kan awmloh avangin Beramno thisen kai chu a kalhlen tawp anga, a kailo erawh chu a suat hmiah hmiah mai dawn a ni. Rorelna chu Pa leh Fapa leh Thlarau Thianglim duhdan a rel a ni dawn a ni. Fapa á¹an apiang te chu Thlarau Thianglim awmpui anni anga, chu chu Pa in thiam a chantir ang.
September 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
awle awle..hot leh dawn e. Trinity hian vanram kai leh kai loh hi a hril lo te kan han ti a. Rin dik loh miau chuan Kai loh ve theih viau lo maw le aw..?? HIndu te leh Muslim te pawhin Pathian an nei ve tho va, an ring dik lo ve a ni mai a (kan ngaihdan chuan), mahse Vanram kai turah kan ring bawk silova..Ring diklo leh dik lo te chu.. :-S
September 5th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Trinity chungchang hi kan ngaihtuah thiam a pawimawh reng a ni. Pathian 3 ni lovin, Pathiana minung 3 tihna a ni zawk e.Lala, Thanga pa a ni a, mipa a ni a, Kimi nau a ni bawk tih ang vel a ni mai e. Oness ho khan lo hrethiam teh u’n.
September 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Hei zet chu Thla 2 chhung dawn TRINITY vrs ONENESS group ah kan chai et2 toh mai han sawi tak2 ang u hmiang sawi tur pawh ka hre ve nual in ka ring ani! Nuam dawn mang e
September 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Post tha tak a ni e (Y)
September 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
kan ngaithla teh ang……..2nd
September 5th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Oneness lam pang unau ten han sawi teh u in ngaihdan :-S (Y)
September 5th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Trinity chungchang wikipedia ami hi a kimchang in, a interesting khawp mai.
September 5th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
kan naupan lai khan kan UPC thian te nen kan inhnial thin a, kan la a ve bawk a “Pathian 3 in nei” min ti thin 😛 😀
September 5th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Midel Sai dek an sawi thin kha…
Pakhat in a nawn…
Pakhat in a pum…
Pakhat in a beng..
…an han sawikhawm chiah chu, a hriat a in anglo nuai ta mai a, Sai pakhat dek theuh an ni si….
Chhandamtu Isua ringtu theuh, Bible pakhat pawm theuh te hian..pawm duhlai bik ‘te’ nei lovin – as a whole hian pawm thiam ila a tha tur.
Paula meuh pawhin, “…a kimlo vin kan hria a, a kim lovin thu kan hril bawk thin…chutih hunah erawh chuan mi hriat kim thin angin ka hre kim tawh ang..” a tih kha.
A famkim a lo thlen hunah kan chiang uar mai ang…
Trinity hi chu (Y) Good post. (C)
September 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Trinitarian te khan chhiar teh u,in rinna ah in chiang lo ropui si..fiamthu3
September 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Ka lo tawng nghal teh ang.Pathian hi engtik lai maha hmuh theihloh a ni (john 6:46.1tim 6:16).trinity doctrine ang chuan isua hunlai a mite khan pathian a lawng ngau ngauin an hmu a ni.mak ve tlat!! (H)
September 5th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
#11 @Lta: ” isua hunlai a mite khan pathian a lawng ngau ngauin an hmu a ni.” ka bo map mai keichu 😛 😛 :-S :-S
September 5th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Post-tupa chu i chhut nasat hmel hle mai. Ka buaipui chiam tawh a, ka conclusion ve chu; Trinity hi chu hriar/sawi fiah a har a ni. Pathian Pathianna ril lutuk tak mai hi keini mihringte hriatna famkim lo tak mai hian a chhui chhuak zo ngai lovang. Hrethiam lo mah ila, lungawi taka min pawm tirtu chu – kan hrilhfiah theih vek leh kan hriatthiam vek pathian chu pathian nep tak a ni zawk ang – tih hi a ni. ‘God is Mystery’ a lo ni e.
September 5th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Pa pathian,fapa pathian,thlarauthianghlim pathian.Pathian bik an awmlo,equal vek a biak tur tih a ni.Fapa pathian chu leiah a awm a,khatihlai a mite khan an hmu vek.chhanchu fapa pathian a ni.bible ah erawh pathian an hmu ngailo.bible a kalh phawt.Nge post tupa rilru ah pathian hi literal loin a figurate ti tih a ang ka ti!
September 5th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Han sawi luih luih teh u.
September 5th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
okay okay i see!! han sawi zel teh un!!! ngaihnawm liam2 dawn e POST TUPA khan rawn hnial ta che mawle 😛 😛
September 5th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Kei zawng ka chhiarzo theilo.
Isua kha leia awm lai khan Pathian nilovin Fapa a ni. Pathian chu a takin inhmulo reng ang chu. Ani pawn ka Pa ti tia maw le.
September 5th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
A thu sei pumpui khi a post tu in a chianglo quit thaks. sorry. A chhiartu tan chuan hriatthiam ngaihna a awmlo e. Mahse heihi ani- A chian lohna hi a chianna. Oh sorry, a chian lohna hi a ropuina.
September 5th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
#18 ve vak2 a
September 5th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
#18 ve vak2 khi hi2! mu tha leh rawh se a tho â niang 😉 :-O
September 5th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Pathianah hian minung 3 a awm a ni lova. Minung 1 a awm a, chu2 nihna hrang hrang 3 in a inlan a ni zawk. Thlarau hi tinungtu chu a ni. Pa leh fapa tinungtu chu Thlarau a ni. Tin, trinity ringtu ten intluk tlang an tih fo hi, an intluktlanglo. Fapa aiin Pa chu a ropui zawk a ni. Hriatfiah theihlohna hi a ropuina a nilo. He tikhawpa Pathian ropui, hriatfiah theih tura a rawn inpuanchhuahna hi, A ropuina chu a ni zawk. Pathian hriatfiah theihna hi a nepna a nilo. Ka mite chuan ka hming an hria ang, a ti a. A mite,a ring duhte hnena a inpuanna hi Pathian ropui a nìhna zawk a ni. Ka inthup reng ang hriatloh turin a ti lo reng2. A pathianna, a thil tìhtheihna nasa tak nen lo kal se, tunge khengbet thei ang le? Pathian anga awm chu a thlahlel thei lova.Bawih anga lo piangin a lo inngaitlawm ta zawk a ni. Amahah chuan Pathian famkimna tinreng chu a awm a, taksa nei, lungngai thei, tap thei, riltam thei, thi theiin a lo awm ta a ni. Kha2 mi nung hrang nilovin, mi nung 1 a kha nihna hranin a rawn inlar ta zawk a ni.
September 5th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Johana 15:24 kha han chhiar teh un!!
September 5th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Mitdel sai dapah khan nunna 3 ni lovin, nunna 1 a awm. Sai khan peng hrang2, anmahni theuh a nunna neilo a nei zawk a ni.
September 5th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Pa leh Fapa thu neihna hi awm hrang ta lo se, vantirhkoh bawhchhiatna ngaidam thei si lo khan khati taka a huat, thupek nena nemngheh tlat tawh “In ei ni la la in in thi ang” a tih mihringte tlan tura nasa taka inngaitlawma tuar tura a rawn kal leh ang. Diabola tan chuan thil nuihzathlak tak a ni ang, mahni leh mahni in bawl ta chu.
“Fapa sawi chhia chu ngaihdam theih an ni ang a, Thlarau Thianghlim meih sawi chhia erawh chu ngaihdam an ni lovang” thuneihna hrang nei nilo se mahni leh mahni thu inkalh a ni leh tlat ang.
Isua Krista thisena thiam kan chan tawh hnu ah rorelna la awm leh tur te hi, kan thiam channa chu ava khingbai em a tih theih awm e.
September 5th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Kan buai tak tak lai chuan “mi 2, 3 ni ila awww…pakhat chumi khami lo ti turin, pakhat chumi chu…” te kan ti á¹hin a, keimahni vek ni tho turin kan duh veka, midang nise kan ti chuang lo. Khatiang kan duhna ang kha Pathian chuan Amah ah a awm tir thei tlat a, thilsiam tamtak form in anglo engemaw zah a siama, chumi chu ama rilru ang zelin a ni a siam, chutiang chungah chuan mi pathum ni ila aw kn tih ang kha amah vek atangin a chhuah tir a ni mai. Chu chuan a famkimna a entir a ni.
September 5th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Ka thianpa hnenah, ‘Nangni chu pathian malsawmna in dawng nasa hle mai, I tangtai nasa aniang’, kan ti dek dek chu. ‘Keini te chu direct in kan thlen alawm, nangni chu an la han inrawn te te anga, pakhatin remtilo ta se, in tawngtaina kha a thlawn mai dawn a sin’, a ti 😛
September 5th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
kawmen chhiar a nuam tran..,
September 5th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
post tha e, inhnialna tawp theilo, ala kawi lui duhtan chuan lak kawih theih zel mai
September 5th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Kolossa 2:9!!
September 5th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
#29 I Bible chang rawn dah hi han chhiar zawm zel teh ‘amah kaithotu Pathian hnathawh….’
September 5th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
tan bik ka nei si lo ahhhh! han in khuai nuai teh uu (Y) (Y)
September 5th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
He lam lo zawk post ni se a hot zawk ang mole…
September 5th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
chu chiah! lehlam side nise :-S
September 5th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
A ngaihnawm hle mai a. Kuhva ang hian tehkhin a rem ve riau a sin. Kuhva rah a awm a, Panhnah, Chinai, chung inbelhbawm chu Kuhva a lo ni ta a. Pakhat hi awm lo ta se kuhva a tling mang lo va, tin a hlang chuan an tui lo vek a, Pawimawhna an nei hrang theuh a nih chu. An inbelhbawma a lo tui ta em em a, kan nghei thei lo vel a. Pathianah hian ‘Minung Pathum’ te hi intluk vek, mahse hnathawh inang lo thah…an ni mai lo maw 😉
September 5th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
#21 beer_seba, Pathian inpuanna hi hriat theih chin chu kan nei ve bawk a lawm, kan mamawh tawk ang zelin. Mahse, tuna ka sawiho lai hi chu Pathian nihna ril tak mai ‘Trinity’ chung chang a ni a. Church History han chhiar pawh hian ‘Trinity’ hrilhfiahna chiangkuang tak a awmin ka hre lo. Pathian pakhatah minung pathum a awm tih erawh hi chu Kohhran pa-te ho pawh khan an pawm tlang viau thung. Pathian hmangaihna Isua Krista kal tlanga rawn inpuang chhuak pawh hi lo piantharpui hialtu tan pawh hriat chhuah vek sen rual a ni lo. Pathian ropui zia/ a Pathian zia hi 100 ah 100 ni se, mihringte hriat theih chin hi 100 ah 1 pawh a tling zo kher ang em le? Mihring finna hi a sang tawh hle-in a lang a, mahse Pathian finna thuk zia leh zirtur kan la ngah zia hi a lang chiang tulh tulh zawk a ni lo’m ni? Pathian nihna sawi nan a ‘Trinity’ pawm-awm ka tihna lai ber pawh a ‘mystery’ na lai tak hi a la ni fan e.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Kan unau te hian “Isua (chauh) hi Pathian ani” an ti teh fo a…Isua kha kraws a an khenbeh lai khan “Ka Pa, engahnge min kal san” te kha a ti bawk si a. He ta ‘Ka pa’ atih hi tunnge ni ve ta ang le?
September 5th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Isuan tu pawn mi do loh chuan ka lama tanga ani a tih tawh ahnu hi ngati nge KOHRAN thenkhat te hian KOHRAN dang an neih hian an nu leh pa te thleng2 a an lo phuar thin. Tin trinity chung changah hi chuan a then pawh kan hre lo tih hi keipawh ka thu tlukna ani, inhnial vak ngaihna ka hre lo. Tanchhan tur bible ah a awm ve2 tlat bawk si.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
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September 5th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Post tha khawp mai…thumbs up.
September 6th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Joba Setana’n khawih a dil khan Pathian khan a phal a, a nunna chiah khawih a phallo. He metaphor hi a ril em em mai a, Kristiante thurin ah hian chatuan nunna hawlh chiah Setana khawih phal a ni lo, chu chu Isua a thi a, a tho leh a, a lokal leh dawn tih hi.(gist). Thurin dang zawng zawng te hi chu Setana suasam kual velvei hnu vek anni.Rin pawh a sual duai chuanglo, rinloh pawh a sualduai chuanglo. Kei chuan Trinity, Unity, Oneness tihte hi ka ringlo vek. A inpuanna hnam Juda ho rindan khu ka duhtawk teu tau khawp mai. Messia an hai hrih, Pathian YHWH esher YHWH chu an hai lul lo ve.
El, Eliohim tih hi Greek tawng a Theos tih a nih khan a dynamic value a inang tawhlo, Sap tawng a God tih a nih in a hloh leh zual, Mizo tawng a pathian tih a nih in a hloh belh leh bawk. Ka sawi awmzia chu Kistian an(Greek & English) leh kan (Mizo) nihhma a pathian diklo leh rindan diklo kan lo neih sa khan a adulterate zel tihna a ni e. Vai hmasa ber chu Greek scholars ho kha anni. A hnam ang chuan Sap ho an vai na hi a ngawng a zau ber. An chanchintha putdarh hian an aduteration an pu darh ve zel si a. Judae-Christian tarmit atanga thlirloh chuan a fiah ngailo ang.
September 6th, 2011 at 7:03 am
UMMMMM….. Ka sawi ve hma in in lo tiak hman a ni maw????? Pawi lo, sap in better late than never an tih kha maw…. Oneness ring tlat tute hi chuan kan bible hi an pawm famkim lo deuh a ni tih a chiang e…. Seventh Dat (Sabath) serh tute ai mahin an la chiang lo zawk in ka hria…… ve tlat mai a…
September 6th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Ulukly in a diagram khi zir ang:- Father=1, Son:-1, Spirit=1, a laia God=1. khai a, trinity alo ni hleinem mawle, fornity ti tawh ang u.
September 6th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
#41,nge bible contradict a nihna.OT god hi chiang la chuan trinity hi i awi vak lo ang!
September 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
@ltachhakchhuak: Post khi uluk deuhin han chhiar ve teh, i ngaihdan nilo lai te kan share dun dawnnia.
September 6th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Question ka pe che,hei hi:(1).pathian pakhat tih hi OT hian numerical angin nge figurate angin a sawi?(2)’pakhat nisi sawi hran an ngaihna’tih tifiah turin refer ka duh bible atang?(3)equal a rin/biak tur tih leh ropui/chungnung bik an awmlo tih hi khawi refer nge inhman?(4)i theology hi Lalchunglura sailo trinity nen a inang khawp mai,reference ah i hmang a ni lo maw? (E)
September 6th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
(1)Pathian awmdan ka mitthla thiam lova, khawvel mathematics chhiar dan leh Physical dimension nei ang phei cuan khawi kipa awm thei phei cu ka mitthla thiamlo lehzual. Mihring tan A hmel hmuh chu thihna ani bawk a. Amah nena kan inzawmna Isua Pathian pakhat hi mihring tisa angin pakhat in ka kawm theih turin ka mitthla á¹hin.
(2)&(3) Mt 3:16, Mt 28:19, 2 Cor 13:14, John 3:16, John 15:15, Mt 11:27, Galatia 1:1, 2 Pet 1:1, Mark 13:32, Mt 24:36, Act 5:3,1 Cor 2:11-16, 1 Cor 3:16, Hebrews 1:14, 1Cor. 12:8-10. adt.
Isuan phuba lak leh mihring hremna lam hna a thawk ngai lo, Pathian Hmangaihna tâwp a nung a ni, tumah a ti na ngai lo. Thuthlung hlui ah hnamdang leh hnamdang, chi in anglo inkar Hmangaihna kan hmu tlem hle laiin Isua thuchah ken leh nun pumpui chu Hmangaihna a ni. Pathian Hmangaihna nung a ni, phuba a la ngai lo, phuba lak rorelna chu Pa kut ah a ni. John 3:26 te hi enge mihring a din chhan chu a hriat mai. Isua chhandam kan nih tawh hnu ah engvangin nge rorelna kan hmachhawn ala á¹ul, chhandamna a bo thei tih ah kan á¹uan mai dawn em ni?
Pa hnen ah ka la á¹an ve ang,…. Keimaha kal lo chu tumah Pa hnen an thleng ngai lo….heng te hi rorelna hran awm lo se sawi hran hi enge a awmzia ni ang.
Thlarauthianghlim in a chhui chhuaka suahsualna a hai langin a hrem á¹hin. Israel fa te Kalhlen Kût hman ah a hnathawh dan chu a hriat, mihring a thliar hrang lova, Pathian tirh angin fa tir hrim2 sual a hmuh chu a ti hlum vek. Israel fa te poh chhui tlak an awm dawn si lova chuvangin Pathianin an in Guard nan kawngka bianga thisen tah tur a tia ni. Chu chuan Isua in Thlarau Thianghlim hmanga chhui kan nih hunah min Guard dawn tih a en tir.
(4) Ka hriat vawikhatna nih chu, ka reference chu ka Bible kawm aá¹ang leh Oneness ring chhungkua leh Trinity ring chhungkua aá¹anga Kohhran ka zawm ve ve tawhna aá¹ang a ni.
September 6th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Ka rin aiin in buaipui tlat. Isua khan, amah leh amah “ka Pa” ti a a in auh a in auh in ring reng reng a mawni le aw? Van ami lah khan, “Hei hi ka fapa duh tak” a rawn ti fo bawk si. Mihringte bum nan ventriloquism hmang a lem an chan mai mai in ring a mi? Mihringa taksa, rilru, thlarau kan tih ang hi chu a ni tlat lo. Pathian chuan, ka nupui nen hian, “Tisa pumkhat” min ti tlats. Hrethiams?
September 6th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
(1)Isua leh pa hi pathian pakhat an nih dan hi OT a pathian pakhat,speech of figure nen a in ang i ti em?(2)TT hi pathian atanga chhuak thlarau enkawl tu i ti a,Fapa hi pathian atanga chhuak hmangaihna,mihringte enkawltu i ti leh a.Creation 6day ah mihring hi siam ve chauh an ni.Persons ni ta se,fapa aiin TT siam hmasak a ni.Mahse bible ah TT ai hian fapa chu siam hmasak a ni tur a sin(thilsiam zawng zawnga siam hmasak ber a ni).I sawi ang hi ni ta zel se pathian hmangaihna hi a delay hret tihna a ni bawk!?
September 6th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
#48@ltachhakchhuak_ Fapa hi siam a ni lova, TT pawh siam a ni lo, Pathian nihna Amaha awmsa a rorelnaa iná¹hen hranga, chatuana nung reng tur ang zawkin a ni kei chuan ka sawi. “Pa keimaha awm leh Pa a ka awm chu…” a tih ang khan, pumkhat ze hran ah ka ngai.
Pathian define hi thil zawng zawnga har ber anih ka ring a, heng minung 3 awm rinna pawh hi chiang fak hmuh tur a awmlo. A rorelna leh Bible a heng hming pathum sawitel a nih fo avang te hian ngaihdan zau zawk min siama, Tirhkoh Paula’n a lehkhathawn tawp lama a Address ziah pawh hian ngaihtuahna chu min pe ve bawk.
Isua Pathian anihna kan sawi bo lova, kan sawi nep chuanglo.
September 6th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Tehkhinna fiah lo mahse minung 3 awm chhan ni a ka rin kan pe chhin ange.
I rilru hah a tihtur i ngah lai chuan “mi pa 3 ni ila aww..pakhat hian ka sas hi a duh ang takin lo care sela, chu chu thildanga buai lo turin Hmangaihna kengtu nise. Pakhat hian lehkha zir ila, pakhat hi khawtlangah in hmang ila, intibuai miah lovin k indaih vek tur” tih ngaihtuah chang i nei ve á¹hin ang ka ring. I ngaihzawng va nei tur khan midang emaw i unaupa takngial pawh nise duh chuang lo ang. Nangmah vek nitho si khan thil hran á¹heuh ti turin i duh a ni. Chutiang chuan Pathian a awm theia, keini hi Krista mo tiin min ko taa, a sas ang kan nih chu (fth). A hmangaihnaa din leh siam kan ni a, vana mite nena rorelna hmunkhat lo deuha siam chu kan ni lawm.
Vantirhkoh ngaihdam theihloh laia ngaihdam kan nih theih bik dan te hi. Pathian zia iná¹hena rorelna hran loh chuan a inkawlkalh tlat lo maw. Isua tlan tawh hnu nisi a rorelna hmaa á¹an chawp kan la ngai tur te hi, tu hnenah leh tu á¹an tur nge ni ang? mi pa 1 amah leh amah in rorelin thiamthu a sawi pui thei dawn em ni.
September 6th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Trinity leh oneness/unity hi in hnial theih tak, mahse sawifiah har tak a ni. theologian tam tak in an lo buaipui tawh a bible pum han chhiar hian trinity hi kei mimal ah chuan ka pawm thlap a A chhan chu fapa, TT ,PA tih hi phuah chawp ni miah lo in an awm ngei mahse trinity ring tu te hi pathian 3 ring tu te kan ni lem lo. A bawplawk ah pathian 3 ring tu in tih tur poh a ni lo. KA SAWI DUH CHU KUM SANG KRISTIAN TE IN HNIAL NA HI HE SITE A TANG A SAWIFEL MAI CHI A NI LO. Thuthlung thar ang a fapa Isua rin mai hi kan tih tur a ni e. Chu fapa chu chhandam nan Pa ruat a ni si a.
September 6th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Pathian tih hian religion dang te pawn an nei vek mai.juda te pathian erawh hebrew tawngin YHWH tih a ni a,adonai vowel leh cönsonant inpawlha lamin yehovah(jehovah)tih a ni.Hming serh a nih vang erawhin a aiah capital letter-in ‘LORD’ tih a ziah thin a ni.Plural suffix nei,singular verb ldh adjective a ni bawk.Numerical one(nupa inpumkha-figurative speech lam a kawk lo)a ni a.Majestic plural(jehovah yahweh,jehovah shammah,jehovah rapha,jehovah tsidkenu etc)nei a ni bawk.Aramaic YHVH an ti thung.yod phonetics a ni a,numerical one tho a ni(num 14:17,lev 27:32).’Jehovah pakhat chiah a awm a,thil engkim siamtu..(malakia)’.Persons nise isua leh TT hi pathian tih ve tawh tur a nilo!’LORD jesus’ tih leh OT ‘LORD’ hi pakhat tak tak a ni.Separate niloin,YHWH ngei chu.mahse human level a alo kal a ngai thung.Engvang nge-‘isua ah engkim create vek a ni(kol 1:16),isua hi alpha and omega(rev 1:17-18).’YHWH pawh chuan’kei hi LALPA,mahni chauha van kai pharh tu chu(isai 44:24).Heta tang hian Jehovah chu isua hi a ni tih a ti lang.ATANG A CHHUAK tih hian setan,gabriel,angels,human etc kan ni vek.Pumkhat kan ni.mahse pakhat kan nihna hi OT numerical one ang a ni lo!Pathian hi Pakhat tak tak a awm,amahah minung dang niloin emaw an nihna pathianah pakhat tihna a nilo e!