Ngaihtuahna neite tan..

September 14th, 2011 10:44 pm by no_nick

Ngaihtuahna mak a nih leh nih loh chu sawithiam a har.  “Religion (Sakhua) lampang ah hian ka tui vak hran lo na a, ka bul vel a mi te, ka thiante leh ka chhung hnai te chuan an pawm thlap maithei. An rinna a dik leh dikloh lam sawi ka tum lo.. Mahse ka rilru confused tak mai hi ka dahtha mai thei silo. Tun kar chhova ka rilru a awm reng mai chu, “Sawifiah tum dawn ta ila, ka ngaituahna min hriatthiampui thei an awm ang em?” tih hi a ni.

Thil engkim lo intan dan (Genesis) hi sawi tel lo ang. A nihna dik takah chuan tuman kan hrelo. Kan rindan mai mai ani.”Engtin nge thil nung a lo awm?” tihvel kha chu in rilru ah lo ngaihtuah mai ula, in ngaihtuahna chu in lo dahtha dawn nia.

Khawvelah hian religion 4000- 5000(approx) vel a awm an ti a. Heng religion chi hrang hrang te hi an mahni theuhvin script an nei a, leh an rindan ang zelin khawvel pian dan leh nunna lo awm tan dan an sawifiah a, mahni sakhua an pawm em em vek bawk a. Ka rinna (read sakhua) hi a dik ber an ti vek bawk. Hindu emaw, Budhhist or Islam or eng sakhua pawh hian kan rinna (belief) hi a dik ber an tih chuan chumi sakhaw ringlotute chuan an ring sual der tihna a ni dawn bawk a. A dik ber hi a awm lo tihna anih chu.

Christian(approx 33% of world population) hian kan rinna a dik ber a tih chuan, midang 77% chuan ram ropui an thleng ve dawn lo tihna a ni bawk a. Chutiang zelin Islam (approx 23% population of the world) hian dik berah in chhal ve ta se, 87% ho chu Islam ho meidil ah kan tla dawn tihna a nih chu. Ka sawi tum ber chu “Ka sakhaw rin lai hi a dik ber?” ti a inchhal thei tumah kan awm lo tih hi a ni. Sakhua ka sawiselna ah ngai lo ila, Mihring hian “religion-based” a rindan kan siam hi mak ka ti tawp theilo ka ti tihna a ni ber ang chu.

Ngaihtuahna mak tak tak a lo lut a, a dik ber zawn tumna rilru a a lo lang ta tlat mai.

Ka thianpa nen kan thu dun a, kan sawi hnem khawp mai.. Ka thianpa chuan “I am sure, religion is just a form of propaganda” a ti tlat mai. ‘ I have thought about all this long back, and now I am certain, I stopped thinking” a ti zui bawk a. Ka pawm khawp mai. “God may or may not exist but Religion is definitely fake, it’s a propaganda by which some people tries to rule the world. It’s a political way of grouping mankind. It helps during War. And if you look at history religions are spread to prepare for wars” tih ah hian kan ngaihdan a inmil riauin ka hre bawk.

Ka thianpa chungchang hi tlem kan sawi tel ve mai mai anga.. College kan luh tantir atanga ka hriat ani a. Kum 10 chuang kan inhmelhriat tawh a. Kerala Christian chhungkua a piang a ni. Thil hre tak leh ngaihtuah thui tak mi a ni tih hi ka hmuhdan a ni a. Sum ngah viau mahse inchei ve vak ngai hauh lo a. Kawr pair hnih vel lek a nei a, pheikhawk bun khat leh chapal pakhat a nei bawk a. Kum 5 chhung hian incheina kawr etc a lei ka hriat chu vawi hnih chiah a ni. A uikawm ti dawn ila, a uikawm lo tih hrechiang ber tu ka ni bawk sia.

Incheina aiin lehkhabu a lei hnem zawk a. Hna kan thawh tan tirh (2007 vel) atang khan Lekhabu 300 chuang leiin a chhiar zo vek tawh tih min hrilh a. Lekhabu hi a duhtui hle thung. Duplicate (kawng laia pirated an zawrh) ang te hi a lei duh miah lova. To deuh mahse Odyssey, Crossword tihvel atang kher original copy a lei thin a ni. Hei bakah hian college kan kal lai chuan Internet hmangin Google books a chhiar hnem hle tih ka hre bawk.

A thupuiah lut leh ta ila…

Midang sawi vangin engkim hi kan pawm zel mai dawn em ni? Eng lehkhabu emaw chhiar vanga ngaihdan neih ve mai mai te hi awmzia a nei lo tan tlat mai. Ngaituahna ti thui tu atan erawh a tha. Midang ngaihdan hian perspective min pe a, An ngaihdan tawmpui tawp hmain, chu perspective hmang chuan mahni ngaihdan kan siam ve hi a pawimawh. Karl Marx lehkhabu chhiar vanga Communist Ideology pawm ve tawp a, a tukah Ayn Rand ( Capitalism ) chhiar leh a, pawm leh tho bawk kan nih chuan kan ngaihtuahna hian enge awmzia a neih? “Mihringte hian mahni in rindan kan siam theilo ami?” tih hi ka zawhna lo ni bawk se. Midang ten sakhua an siam a, kan zawm ve leh tawp a. Midang ngaihtuahna leh midang rindan kan “subscribe” tihna a ni mai lo maw?

Religion leh philosophy hi kan thliar hrang thiam a pawimawh. Religion leh philosophy kan thliar hrang theih hunah chuan “Absolute Freedom” kan hrethiam thei chauh ang. Absolute Freedom kan neih hunah chuan hlauh a awm tawh lovang. Supernatural Power a awm tlat a hriatna avanga hlauhna rilru kan nei thin te hi a a bo hlen tawh dawn.

(Tunah chuan hei hi ka duhtawk phawt ange. Thut khawm a sawiho thei ila, confused tak tak in awm ve tho ka ring… )

138 Responses to “Ngaihtuahna neite tan..”

  1. 1
    ninja Says:

    Chhiar i1a

  2. 2
    TuaiSialA Says:

    Post dang kan chang chhuak ta hram e.

  3. 3
    kawlhawk Says:

    Thluak fim hunah kawmen zawk teh ang 🙂

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    troxx Says:

    God may or may not exist but Religion is definitely fake, It’s a propaganda by which some people tries to rule the world. It’s a political way of grouping mankind …. Hei hi chu i thianpa ngaihtuahdan chu a felhlel deuh hlek lo maw ??? Chhui chiang deuh teh

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    zoelife Says:

    i subject hi a tha hle mai, i email min lo hrilh thei em? lehkhabu ka rawn thawn duh mai thei che a, hemi kawnga tanpui thei tur hi. hemi rawn respond duh vang hian he website hi ka rawn zawm ve chiah ani.

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    lr hlonchhing Says:

    Chhiar tur dang kan nei ta hram e. Mahse, keizawng sawi tur ka haihchham tlat. Ka mawl fal mai ang.
    Mahse, gud post…

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    Mx Says:

    hei zet zawng ka lo ngaihtuah ve fo thin leh ka confused em em thil ava ni chiang em!
    Han sawi vak tur erawh ka hrelo. Mahni aia fing leh mithiam pui2 awmna ah hi chuan a ngaithlatu ni rih mai teh ang 🙂 In comment te ka lo thlir reng e.. 🙂 😀
    Misual rual thil hre tak2 leh fing tak tak te ngaihdan ka hrechak ani…

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    zoelife Says:

    kei chu ka tuipui ber te zinga mi ani ve tlat mai. Christianity hi Religion piah lam daih ani a, khawvela sakhaw pawl hrang hrangte rin dan hi religion ah a innghat vek a, Christianna erawh hi chu chu mi opposite chu a ni a, rinna avanga dawnfiah leh chanfiah chi a ni thung.

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    BlAdE@ Says:

    Mihring finna hi chuan angaituah chhuak ngai lovang. Thlarau lama hriatfiah chi a ni.

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    rohlupuia chalrang Says:

    Isawi tumber (nia isawi] …….”ka sakhaw rinlai hi adik ber” ti a inchhal thei tumah kan awmlo….. itih hi keini kristiante chuan kan pawmlo hulhual.. (N). I thianpain sakhua chu ngaihdan thehlarna atih hi chu adikna lai a awm alawm..

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    zoho Says:

    I subject tuilohna a ni bawk a, i hretlem bawk a, i chhiar tlem bawk a, delusion in a hualvel nasa hle mai che. Ngainep leh deu lam a ka sawisel che a ni miahlo a nia aw. Ka tarmit a i landan ni miau hek.
    1. Religion hi a tenawm a, a divine lo bawk.
    2. Religion hi Pathian institution a ni lo, Mankind search for God endorse by the Deceiver a ni zawk.
    3. Eden huan ah khan Pathian in religion hi din a tum reng reng lo.
    4. Isua khan religion thar hmuhchhuah leh din a tum reng reng lo,Isua game kha politics a ni zawk. Zirtir te kha religious leaders nih an tum reng reng lo, Cabinet Ministers anni dawn emaw an inti zawk.
    5. True Christianity hi religion a ni lo, mankind search for God a ni ve lo, God’s rescue Plan a ni zawk. Chu chu Setan’n hun a lo liam in a hruaitute ah power game a play tir a, religious institution ah an rawn chhuah ta zawk a ni.
    6. Ka religious lo khawp mai. Religiousity hi ka hne,bumna a tam lutuk, a tenawm bawk. YHWH betu diktak ka ni e. Be velo leh hre velo te chatuan hremna tih vel hi bumna mai mai a ni bawk. Duhtawk phawt.
    Tah hian lo lut ve teh.
    http://www.facebook.com/groups/godnscience/

  12. 12
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Sakhua sakhua sawi hranlo, Pathian awm ringa nuntha nung te tana pawl zawm theih, mahse member nih harsa lutuk mai hi ka rawn introduce dawn em ni hairehai 🙂

    Khawvel ram hruaitu ropui tak2 eg: Washington etc. te leh mi ropui tak2 te member lo nihna thin anih hi. Dilna thehluh hnuah senior deacon ten inah an rawn len chilh a, an chhungkaw cc an zir hrep a, an nunzia leh an life history theih angin an chhui leh nek phawt a. Chutih laiin Solomons chanchin nasa takin an zir a…

    Google ah khan “Who are the Free Masons” tiin lo zawn chhunzawm tawh mai ru. An member nih dilna form kan tar hram ang e:

    http://i53.tinypic.com/334214g.jpg

    http://i52.tinypic.com/2q3q1z7.jpg

    hairehai 😉

  13. 13
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    #12 ami zawmna:

    Ka kawr awm ami 😀
    http://i54.tinypic.com/2rwq3kn.jpg

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    century child Says:

    Ka hul.

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    Vetehmial Says:

    I sawi ang mi,lekhabu chhiar ang apianga rin ti danglam zung zung ang khi ka ni ve lo tlat…i chianglo ema i buai anih hi…ngaihtuah awmlohtak zawng anilo maithei.

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    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Rawn tangulh an la pung dawn chauh ang a 😛

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    TuaiSialA Says:

    Ka chhiarchhuak thlap a. Kristian emaw, Muslim emaw, sakhaw biak hrim hrim nei chuan an kalh vek dawn che a nih khi. Sakhua hi eng vanga lo awm nge, eng nge a awm a tulna chhan chu midangin an rawn chhang tur che-ah ka ngai. Ka lawm e. Ka hul bawk e.

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    chhangteval Says:

    Pu zoho i va reh ve??

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    zoho Says:

    Pu HV leh… hairehai

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URVtNSQBYtQ

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    no_nick Says:

    @zoelife 5: nonick_login@yahoo.com
    @zoho: hetiang thil hi chhiar hnem vanga hre bik a awm theih ka ring tawh lo.. delusion chu ka ti ngam ciah lo.. confusion ti dawn ila a dik hlel maithei bawk.

    mahni a ngaihtuah chhuah theih a rinna ka nei tan tlat… mihring hian Pathian a rin chuan a ring bur mai a.. a engzawng pawn explain mahla a harsa viau maithei.. chutiang deuh ciah cuan rindan ka rilru ah a insiam a ni. chu rindan chu lekhabu ka chhiar hnem le h hnem lovah a inghat lova.. ka rilru cuak liau2

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    zoho Says:

    @Chhangteval, nia fb ah kan in chapchar nasa thin em a ni e. (H) rawn telve peih tan aw
    http://www.facebook.com/groups/godnscience/

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/Areiospagos/

  22. 22
    Silver Oak Says:

    Ka chhiarchuak talo mai naktukah aw.

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    Pingpih Says:

    Kei chu ka rin Pathian ah hian ka chiang e. Sawi tam lo mai ang. He post hian inhnialna atthlak a chawkchhuak dawn in ka hre tlat.

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    rohlupuia chalrang Says:

    #23, sakhawdang betuten [kan tawng] an hrethiam ngut awm silo a, hrethiam pawh nise hetah hi chuan min hnial awm silo a, inhnialpuitur an awmlovang.. keini cu kan chiang ani lo`m ni.

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    rohlupuia chalrang Says:

    Tihian titeh ang. #23, sakhawdang betuten [kan tawng] an hrethiam ngut awm silo a, hrethiam pawh nise hetah hi chuan min hnial awm silo a, inhnialpuitur an awmlovang.. keini cu kan chiang ani lo`m ni.

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    Mx Says:

    ‘Pathian hi a awm tak tak ka ring lo’ ka tihna ah minlo ngaihsak lo ula, ka ngaihtuah ve fo chu Mizoramah hian piang lo ila, Kristian ka ni kher angem aw? Kristian awmlohna ah te lo piang ta ila Sakhaw dang engemaw ber ah hian “ka sakhaw vawn hi a dik ber” ti in kristian leh sakhaw thenkhat hi nuihzat in kan pawmlo hulhual ve mai lo’ng maw? tuna hindu, muslim adt kan ngaih ang vel hian.. ngaihtuah tham fe ani tlat ani.

    He thilah kher hi chuan chhiar hnem avang leh tawn hnem avanga a dik ber hriat hi thil awmthei anih ka ringlo! He khawvel upat tawh dan ringawt pawh sakhaw hrang2 rindan a inang silo. Tin, dilchhut taka ngaihtuah apiang an confuse ka ring tlat! Ngaihtuah chian em em loh chuan mi tamtak chuan thil lawilo mai2, kristian na a chianglo ho buaina awmtawk te pawh kan tih ka ring. Mahse keizawng hriatthiam har ka ti ani. Achang phei chuan ngaihtuah loh tawp te hi tha ber in ka hria.

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    Mx Says:

    Tin, Hriat hnuhnung apiang leh chhiar hnuhnun apiang awih zel mi tan chuan mahni awmna ram a majority religion ah “ka chiang tawk em em” kan tih theuh zawk ka ring.!!

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    3d Says:

    Pathian a om lo. Full stop.

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    bangbong Says:

    nuihzathlak ngawt mai… ngaihtuah vak vak a awl a… han ngaihtuah tam pauh leh a mak jual pauh a…. mihring hian thil kan hre tlem lutuk hi… mizo val veleh chhawng phei chu… chuvang chuan fel taka nun a mi tan tanpuitu malsawmtu ni hi kan tih theih chhun. keimahni chauh kan dik or a ni saw an dik meidil ah a tla dawn tih vel mai mai a hun khawh ral hi awmzia a awm lo ang.

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    zodaifim Says:

    Pathian a awma…Sakhua pawh ahnam thlan Juda ho a pe a,abak keini kristian muslim hindu tih vel hi chu min pek ka hreve tawh lo…Mahni rindan in kan kal anih ber hi… 😛

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    Alanism theory Says:

    Lehkhabu tam tak chhiar hi tisa chauhna mai a lo ni.Expirience te,lehkhabu atanga hriat leh mi thusawi atanga kan hriatte tel lo hian ngaihtuahna hi engchen nge a kal ang aw? tia ngaihtuah chang ka nei.Bible tel lo chuan metaphysic lam hi chu confi taka ngaihtuah a har ka ti,kei misual hretlem hian.The problem of verification a ni e,logical positivist ho ngaihdan(metaphysical conclusion) ka tawmpui lo.Kan thil hriat sa te hi suangtuahna ah han combine ila,a lem duh khawp mai.Pathian erawh chu a awm chiangin ka ring thung si.Pathian duhzawng tih mai hi he leiah hian pawimawh ka ti.Tawk teh se.

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    piangmama Says:

    Dam chhan leh inthlamuanna ngelnghet tak i nei thei dawn lo anih hi. Hetiang ang tan hi chuan nun hi engmah lo mai a ni. Hla ka lo thlan sak ang che: ” A REI NA CHU THAWHRIMNA”

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    jin Says:

    Kei pawh ka ngaihtuah fo thin a ni. Mifing tan chuan engkim hi ngaihtuah a ngai thin reng a ni rin/pawm ve ngawt hma in. Chuan a chhiartute hian kristian perspective ni lovin general perspective angin thlir ila kan hriatthiampui thei ngei ang.

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    keimah Says:

    Mihringin khawvel finna (sakhua) hmanga Pathian an zawn hmuh theih loh laiin, Pathian zawkin a Fapa Lal Isua hmangin min rawn zawng chhuak a, chumi chanchin chu khawvel mite chuan “thu hril atthlak” an ti a, mahse chu ngei chu mite chhandamna tura Pathian thiltihtheihna a ni tlat! (Rom 1:16, 1 Kor. 1: 18, 21 te kha lo chhiar teh)

    @no_nick, Pathian hi a zira zir fiah phak a ni lo va, a rina rin fiah chi a ni e. ISUA KRISTA hi i Lal leh Chhandamtu atan han nei chiah la i hre chiang mai ang. Tuna i buaina zawng zawng hi Thlarau Thianghlimin a hrilhfiah vek mai ang che.

    Kristianna hi sakhua lekah i ngai a nih pawhin KRISTA zawk hi han bel chiang la, i chapona kha dah tha la, inngaitlawm takin a hnenah han tlu lut chiah teh…dawt ni lovin THUTAK i hre duh a nih chuan!

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    Pc-a Says:

    Keini ang mirilrusangin kan ngaihvedan chuan. ‘Pathianin, khawvel a hmangaih em avangin a fapa mal neihchhun a pe a.’ Tupawh…..Isuan a nghakreng che, nang misualpa.

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    Pc-a Says:

    King of King

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    PKfanai Says:

    Hindu Philosophy hi thiam takin in rawn vawrhchhuak ve fo mai a. Ramakrishna Mission School leh Vevekananda Kendrya Vidyalaya School chhuak ho ngaihtuahna awm lek a nih hi. Hindu Pluralism rim a nam rem rem e.

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    Art-a Says:

    Cape Canaveral aṭanga moon rocket hmasa ber an kahchhuah ṭum khan US scientist pahnih chuan an thlir reng a. Pakhat chu Xtian a ni a, pakhat zawk atheist. Christian scientist zawk chuan ‘kan rocket chu tihpalh thilthua thlaa a han ṭum tur chu a vanneihthlak teh e tiraw?!!’ a han ti bai bai mai a. Atheist pa ngaihdan a ni lo chiang kher mai. “sum leh tha tamtak sengin kan siam a, ngaihtuahna nasa tak sengin thlaa ṭum tura keimahni design a nih khi” a ti ve hmak mai a ni.

    Ni… thlaa ṭum tur rocket tetakte mah siamtu awm lova thlaa a ṭum theih ring lo khan Universe leh a chhunga thil awm zawng zawng, rocket siamtu te nen lam pawha siamtu Pathian awm an ring lo hi eng nge a chhan ni thei ang? A nih loh leh zun-in banga ‘E suh’ tih inziak kan hmuh hian a ziaktu awm lovin thliin emaw, ruah, nisa, vaivut leng velin emaw a thai ran mai maiah kan ring em? Ring lo.. fel taka a inrem khawm dan aṭang hian ziaktu/remkhawmtu (designer) a awm a ni tih kan hre mai a ni.

    Mihring taksa ringawt pawh hi han ngaihtuah teh. Mihring taksa inrem khawm dan leh taksa peng hrang hrang hnathawh dan ropui zia hi chu doctorte hian sawitur an hre zawk daih awm e. I thluak te kha tiraw, siamtu awm lova mahni-a inrem khawm mai mai a nih i ring tak tak a maw? Neurologists, brain surgeons leh
    astrophysicists te zingah hian atheist an awm tawh mang bar hleinem!! Eng nge a chhan ni a i rin le?

    Thil hi in ngaihtuah duh tak tak a nih chuan rinthua iak iak lo hian, chhui ve ta che u.. fing in inti viau a ni lawm ni? Thil ngaihtuah tak tak mi, atheist Frank Morrison-a te pawhin Isua thawhlehna kha ringhlein, scientific leh historian rilru puin a chhui chianga, amah zawh kha christian ṭha tak a nih phat lel a nih kha. A lehkhabu ziak “Who Moved the Stone?” tihte phei chu tun thleng hian an la print a sin.

    A lehlamah chuan a ring duh lo ve mawl tawp tan chuan rin loh theihna thlarau hi a awm ve hrim hrim. Isua ngei pawh khan a thilmak tih khan mi tlemte chauh a ni a convince. Sawi tur a tam sawi sen a ni lo. Mahse thil chiang tak pakhat erawh chu Pathian hi a awm leh awm loh thinlung dik tak pu chunga hre duh tan chuan a awm ngei a ni tih hi Pathian hian finfiahna tam tak a dah. Pathian hi a awm a nih chuan chiang takin amah biak dan tur mihringte hi a hrilh ngei ang tih chu thluak tlemte nei vek ik tan chuan chiangsa a ni. Pathian mumal lo leh thil ti mai mai, a thilsiamte awmdan tur leh amah chibai buk dan tur ruahmanna engmah nei lo chu Pathian a ni awm der si lo.

    Chuvang chuan pawn emaw sakhua emaw pawh nise, a dik ber a awm lo i ti hi chu i ti dik lo zawk a ni. DIK BER hi a awm chiang khawp — Isua Krista ringtu dik te hi an dik ber !!

    Atheist turned christian, Paul C. Vitz-a thuziak The Psychology of Atheism tihte hi peih chuan chhiar a tha khawp mai. Tin,
    atheist tho Jean-Paul Sartre pawh khan tihian a lo sawi kha “there comes a time when one asks, even of Shakespeare,
    even of Beethoven, ‘Is that all there is?'” Rin lohna hi kan dem ngawt a ni lo, finfiah/chhui chiang tak tak peih silova rin loh ngawt hi chu hypocrisy dik tak a ni. A chhan chu “Eng lehkhabu emaw chhiar vanga ngaihdan neih ve mai mai te hi awmzia a nei lo tan tlat mai” i tih hian nangmah ngei pawh khan chutiang tho chuan i ti ve tlat a ni. Chu ai mah chuan nang phei chu ila kal thui — hman deuh khan hetiang lam hi i post tawh a, chu chu mi thuziaksa i plagiarize lehnghal a nih kha.

    Lal Isua chanchin hi chhui rawh nasa takin. Tichuan i conclusion chu i rawn post leh dawn nia. Conclusion khal tak chu pahnih chiah a awm thei. Isua kha mi â emaw, mi dawthei, mi bum ching a nih loh chuan, a inchhal ang chiah khan Pathian a ni tih hi. Good luck !!

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    Atom c Says:

    Hei hi ka pawm thlap “….boral mekte tan chuan ^at-na… ” kha… 😉

    Thilmak leh danglam, dik si, dik silo, imagination hmanna tur chi hi chu chhuizui theih tur a tam mai… Eric von Daniken-a theory ah te pawh khan proof na awmthei hrang hrang nen tarlan a ni. A mah chu Pathian ringtu tha lutuk a ni tho…. A taka hmuh theih chiah siloh, theory a chiang em em si hi a tam lutuk…. Ngaihtuah tamloh a him a, ngaihtuahloh tawp erawh a tha ber kherlo thei bawk…ah ka ngai…

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    PKfanai Says:

    Hetiang hi chu John Lennon te pawh khan an tui pui lutuk a lawm. Ani pawh kha Ramakhrishna zitirna khan a influenced ve nasa tlat mai a.Tin, Bible hi a dik ngei a ni tih ringthei lo emaw ringhlel tlat tan chuan, Pianthar tak tak (Pathian hmuhfiah tak tak) theih a ni lo vang. “Imagine there’s no heaven, No Hell below us” ti chunga mahni duh ang ang a Free tak a he khawvela nun thlahlel hi chhiar senloh an awm.

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    Alejendro Says:

    A topic ka en a, in comment ka chhiar a.. a post tu tur ka ring dik nghal 😛

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    no_nick Says:

    @26 superpinqponq : ka thil sawi i man chiang hle mai.. (Y)

    @29 bangbong: Mihrintte hian thil hriat tam vak tur a alo awm reng2 hlei nem..!! thil kan hriat tlem vang a ni chiah lo mai thei…!1 kan hre duhlo a ni mai thei..!! I naupan lai atanga an lo zirtir che kha i pawm tawp a, i ngaihtuah zui loh avanga “a dik ber” a hriatna a awm ani maithei..

    @31 Alanism theory : pathian a awm leh awmloh chu step hnihna ah lo dah ta ila,, step khatna ah chuan Religion concept hi a dikhlel deuh em aww.. tih ngaihtuah hmasa ta ila…!! pathianleh religiona ah hian inlaichinna a nei lo a hriatna ka nei tlat..!! Hei hi mahni suangtuahna liau liau ani. Midang hmin erawh ka tum hran lo…

    32 piangmama I sawi dik.. dam chhan a awm lo i ti mai thei.. religion ka rin loh rual hian “Thih” hlauhna ang chi kha a awm ta miah lo mai.. mak ve deuh asin… Mi thenkhat chuan “Pathian Hria” agana an inhriat hnu ah “thih hlauhlohna” nei anga insawi an awm a.. chutiang chiah chu ka ni..Religion concept hi a lem tih ka hriat rual hian “Thih” hlauhlohna a awm ve tho… In bothe these case the ultimate outcome is same.. and its called Belief..!! ppl belif in religion made God.. I juststarted to belive in smthg else,,,

  43. 43
    no_nick Says:

    @33 jin: nia..generalise deuhva ka ngaihtuah ani a.. sakhaw pakhat example hmanga sawifiah theih chi a ni lo mai thei…

    @34 keimah: huat thu suh ah… I thil sawi khi chu a pawnlang lutuk..!! keimah says: Pathian hi a zira zir fiah phak a ni lo va, a rina rin fiah chi a ni e hetah tak hian i thil rin ang zelin i fiah uar uar tih na ani a.. ka rinna ah hian ka fiah lutuk tlat chuan, tuna i rin avanga i thlamuang ang chiah khan ka thla a muang ve a nia… Leh ka post khi Kristianna nen compare zel lovin a zau zawngin thlir tum hram la..!! Sakhw pakhat chungchang ka sawi miah lo a nia.. target ka nei lo… its justa thoughts..

  44. 44
    no_nick Says:

    37 Pu PKfanai: Hindu Philosophy i tih ringot chuan ka pawm miah lovang..!! A ni lo…! Religion leh Philosophy thliar hrang ta ila.. I hrethiam thei maithei…!! sakhua zawng2 dah bo vek la, chuan chhiar nawn leh la ka ve ti e..

    38 Art-a : I chhiar sual aniang a.. Pathian awm leh awm loh kan sawi awm ka va hre lo.. Religion concept hi ani kan sawi zawk aw…!! Finfiahna chu i rilru ah khan zawng ta che.. Mi in chriastian i ni a tih avanga Jesus i ring tawp a.. I memory kha erase vek theih nise, Zulu ramah zuk dah ta che ila.. Luntum pakhat hi i pathian a ni tih in kum 5 vel hrilh ngor ta che ila.. I pawm ve thovang..!! a awmzia chu Pathian a awm emaw awm lo emaw, Religion hi group siam nana baka hman a ni lo…!! Mihring te then darhna a ni e… tih a ni ka sawi..!! I thil sawi khi e, Christian rilru pu tlat chunga ai sawi anih khi.. Neutral riulru in ngaihtuah ve chhin teh tih hi ka chah duh che..

  45. 45
    Art-a Says:

    no_nick,

    Ka chhiar sual lova, ka argument i man lo zawk a nih hmel e. Ka’n sawi fiah dawn ang e.

    1. Pathian a awm.
    2. Pathian a awm chuan a thilsiamte hnenah a chanchin a hriattir ngei ang.
    3. A in hriattirna chu a dik ngei ang.
    4. A inhriattirna te chu pawl/sakhua dik ber chu a ni.

    no_nick Says:

    “Luntum pakhat hi i pathian a ni tih in kum 5 vel hrilh ngor ta che ila” lolzzz.. i aa deuh em ni? I analogy hi a nuihzatthlak em mai. Lungtum lo kha thil awmang deuh tamtak Pathian tiin min hrilh se, a ni thei awm deuh chu kan zawng ve ang chu… thil awm leh awm lo hi a awm ve a nia. Kristianna ngawr hi min zirtirna a ni bik lo tih hi lo hre teh khai.

    Tin ka thilsawi khi Christian rilru pu tlat chung ni lovin, theistic argument a nih khi.. ‘chuan theism atangin ‘a dik ber a awm lo’ i tih avangin Isua Krista zuitute hi an dik ber tiin rawn sum up mai a ni zawk.

  46. 46
    Chhuaklinga Says:

    A then pawh kan hre lo he luikam atang hian.

    Engkim dintu leh an zavai setana nen lam chunga thuneitu Abrahama Pathian, Isaka Pathian, Jakoba Pathian tunthlenga la pangngai reng hi ka Pathian a ni, kei chu.

  47. 47
    Art-a Says:

    PK-a i chhanna khi .. 😛

    Religion leh Philosophy chu han thliar hrang dawn teh reng.

  48. 48
    Mx Says:

    Post tupa comment #44 hi ka ‘SUPERLIKE’ e..
    Kristianna rilru pu ran chung a he thil hi in thlir anih chuan he ngaihdan hi atthlak mai ani dawn!
    comment#38 Art, i thil rawn sawi te khi adik viau, mahse he post awmzia hi i man thelh chiang hle tih i comment atang khian a chiang..
    Comment dang ho atang pawh In thil rawn sawi ho khi he ngaihdan hi a diklo ani tih proof nan a laktlak pakhatmah ka hmu lo ve!! Proof chi poh anilo bawk.

  49. 49
    no_nick Says:

    45 Art-a : I hrethiam ve tan e.. Lungtum rin tawp chu nia a har mai thei.. Mahse, rin tur dang i hriat rih loh chuan I ring rih anga.. thil dang i zawng zel dawn ani..! chu chu e.. theism argument, etc.. chhiar vanga zawn theih leh hriatthiam theih a ni lo..! Lungtum Pathiana i neih dinhmunah chiah khian religios text pathum lo dah ta ila, eg.. Bible, Koran, Gita.. a pathum chuan chhiar zo vek la.. a eng ber nge i zawm ang le? nge a pathum khian i hnawl vek ang tih hi lo ngaihtuah tel leh mai mai dawn nia? or else just anything…!! a awmzia chu khitiang religios text an zirtir vang che a religion neive mai mai i ni.. Pathian a awm leh awm loh lampang nen chuan tehkhin miah suh ang che…

    Art-a says:
    “Lungtum pakhat hi i pathian a ni tih in kum 5 vel hrilh ngor ta che ila” lolzzz.. i aa deuh em ni? I analogy hi a nuihzatthlak em mai. Lungtum lo kha thil awmang deuh tamtak Pathian tiin min hrilh se, a ni thei awm deuh chu kan zawng ve ang chu… thil awm leh awm lo hi a awm ve a nia.

    Thil awm deuh ka zawng mek tihna anih dawn chu..!! Ka expect ang chiah in min lo chhang e…!!

  50. 50
    Asteric™ Says:

    I ṭhianpa chu Religious anilo hrim hrima, lehkhabu tam tam a chhiar avang chuan a chhiar tam loh a sawiselna i pawm ve tawp chu a dik bik lovang.

    Khawvela mihring tam zawk hi kan sakhaw mi lo, eng religious ah pawh. Kan sakhua a ṭha ber ti tura in concentrate hi an tlem lutuk. Chuvangin ngaihdan tamzawk hi sakhawmi te ngaihdan a ni lo.

    Mahni sakhaw zirtirna zir telve lova khawvel thiamna ah chauh in concentrate apiangin rinhlelh(doubt) an ngah zel, eng sakhua ah pawh.

    Kan hriat aia kan hriatloh a tamzawk a ni tih hre tu tan chuan Pathian a awm rin hi a har vak dawn a mawn le ka ti.

  1. 51
    no_nick Says:

    @50: ka thianpa chuan a sawisel lo ania.. kan sawi dun mai mai zawk ani e..!! Nia, religios text vel hi nitin mai hian chhiar vak vak mai ila.. kan nitin nunah a tellovin kan awmthiam miah lovang.. Rinna a nih avangin ka zah e.. mahse chu rinna chu kan naupang chhung zawnga min zirtir a ni si a..

    Chimpanzee pawh hi an tet lai atang train ila, mezial te pawh an zu thiam thei ani… Mi in min train(zirtir) dan ang2in kan awm mai ta tihna em mi? nge kan fore fathers te hian thil an lo zirchiang a, ee, hei hi a tha ber an ti zawk..!!

    khawvelah hian Religion pakhat chauh hi chu awm se “a dik ber” zawnna rilru hi tumman kan pu lo mai thei…

    7th century vel khan a ni lo mi Islam a thang(grow) vak kha… Muhamad a a thih hnu khan a successor hna hmasa ber chu War anih kha… “Wars of Apostasy”
    Religion hi war hunah a pawimawh em a, chuvang chuan keini te, nangni te ang hi min hruai bo ani lo maw…???

    Israel-Palestine = Jews vs Muslims, India -Pakistan = Hindu Vs Muslim, USA Vs Muslims (lol) etc ang chi te hi a fundamental level ah chuan Religion buaina a ni..!! Resources(oil) etc duh vanga buiana zanga kan nagihtuah chuan a pawnlang mah mah maithei…

  2. 52
    no_nick Says:

    @51 last sentence khi typo.. ” Resources(oil) etc duh vanga buiana ang zawnga kan nagihtuah chuan a pawnlang mah mah maithei… ” tih tur…!

  3. 53
    Art-a Says:

    no_nick@49:

    Pathian a awm tih i pawm thei ta em ni? Hma i sawn e..

    Tichuan opton pathum neiah i la ingai taa tiraw?

    Islam, Hinduism, Christianity..

    Islam sakhua hmuchhuaktu hian Pathianah a inchhal ve em? Vantirhkoh or ramhuai hnen atanga thudawngah bak a inchhal lo; an text bu-ah hian history leh theology a kalkawp va hauh lo bawk. He sakhuabu hian Isua kha Pathian zawlneiah a la pawm zui. Messiaah pawh a pawm, a lokal leh dawn tih pawh a pawm — advantage Christianity.

    Hinduism hi le .. pathian mumal sawi tur pawh neilo, historical/geographical narrative leh theology inzawmna pawh nei lo hi rintlak-ah ka ngai lo — disadvantage hinduism.

    Christiannity ve thung.. an hotupa chu Palestina ram velah a lar hle. An khengbeta, thlan atangin a tho leh. A zirtirte nasa taka an sawisak pawhin an phatsan duh lo.. AD 300–400 ah phei chuan Lalram ropui ber official religion a ni thei. AN lehkhabua history leh historical figures, geographical narrative leh theology a inmil thlap. Prophecy tam tak a thleng dik bawk.
    An hruaitu hian PAthian fapa-ah zu inchhal zui a. Hei hi ngaihthah chi em ni. A nih loh chuan rintlak a ni lo tawp ang.. mi a tihna a ni ngei ang. A nih erawh chuan rin loh chu a denzar khawp thung ang. Mi naran a nih loh zia lah christian nilo, Josephus te leh tacitus te ho in an ziak kur dup lehnghal a.

    khawi hi nge rintlak ta ber ang le…

    Kristian rinna hi blind faith a ni lo tih hi i la hrethiam ve mai ang… i zawn peih chuan.

    A thu hrimah Pathian a awm tih pawm si,sakhaw dik ber a awm ring leh silo hi i mak ve hrim hrim e. Engahmah i chiang lo ni berin a lang. Thil dik ber a awm lohin diklo hlir asin awm dawn. A dik i la hmuh loh avang khan chuti chuan i ngai mai mai a ni. Inpuang mai rawh, sakhuanaah hi chu ka bang bo ve khawp rih mai ti tha ve mai la… tu’n an hnial an hnial peih lo ang che 😛 . An tawngtai pui liam liam dawn che alawm.

  4. 54
    Asteric™ Says:

    Khawl thil i niloa Chimpanzee pawh i nilo a, tetlaia i zir pawh i thlah leh vek thei. chutiang khawpa chhia leh ṭha hriatna, mahni duhdana drive thei tura developement siam thei, nature a thil danglam ber i ni. Sakei chuan BC hunlai aṭanga a zia ala thlak lo. Chimpanzee poh kawr i hak tir reng chuan hak reng tur amaw a ti ang. Nang chuan i nu in i tetlaia hmuamtelel a hmuam tir che kha hmuam reng tur amaw i ti chuang lo. Chuvangin Tihluihna religions reng reng a ṭha ngailo, nangma chhia leh ṭha hriatna nangmaha awm kha i hmang dawn alawm, a circular ah i buai anih kha.
    Khing Versus i rawn daha versus tak2 ho hi religious tak i hre tlem viau ang.

    Lehkhabu ṭha tam tak, min ti fing thei hi ka dam chhunga ka zir zawh sen loh a awm. Engati nge Bible hi chungte aia ka rin bik em em? Hun kal tawh te, awm mek te leh lola awm tur te, ka awm tawh dan te, ka awm mek dan te leh ka la awm dan tur a sawi dik theih em avangin ka pawma ka ring mai a ni.
    A aia rin tur dang ṭha hria ila ka thlak mai tur a ni.

    Ka nun kaihhruai nan ka hmanga, intih fin nan leh thiamna show nan erawh a hman theihloh. Chutiang hman tur chi chu subj. a aia thlanawm tam tak a awm.

  5. 55
    Chemtatrawta Says:

    A hmasaa ka sawi duh chu, nangmah ti confuse lehzual em emtu, i mention ngat i thianpa thusawi(argument) hi Karl Marx-a’n Dialectical Materialism a hrilhfiah theihna tura religion a attack-naa a tawngkam hman chiah a ni e. I thianpa chu dahtha nghal ang, a pawmdan chu tikhan i hrefiah thei nghal mai awm e.

    Indian nihna hi chiang taka hre tur chuan India rama chen phawt a ngai a ni. Kristian dik tak ni a, Krista hrefiah tur chuan Kristaah chen hmasak a ngai tlat reng a ni.

  6. 56
    keimah Says:

    @no_nick#43, Kristianna hi sakhua pakhat ve maia i ngaih vangin ka chhanna che khi i man lo mai mai niin ka hria.

    A tawp nan Bible chang ka han present leh hlek ang che:
    “For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to Greeks foolishness. But to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God”. 1 Cor. 1: 21-24

  7. 57
    Art-a Says:

    no_nick

    Thil pakhat mai mai.

    Nangpawhin sakhaw dang i sawisel lova, hei hi tha ka ti khawp mai. Sakhua nei lem lo mahla, hinduism chu i awn tih a hriat khawp thung. Majority kristian kan nih avang hian hindu sakhua hi sawisel ka tum miah lo. Mahse chumi avang chuan an sakhaw bu leh an belief hi hrelo ah chuan min ngai lo hram ang che. A chhan chu tlemte ka hre ve.

    An sakhaw puithiam hmingthang Swami Krishnananda thuziak ‘A Short History of Religious and Philosophic Thought in India’ te leh hinduism zir bingna text book hi a tam khawp nia.

  8. 58
    keimah Says:

    Point 1 leh lawk:
    #43-a i chhanna: “…ka rinna ah hian ka fiah lutuk tlat chuan, tuna i rin avanga i thlamuang ang chiah khan ka thla a muang ve a nia…”

    Hei hi chu ka awih lo deuh mang e. I post han chhiar hian i thlamuang lem lo tih a hriat ropui sia!! (NOI)

    @no_nick, Isua Krista ka rinna avanga ka thlamuanna hi thil dangin a tehkhin pha lo a sin! He thlamuanna hi sakhua emaw thil dang emaw rinna atangin a neih theih loh! Khawvelin a pe thei lo hrim hrim. Chuvang chuan a nia, sakhuana mai ni lovin AMAH ISUA hi hmelhriat ve la ka duh em emna chu ni.

    Engpawhnise, zawng zel rawh. Pathianin tihtakzeta amah zawngtute chuan an zawng hmu thin tih hetah hian a sawi:
    “And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart”. Jeremiah 29:13

    Be honest about yourself, and keep on searching! God bless!

  9. 59
    no_nick Says:

    @ Art-a: Hma i sawn tawh khawp e.. I thil tihdan tur kha ka ngaihruat na nen a inmil zelmai.. ka zawhna chu i man chiang tawh khawp mai, mahse i sakhw biak lai khan a i sub-concious mind a hneh hle tawh avaning you cannot think straight.. I sakhua example ah bawk i tlu lut leh thin.. I predictable lutuk… i thiamloh ani love, Mihring zawng2 khi khitiang deuh vek khi an ni tlat….

    Step by stepin kan sawi leh mai mai ange.. Somehow I memory kha kan erase ta vek mai a, Zulu ramah kan hruai che a, “Lungtum hi khawvel awmchhan a ni, pathian ani, t(r)ih rawh, hlau rawh, praise him” tiin an zirtiur tlut2 che a, I pawm a.. chuan “aa.. a awm deuh kan zawng ve ange” tih rilru i pu leh a, i zawng ve tan ta aa.. chutah chuan Bible, Koran, Hindu etc i hretan ve ta a, chuan Kristian chu a dik berah i ring ta a, i pawm ta a… chu chu I “rindan” kan tih chiah chu ani.. I RINDAN ani.. i hrethiam tawh em aw.. I Rindan kha a dik ai ti a, i pawm ani mai..

    Pathum zingah a dik ber i thlang tihna ani miah lo ania… I rinna kha dik i tia i thlang tihna zawk anih chu…!! Hrethiams….!!!!????

    Khita I thlan aia rinawm theih zawk tuemaw in rawn dah leh ta se, I rinna chu i thlak leh thovang…!! I “rinna” lai chiah kha a hlu a.. Mahse I rinna kha a dik ber bik lo tih kha hrthiam ve mai mai dawn nia…

    Art-a says:
    Inpuang mai rawh, sakhuanaah hi chu ka bang bo ve khawp rih mai ti tha ve mai la… tu’n an hnial an hnial peih lo ang che . An tawngtai pui liam liam dawn che alawm.

    I say.. lolzzz…. kan in hmin loh hmel…!! tawngtai comes inside religion… I ngaihdan leh i rindan a ni leh ta.. Tawngtaipui vanga thil tha veka tura i rindan kha I RINDAN ani.. not mine..!!

    Miin “tawngtai” la i duh duh i dil dawn nia an tia?? lolz.. Tuanh tak hi chuan ka tawngtaina ah chuan “Mercedes Car” ka dil, ka parking ka zuk en a a lo awm chuang miah lo…!!

    I know you will say, “Pathian thil tih dan chu a mak khawp a, saifiah thiam a har”.. or else you will say.. Pathian hnenah chutiang an dil ngai lo, damna te, lawmna te, nitin chaw te dil zawk tur etc..

    Religian pawnah lo chhuak phot la, kan sawio ho don nia…

    (None of my comments are intended to hurt anyone.. sawi hnem palh anih chuan min lo hrethiam dawn nia..)

  10. 60
    Asteric™ Says:

    Nie, religions ah chuan enge a dik ber ni ang tih kan hre lo ani maithei e. Chuvangin kan Pathian thu ah hian tui nen a Pathian thu hi tehkhin a ni ṭhin.
    Kan Pathian thu a mi ni lo in:
    I hmaah in tur tui tam tak a awm, a solution leh concentration in anglo vek an ni a, a neitu ten an fak a. I tui hal vanglai tak maiin in turin i pan a, a vai chuan tui vek a ni. I in chuan i chhawl hal pawh engemaw chen chu an chhawk vek thei ang. An ṭha vek e, a neitu tepawhin an fak vek a, ṭha ber an ti vek a ni.
    A concentration a in anloh avang chuan chung tui zing ah chuan i kal leh zel na tur atana i dang ro an chhawk rei theih zawng pawh a in anglo, chutah chuan a content a zirin duh i thlang anga, a chhawk rei thei ber tu che chu i thlang dawn a lawm.

    Isua chuan kei hi tui nung lui chu ka ni, tupawh chu tui in chu an tui hal leh tawh lovang tiin example water hmangin min rawn set sak a ni.

    Midang pawhin lo ti ve se! I in nawn ngai chhen kha a diklo a ni tih i hre mai dawn a lawm.

  11. 61
    Alejendro Says:

    Khawvel tawp hunah hian Allah.. hi a ruan ti ruah ruah mai anga.. 😛 Nih loh paw’n Hanuman-a te hi a talhtum nen a rawn thlawk fia fia mai anga.. mang ang tak tak kan tam ve ngawt ang. 😛

  12. 62
    Alanism theory Says:

    Religion ultimate goal chu liberation a ni vek.Thenkhat chuan Pathian chenna a chen an tum.Damchhung a nun tha tinreng chu Pathian chenna or adt thlen theitu nia ngaih a ni.Mahse,heng hi duhthusam(phuahchawp) mai a nih ka ring.Kawng leh thu tak leh nunna…Isua hi goal dik ber a nih ka ring,damchhung atan chauh ni lo,A chenna min hruai thleng theitu tur a nih ka ring.Religion leh God chu a in relate.Tawk leh mai.

  13. 63
    zoho Says:

    No_nick a rilru awm hi in hriatthiampui lo deuh in ka hria. Religion, philosophy, tradition leh culture in clash hnuai a lo piang leh seilian a ni a,typical Mizo christian in he crisis hi kan tawng ve lo. Identity crisis pawh a nei tih a inpuang tawh a, chumi zung tak tak chu philosophy leh belief ah crisis a nei a ni zawk.

    Mizo Kristian te kan mitdelna tlat a awm, a lian lutuk bawk. Sakhuana hi kan Pathian a, heihi bumna a ni e. Sakhuana hrim hrim hi Setana mastermind a ni zawk. True spirituality has nothing to do with religion and its religiousity.

  14. 64
    keimah Says:

    @zoho #63 (Y)

  15. 65
    no_nick Says:

    ka confused a ni mai thei.. ka lo ngaihtuah chhunzawm zel ange.. !! ka hriatthiam hunah ka lo la post leh ang.. ka comment peih tawh lo..
    in duh ang angin lo ngaihtuah ve mai ru…!!

  16. 66
    Asteric™ Says:

    Zoho-a ang lo takin True God zawnna ah hi chuan calture, traditonal in clash avanga doubt theih ah ka ngai lo. If God is real, Hnam Sakhua a nei neilova nga, calture a nei lova nga, he khawvel mihring pui te traditional leh philosophy in clash avanga in phum bo/hmuh hmaih thei ah ka ngai lo. Chu chu a zawng tu pawhin a zawn dan tur ah ka ngai.
    Calture a luh phet an tum ṭhin vang hi lawm Hindu ho pawhin Christianity chu western calture aṭanga rawn zi chhuak amaw an tih a an zawm duh ṭhin loh.
    Ka Vai thian ho nen ah pawh ka ti fo thin, “Ganes a hi real God anga inpawm anih chuan engatinge min duhsakin ka biak ve tura min hrilh loh, ka Pathian a ni ve tur ani lawm ni” ka ti ṭhin.

  17. 67
    Ignatia (33-115 AD) Says:

    Art-a (Y)

    63-naa comment tu kha hetah hian enge i lo tih ve a? 😀 😀

  18. 68
    PKfanai Says:

    Pu Zohoa a tel hi chuan, thu a fing a, sawiho pawh hi a nuam bik tlat. 63 first Paragraph khi a dik ka ti khawp mai. Mahse, 2nd para. erawh khi chu pawm har ka ti deuh. Isua khan, amah zahpui emaw, a hnungzuitu nih puanchhuah ngam loh kha, a ngai serious viau a sin. Baptisma te pawh hi kan sawi pawimawh lo lutuk lek lek thin. Khawvel mite mit hmuh a, Isua thihna leh thawhlehna leh, chumiin a kan sual a tlenfaina entirna ani a, a pawimawh teh a sin. “Hindu te, Muslim te, Sikh te, Buddhist te pawh an spiritual viau thei a, vanramah kan inhmu khawm vek thovang” i tihna a ni em?

  19. 69
    Art-a Says:

    LAk nat tur engmah a awm hleinem, i inthlahrung lutuk a anih kha.

    I argument hi e, a chiri lutuk. RINDAN leh RINNA i thliarhrang thiam lo a nih berin a lang. Ka rindan han explain ila ‘kristian perspective’ i ti zaih a, i ‘rindan’ chu chuti khati i ti ang lawi bawk si hi circular argument a ni. Belief system kan sawi dawn chuan a foundation sawi tel a ngai tlat a ni. Chu chu hei hi a ni: Kristian rinna hi rindan a ni lo. It’s a faith that comes from reveleation affirmed by historically and geographically accurate narratives, as well as the testimonies of many many respectable witnesses.

    Ka sawi nawn leh ang i ‘Lungtum analogy’ khi a valid lo.. paih bo rawh — foundation engmah a nei ve lo.. savvy?

    no_nick Says:

    “Pathum zingah a dik ber i thlang tihna ani miah lo ania”

    Me says: Thlan lam ka sawi lo.. eng khi nge reasonable ber ang tih lam a ni zawk e.

    Yo sayz: lolzzz…. kan in hmin loh hmel…!! tawngtai comes inside religion… I ngaihdan leh i rindan a ni leh ta..

    Me saiz: figure of speech a nih khi.. ka rindan nilovin — opps i man sual leh tlat. A awm zia chu: hetiang sakhaw lam, mi thin khei chi hi inti fing taka post lo hian, sakhuana lam chu ka bo khawp mai ti la, min an hau luai luai lo ang che ang a an khawngai zawk dawn che nia tihna mai a ni e.. again you’ll say (in your heart) me no need pity.. but that’s ur prob.. whateva 😛

    Tawngtaina awmzia te lah chu i han man lo vei vei ve aw. Duh duh (awh zawng apiang) dil tur hian eng religion mah hian an zirtir pawhin ka ring lo ve. I hriattiam loh vang tho a ni e.. u r 4given (@)

    no_nick says:
    “I know you will say, “Pathian thil tih dan chu a mak khawp a, saifiah thiam a har”.. or else you will say.. Pathian hnenah chutiang an dil ngai lo, damna te, lawmna te, nitin chaw te dil zawk tur etc..”

    I say: Lolzz.. i ring sual leh ta 😛

    Sakhaw nei lo mi leh sakhaw nei mi chu inhmin a har ngawt ang. Ka lo chhuak lo mai ang chu.. lolz

    I hypocricy hi i man thiam tawh em? Mi thuziak rin mai mai a dik lo titu khan mi thuziak tho a ni i rin. Dik ber a awm lo ti zarh zarh tu khan nangmah dik berah i inngai tho tho (I subconscious mind-ah). A tawp berah chuan dik ber a awm lo a nih chuan morality hi a awm thei lo tihna a ni ang. Mahni ngaihdan dan kha tha a ni mai ang chu tiraw. Tual thah, uire, rukruk, corruption ldt kha a ti tu khan a ngaihdan chuan tha a ti a ni ve mai a, i thuziak atanga thlir chuan tuman sawisel tur kan ni bik lo tihna a ni. Dik ber awm tlat hek lo.. tam zawkin diklo ti mahila a titu khan DIK a ti ve tlatz.

  20. 70
    no_nick Says:

    Engkim mai hi religion, sakhaw hmuh in in hmu vek a.. ka thil ngaihtuah ang an awm ve ang em le ? tih a ka zawhna neih chu ka hrethiam e.. ka nagituahna ang nei ve mi chu an awm zeuh2 a.. Mi tam tak chu hrilhfiah tum mah ila an hrethiam dawn chuang lo…!! tih ka hrthiam thei ve ta e…!!

    Inhnialna a ngai tlat te kha kan lo awm palh ange..!! Inhnialna ani lo… Buaina a nih hi…!! Religion concept hi a dik lo ti tu te kan awm em aw..

    Mihring theuh2 a then Christian, a then Islam, a then Hindu…!! Khawiah maw tak hi chuan “Dik ber” leh “Dik lo” a awm hrim2… A dik ber hre tur khawp chuan ka thiamna hian a tlin ve lo aniang…!!

    Religion hi siamchawp an i tih ka hriatfiah hnu ah hian ka thawveng huai mai…!! Pathian chu kan la zong ho dawn nia..! A hmutawh te chu i vannei ka ti mai.. kei chua ahmulo te zingah ka la awm a nih chu..!!

  21. 71
    Chemtatrawta Says:

    Religion dik ber Christianity tihin i pawm duh bawk si lova, han sawipui chu i har duh hmel ka ti ve mai mai.. 😛

  22. 72
    no_nick Says:

    @69: Art-a says: Tawngtaina awmzia te lah chu i han man lo vei vei ve aw. Duh duh (awh zawng apiang) dil tur hian eng religion mah hian an zirtir pawhin ka ring lo ve. I hriattiam loh vang tho a ni e.. u r 4given

    I say Religion pawnah chhuak tawh rawh…, shake your head and get out of that religion system and then tawngtaina awmzia sawifiah tum teh khai? Religion pawnah tawngtaina in awmzia a neih loh hmel.. Perspective tha tak min rawn pe leh e..! a lawmawm..!!

    Art-a says: A tawp berah chuan dik ber a awm lo a nih chuan morality hi a awm thei lo tihna a ni ang. Mahni ngaihdan dan kha tha a ni mai ang chu tiraw. Tual thah, uire, rukruk, corruption ldt kha a ti tu khan a ngaihdan chuan tha a ti a ni ve mai a, i thuziak atanga thlir chuan tuman sawisel tur kan ni bik lo tihna a ni. Dik ber awm tlat hek lo.. tam zawkin diklo ti mahila a titu khan DIK a ti ve tlatz.

    I say: I hrethiam tawh khawp kha a…!! I hrethiam lo der vel munle… 🙂

  23. 73
    Asteric™ Says:

    @no_nick: Bible dik zia hi chhiar ve mahteh…tuna i awmdan te hi zuk sawi lawk veka mawle 😉

    atomic leh quantum theory te chuan thil awm sa leh annih phung chiah min hrilh a, i rilru (tuna i awm dan ang) hi min hrilh ve lo reng2 😀

  24. 74
    Art-a Says:

    @72

    Lolzz.. hrethiamlo der munlo 🙂

    Religion chhungah hian lo lut ve zawk rawh — Kristian ah

    ‘Chuan i duh loh chuan i chhuak leh daih dawn alawm.

    no_nick Says:
    “shake your head and get out of that religion system and then tawngtaina awmzia sawifiah tum teh khai?”

    Aaa.. hei chu ngaihtuah nawn ngai. Religion pawnah tt-na sawifiah dan a awmin ka ring lo.

  25. 75
    no_nick Says:

    71 chemtatrawta: LOlzzz… A dik ber ah ka ngai loo aniang..!!

    Lo haw miah su aw… hei le…

    Old Testament ah.. Moses khan tui a sah phel tak tak i ring em? chutiang ti thei tu chu khawvelah hian supernatural power nene chuan la awm awm tak..

    Jesus Christ khan Mithi kaithawh a nei te kha dangdai deuh asin.. Luke ah chuan mi pakhat a thi a, thlan ah an thlen hnu chuan Jesus chuan a khaithova.. a la awm deuh… John han enleh ila, mi pakhat a thi ve leh a (Guess name is Lazar, not sure), a thih a atanga ni li chhung hnu a ( a uih tawh) Jesus khan a kaitho leh a..!! A awihawm chiah lo deuh ani…!! )(it doesn’t mean I am criticising Christianity, Its purely how i understand)

    Even in Hindu, Brahma, Vishnu leh Mahesh an tih te pawh hian awzia anei lo, Ganesha lu ah Sai lu te an vuah a.. ka awih lo..!! hetiang hi chu mythology ania.. and it can be read.. coz its myth..!! Its not real either..!

    religion huam chhungakan luh tawh hnu ah heng thu hi an ziak tih hi kan hre theuh dawn nia.. Hindu inti chuan Hindu text a ziaka , Christian in Kristian text a ziak a…!! chu chu kan lo chhiar ve a, kan lo pawm ve a.. lolzzz

    Sawi tam duh lo ania…! Tuman lo haw lo phot mai ru…!

  26. 76
    Art-a Says:

    Tak takin no_nick,

    I sawi hi ka hrethiam viau.. mahse ka sawi dan key i man lo deuh tlat a ni. Religion as a whole chuan eng religion pawh hi engmah a ni lo. Chutih rual chuan religion chhungah hian religion tak tak awm a awm tih hi ka sawi duh chu a ni.

    Coconut hi i kheh loh chuan ei a har khawp ang.. s coconut pum ringawt kha chu tangkaina a tlem khawp; mi vawm nan chuan tha mai thei.. nunna erawh a pe lo ang. Chutiang deuh tho chu sakhuana hi a ni. Pawnlangah chuan engmah ani lo.. nunna nei lo a ni. Mahse a kher peihte tan chuan a chhungah hian eitur tha (chatuan nunna) a inphum tlat si a ni.

  27. 77
    Chemtatrawta Says:

    no_nick, tuizemah tui a khah tawh miau chuan tui dang dahluh belh a har tawh thin. Inbunruak phawt mai la, i hre duh tak tak anih chuan.. Tuna ka hmuh dan tak chuan, religion perception i neih khan i hriatduh tam tak, midangin an hrilh tur che kha a dang tlat niin ka ngai deuh..

  28. 78
    Alejendro Says:

    Ka van sawi ve chak tawh. 😛 I awmdan ang hi chuan “been there, done that” 😀 Muslim sakhua te hial lo zui tum ve thut thut tawh. Quran pawh ka la kawl reng (English translation PDF)hehe amak a na… LOL

    Eng ka sawi mahin i rilru/ngaihdan a sawhsawn dawnlo a, eng i sawi mahin ka rilru/ngaihdan/rindan a sawhsawn dawn bawk heklo. Sawi velo leh phawts mai ang. 😀

    In comment lo chhiar mai mai hi a nuam tawk chiah. 😀

    At some point every human-being searches for the Truth, seek for happiness.

    One thing I want to let you know. Christianity is not a Religion, but it’s a Relationship. Relationship between us and Jesus. Jesus, the son of God, didn’t come on Earth to make a Religion, but He came to build a Relation between the Human Race and God which was already torn in the Garden of Eden.

    Chuan Mosia’n Tuipuisen a sah chat tih khi i hresual. Mosi-a khan a sat chatlo. Pathian in a sat chat, Mosi-a a hmang. 🙂

  29. 79
    no_nick Says:

    @74 Art-a: religion syatem rin tawh lo nak a laia.. kristian ah lo lut rawh min ti vel a.. lolzz.. awmzia a nei lovang..! 🙂 🙂

    Is there exist any way of life other than religion, ?? Like just a good way of life and nothing…! where ppl are not miser, happy..

    These religios war.. religions conversion, claim to praise some religions the most are all fake…!! Its like we dive deep inside the system without knowin the actual reason of diving in..!! An then you found something deep down and interprets the way you want it.. preach it..and make ppl believ “Dude, this is it, this is right and this is wrong?”

    Its like a form of govtment.. Every country has its own govt who make rule so that ppl stays in harmony…!! Somthing which is illegal in India is not illegal in another country… Prostituion(Amsterdam) = Legal, India=Illegal…

    Religion is formed keeping in mind the same thing coz there wasn’t those country concept based on boundary in ancient times..! and then religions evolved, lots of additions and subtraction.. hei hi ka ngaihdan ani…

  30. 80
    Chemtatrawta Says:

    @alejandro aka sangte tlangval hi…phuhchhuak fuh chut2 lutuk.. 😉

  31. 81
    Asteric™ Says:

    Ka comment ho kha uluk deuhin chhiar la, i rilru hmanhmawh lutuk suh. Argument siam nan i rawn ti vel mai mai ni in ka hria. Ka rinhlelh laia ka awih loh dan zawng2 kha mi hrilh ve dawn ila, rinna chaklo deuh chu ka hruaikawi thei hial in ka ring 😉

    mahse engkawngah pawh dika ka hriat chu, beiseina neih loh tawp aiin beiseina nghahna tur tlem tal neih pawh hi a hahdam zawk, rin tur neihloh aiin rin tur neih a thlamuan thlak zawk. 🙂

    Ka out tawh teh ange, bye

  32. 82
    Art-a Says:

    79@no_nick

    I lo luh tak tak ka ring awkawng lo ..hahah. I position nangmah ngeiin han sawifiah la ka duh vang a ni mah zawk. A that leh that loh pawh hre hauh lova, uite bauh leuh leuh mai i nih zia i tarlanga a tha. Kristian emaw sakhaw engpawh zirbingna emaw luhchilh tak tak silova, rawn discredit vak zel mai hi a finthlak loh zia nakinah i la hre mai ang.

    Religion chang nilovin Pathian thu hi government chungchang a ni a sin. Engkim siamtu hi engkim chunga rorel tu a ni. I ngaihdana tha leh tha lo emaw keia ngaihdan emaw lam a ni lo. I ideology ang chuan i chungah eng ang pawn miin thil ti se sawisel thei i ni lo i tihna a ni maw? I ti tak tak chiah maw? Pthian dan, moral law tello hian i survive theiin i inring chiahin i ngam chiah maw?
    ?

  33. 83
    no_nick Says:

    82 Art-a: moral law hi eng chiah nge?? I hrthiam em? Moral law hi awm lo mahse natural law a awm thei sain.. vawiina min sawisa a, naktukah ka sawisa ve ang che.. chu chu natural law ani..!!

    Chuvang chuan moral law hi religian vanga awm ah i ngai ami? Religion vanaga awm a ni lo..! Moral law hi religion chi hrang2 ah hian a awm a nih chuan there wud not have been wars.. killings…!! Religion vang hian engamh a improve love…! a buai zawk…!!

    Ther is division because of religions and not becoz of geographical boundaries..!! Geographical boundaries are created due to religions.. Human beings are divided due to group born out of religions…!!

    sakhaw chi hrang2 hian belhchian a dawl lo…! Perspective dang i neih theihnan lekhabu pakhat ka rawn suggest ang che.. (since you are speaking with a simple mind inside religion and since all the things that you are taught till now inside religion is Christianity) he lehkhabu hi lo chhiar ve ta che…. Mahse thuthlukna siam hma viau suh ang che…!!

    Karl Kautsky a ziah Foundations of Christianity(1908)…

  34. 84
    ReMpYâ„ Says:

    in arguments a va ngaihnawm em!! Hei han lem lok ula, (B) sawi zel teu

  35. 85
    Art-a Says:

    83,
    no_nick ..

    Natural law hi khawi atanga lo awm nge ni zawk? Bases instinct ti pawn sawi ila.. i explain thei em? Sakhuana or Pathian thu chuan chiangkuang takin a sawifiah a sin. He natural law counter na tur leh kan hriatthiam theihna tur hian moral law hi lo awm a ni.

    Tin, Moral law awm lo se natural law a awm leh awm loh lam a ni lo. Moral law tello hian mihring hi a awm thei lo. Natural law hi a awm tih tun kan pha lo, a awm avang tak reng hian moral law kan mamawh a ni. Chu moral law, Tual that suh, ru suh adt. tih te hi khawi atanga lo awm nge. IPC draft tute khan khawi atanga an lak nge i hria em? BIBLE atangin a sin.

    “Moral law hi religion chi hrang2 ah hian a awm a nih chuan there wud not have been wars” i tih pawh hi eng nge a awm zia? A awm sa reng a, mi tam zawk hian kan zawm lo mai a ni zawk. Moral law awm reng chung pawha, tiang kan nih chuan, awm lo phei se chu ….

    Morality hi a famkim loh avang hian a awm lo tihna a ni hauh lo. A famkim hun a la thleng dawn tih leh a lo thlen dan tur pawh i hre lo ang tiraw? Keini chuan kan hria a sin. Morality a awm leh awm loh pawh i hre lo a, eng nge morality pawh i hre lo a nih chuan, ransa aia i chungnun vakna eng nge ni le?

  36. 86
    no_nick Says:

    73 Asteric: bible hi uluk taka ziah ani a.. Luke chapter hnu ah Matthew a awm a.. a thu ziak ah hian negative connotations nei ho a paih thla zel a…

    Class hatred te hi Bible ah hian a tel ve tho ania.. sai vak hi chu anuam lo.. Mi rinna sawisel hi ka duh miah lo na a.. Entirnan hausa chu vanram a kai thei lo.. I thil neih zawng2 hralh vek la, mi rethei tanpui rawh tih te bible ah a wm asin..!

    hausa chu sual lo mahse vanram akai theilo tihna a mi? Class ah a in divide ve nasa asin.. Bible chu ka chhir chhuak dap tawh e…!!

    Ka sawi duh leh mai mai pakhat chu Biakin hi.. Biakin chhunga luh hian rilru a Peaceful thin khawp mai..! biakin chhunga kan awmdan ang chian hian khawvel khawilai hmunah pawh mihring zawng2 hi awm thei vek ila chuan ” a dik ber” zawn ngai lovin “a tha ber” kan zawng duh zawk hrim…

  37. 87
    Art-a Says:

    no_nick,

    I lehkhabu min rawn khi chu a lawmawm viaunain ka chhiar lo mai ang e.. a leina tur pawh ka nei lo 😀

    German philosopher ho thuziak phei hi chu (Christianity cc ah chuan) ka kham tawk viau tawh. 19th century atanga govt. in theological institution a corrupt atang khan Kristiante theoloy a corrupt hnem ltk tlat. Higher criticism, modernism, post-modernism, neo-orthodoxy, new- hwemaneutics hmaanga, Kristiante thurin pawlhdal tu hi ka chhiar hne tawh. An thu kalhmang erawh ka bel ve viau tawh e. Mithiam an nih zia erawh ka pha lem lo.. mithiam nilo se an thuziak hian christian theologian tha pui pui a hruai peng lovang. An buaina erawh engkim literal taka hrilhfiah an tum hi a ni. Supernatural awih duh miau hek lo. A evidence pawh zir chiang duh tlat hek lo.

  38. 88
    no_nick Says:

    85 Art-a: Morality hi awm lo mahse kan dam thei khawp mai.. A hnai thei ang bera sawi dawn chuan Mizo history hi en la..!! Morality a awm em? awm vak lo.. khua kan run a, an lu kan la a.. kan lampui a.. etc..

    Mahse Mizo hnam hi Morality i sawi a awm hma pawh khan a lo survive reng asin..!! but that would be a whole different story.. the law wud be different.. but it will still work..

    Religion hian moral law a siam chawp a ( hei hi chu a tha lam a ni), mahse religion hian mankind a divide nasat zia hi a moral value ai khian weight a ngah zawk lo maw?

    Mihring te hi Instinct a action la thin kan ni a..!! Religios text an siam hian mihring instinct in a dik atih tur ang chi chiah an ziak lang tlat mai ani..!! a chhan chu Religion spread an duh vang ani..

    Chutiaang zel chuan khawvel hmun hrang2 atang religioans chi hrang2 a lo piang a.. mahni ngaihdan an kal pup pup mai a… a ngaihtuah peih ten an ngaihtuah a, a ngaituah ve peihlo ten an follow a…!! heng followers te hian a nia religios teaching mis-interpret ta a… a then a n rebel a, a then save Hindusim (RSS), a then in Islam Movement etc.. Jihad…!! engkim mai a lo chhuak phah ta anih hi..!!

    Religion Concept hi a dik thlawt love tih hi ka sawi duh ber ani e.. a dang chu lo zirchiang ve chhin chiah la…!!

  39. 89
    beethugs2 Says:

    “Pathian thu hi mihring te hriatthiam rual ani lo”, tih leh thin ringawt ai chuan Arts te leh Astreric te ho comment chu a va ngaihnawm deuh deuh ve.. (H)

  40. 90
    Prof. Snake Says:

    no_nick: trang tlat rawh, kalo tranpui ang che. hehe 😛

    Religion came from humans ability to think something beyond life, the search for something to depend on when they are helpless. Something which can give hope when there is no hope from their own selves.

    Vawikhat ah sawi duah lo teh ang, a ti hot tawk chauha tih angai tlat. hahaha 😛

  41. 91
    no_nick Says:

    87@ Art-a: lollzz. i va rethei ve aw…. 🙂 🙂 :fiamthu:
    a leina tur ka rawn thawn dawn che mi.. lolzzz..

    i nei loh avang in ka lo google sak che a.. a link ka hmu fuh e.. Google books ah pawh a awm ka ring…!! hei i lo chhiar dawn nia…

    http://www.marxists.org/archive/kautsky/1908/christ/index.htm

  42. 92
    Art-a Says:

    no_nick Says:

    “Morality hi awm lo mahse kan dam thei khawp mai.. A hnai thei ang bera sawi dawn chuan Mizo history hi en la..!! Morality a awm em? awm vak lo.. khua kan run a, an lu kan la a.. kan lampui a.. etc..

    Mahse Mizo hnam hi Morality i sawi a awm hma pawh khan a lo survive reng asin..!! but that would be a whole different story.. the law wud be different.. but it will still work..”

    I hresual chhiava a ni e!! Ka sawi thui hmaiin thil pakhat mi han chhang pawht teh. “AWM VAK LO” ih khi eng nge a awmzia. A awm nge awm lo?

  43. 93
    no_nick Says:

    @Art-a, hei funny a lawm zawng in kan inhnial mawni le aw.. Funny a a lo lang hlawl mai.. lolzzzz

    Funny a a lo lan tawh chuan kan inhnial nasa hle tihna ani mai..!! Hot hi nuam a ti ve a.. amah pawh hi a hot viau ka ring.. 🙂

  44. 94
    no_nick Says:

    awm lo ka tihna anih khi Pu Art

  45. 95
    kawlhawk Says:

    no_nick => no_religion

    Nang hi zawng, hmanni lawk, i rawn luh phat atang reng khan engamah hmain nick hman turah i buai nghal ringawt a. Ka nick hmantur rawn thawh khawm ula tha ka tih ber ka lo hmang ang e.. I ti a. An rawn thawhkhawm ta liam2 a, a engamah hmang leh si lovin “no_nick” chu vawiin thlengin ì hmang ta reng a. Khata tang khan tun thlengin i la buai chho ta zel a, “buaia” ka ti tawh mai ang che. :p

    Harh fim hunah kawmen-ah ka lo titawh si a, inhnialna bak – kan inhmin hmel bawk si lo a, ka rawn uang vel ta mai2 😀

  46. 96
    Art-a Says:

    I chiang maw ?

    Pi leh pute hunah khan morality a awm miah lo tiin i tang ngam ang maw?

    Sem sem dam dam eibil thi thi an lo tihte kha morality a ni lo a maw? Mizo te’n ka chhuan em em Tlawmngaihna te hi morality a ni lo maw? Midangte nunna chhan nana mahni nun an hlan thinte kha eng nge ni ang. Helamah hi chuan pi leh pute chanchin hre zawk an tam ang. Khing ka sawi ringawt pawh khi morality a ni e.

    Mizote khan Kristian an nih hma pawh khan sakhua chu an nei a ang khawp mai.

  47. 97
    Prof. Snake Says:

    no_nick: I am super hot, but my mind is super cool. 😀

  48. 98
    bulaya Says:

    no_nick (Y)
    Art-a nen in titi a ngaihnawm ber. Khawng nge zoho hi?

  49. 99
    no_nick Says:

    96 Art-a : tang lovang…!! I rawn chhan dan tur kha ka rin dan chiah ani…. Mizo history ah khan pi-pute khan religion tak2 an nei chiah lova.. mahse morality chu khi a awm reng asin..!! A tirah khan religion leh Moral value lampang kha i sawi pawlh nual mai a..

    Religion pawnah Moral law a awm thei tih chu khi nagmah ngeiin i sawi fiah leh ta e..!! A lawmawm..

    Khaw dang runin lu la thin mahse Mizo History ah khan Moral law chu a awm ve reng asin.. Rules siam a awm a, tlawmngaihna a awm a.. tlawmngaihna hi religion in a keng tel thil ani lo ania.. Art-a, nangmah leh nagmah i in contradict tlat..!!

    Kristian emaw Hindu emaw sakhua i zawm vang khan Moral value i nei ve chiah tihna a ni ngai reng2 lo..!! Religion hi awm lo mahse(read religion pawnah) Moral law chu a awm thei ve ani…!! I ngaihdan han sawi zel teh le…

  50. 100
    Prof. Snake Says:

    Religion hi mihringin a hmuhchhuah anih angin eng religion pawh hi a hmuchhuak tute culture nen in link na an nei zel. 😛

    Hot phah deuh angem aw… lolz

  51. 101
    no_nick Says:

    Pu Art-a, vawiin zet zawng, room khatah dun ila,ti ti tak2 ila, kan au ring dun khawp ang aa.. 🙂 Mahse i thil sawi zawng2 khian ka rilru ah chuan awmzia a nei a nia.!! Prespective dang min lo pe ve zel tih ka hrilh duh che.. a lawmawm ka ti…!!

    Funny a chu Hot vel hi a ngaisang a.. Hot veleh lo lang leh zauh thin se… Inhnial-tometer a nia.. kan inhnial na intensity a gauge theih funny a comment atang hian…!! lolzzz

  52. 102
    Art-a Says:

    no_nick:

    Teh hleuh che chuan 😛

    Nangmah zawh alawm in contradict.

    #94-ah chiang takin mizote history-ah morality a awm loh thu i sawi a (chiang taka sawi tura ka tihna chhan che khi i hrethiam ta mai em?), #99-ah chuan “Mizo history ah khan pi-pute khan religion tak2 an nei chiah lova.. mahse morality chu khi a awm reng asin” i ti leh ang lawi a.

    Tin, thil i man fuh lo leh tlat mai thianpa. Religion leh morality ka sawi pawlh a ni lo va, I ideology leh morality a ni zawk tuna kan sawi mek hi chu.

    #82-a ka sawi khi lo en rawh:

    “I ideology ang chuan i chungah eng ang pawn miin thil ti se sawisel thei i ni lo i tihna a ni maw? I ti tak tak chiah maw? Pthian dan, moral law tello hian i survive theiin i inring chiahin i ngam chiah maw?”

    Tichuan tuna i argument ka’n respond leh ang che:

    you said: Religion pawnah Moral law a awm thei tih chu khi nagmah ngeiin i sawi fiah leh ta e..!! A lawmawm..

    Ni reng e. Moral law chu religion pawnah awm thei teh reng mai. Moral chu religion vang chauha awm a nih te chuan a petu chu religion a ni mai ta lawng. Mahse chuti zawng nilovin, Moral law hi religion pek a nih miau loh avangin religion awm kher lo pawhin a awm thei a ni. Moral law hi a awm a, religion hi a guardian a ni chauh zawk a ni.

    Eg:

    1) Judaism awm hmain Pathianin Mosia kaltlangin Sinai tlangah moral law a pe daih tawh .

    2)Kristian sakhua a din hmain Isua khan moral law a lo pe diam tawh.

    Chiang tawh em ? 😉

  53. 103
    Prof. Snake Says:

    no_nick: kalo tranpui che ka tih kha, hot ringawt lam anilo. Truth hi an hriat angai kan misual delegates ho hian. heheh 😛

    Hmanlai civilisation hrang hrang eg. harappan, mayan, aztec, greek… etc. ho pawh khan anmahni own religion anlo hmuchhuak ve veka, an culture nen inzawmna an nei hlawm. Kan mizo pi leh pute religion pawh anih kha. Entirnan, agriculture a eizawng annih angin buh leh bal alo that theihnan a inthawi tih angreng…

    In hau zel ru. 😛

  54. 104
    Art-a Says:

    101@no_nick.. lolzzzzzzzz

    Nia mawle, aw a chhang vek tawh ang.. tunah pawh ka mit a tui deuh pur tawh mai mawle.

  55. 105
    no_nick Says:

    102@Art-a, Moral law chu religion pawnah a awm thei anih chuan religion concept hi a tha ber chuang bik lo tihna lam ani ka rawn sawi zawk..!!

    religion awm vanga tualtha, uire, rukru chungchang i sawi kha a nia ka rawn point out…!! Religion concept a tha tih a i tang ta a, explanation atan i hman khi belhchian a dawl lo a ni zawk lo maw….??

    Religion hian base a nei tak2 lo tihna anih chu…!! Mihringten an siamchawp religion kan follow vang hian a lawm Peace kan tih hi kan neih theih tak2 loh… Religion zawng2 hian Independence an duh vek a, Mihringte inkara division siamtu ber a ni e tih kha kan original argument chu a ni e..

  56. 106
    century child Says:

    ngaihnawm riap riap e,misual nih a nuam thin mang e.

  57. 107
    no_nick Says:

    Mi zawng2 hian religion nei lo ila.. Natural Moral law hi hmang ta ila.. tun a khawvel buai mup2 ai hi chuan kan zia zawk hrim2…!

    US ah kristian, Middle east Islam indo na te hi religion vang nilo se eng vang ngeni ang?? Bo fe fe an tam..

    Islam chuan violence a preach lo mahse interpretation hi a dik thei lo.. a chhan chu religion text ah hian philosophy an include thin vang ani..!! Philosophy leh religion kan then hrang hunah chuan buaina a awm tawh lovang..

    pakistan Islam chhunkua a naupang lo piang chuan Christianity leh hiduism a haw nghal ringot a.. chu chu an thlah te chuan an zir chho zel a, islam concept kha written ni lo mahse a ideology a dilute telh telh a.. chutiang zelin sakhw dang pawh ani vek…!

  58. 108
    Art-a Says:

    Nilo e no_nick,

    Tuna i sawi hi chu ka comment-ah ka sawi tawh kha. Religion as a whole chu ka tan awzawng lo.. coconut analogy ka hman kha !!

    Ka argument zawk erawh chu religion hi mihringte min divide tu, indona chawkchhuak tu a nih rual hian religion dik tak, Pathian din a awm a, chu chu Christianity hi a nih zia a ni zawk. Hetah pawh hian Christian te’n kan religion a nihna tur anga kan represent tlat loh avang hian thil a khawlo zo ta vek a ni.. a pawi vawng vawng a nih ber hi. Religion as a whole anga i sawi khi ka hnial reng reng lo, zoho sawi ang khi a ni. Mahse ka argument ber chu nangma argument pakhat “sakhua dik ber a awm lo” tih lai tak kha,’a dik a awm e’ ka rawn ti ve a nih tret trawt hi.

    Awm lo leh awm tih a nih ber hi.. ‘tiang debate-ah chak zawk a awm theih tak tak loh. Mahni view point thiam ang tawkin kan present a ni ve mai a… NO HARD FEELINGS !!

    (B) kha Beer hi lo in rawh, i au ring si, i dang a ro tawh ang !!

  59. 109
    no_nick Says:

    a awmzia chu religion can devised the way you want to interpret.. but when you come to individual level you refuse to accept that what I am thinking is right… maybe because of your fear, or because your mind is so filled with this so called religious idealism that you are not able to accept your own thoughts…

    Because your brain is already washed ..!

    chemtatrawta sawi ang deuh khan.. barrel ah tui a khah tawh chuan dah belh theih ani tawh lo…!!

    And the complex nature of how the world is heading is also one of the reason…!! You need to work, you need to earn, you need to feed your family.. hei vang hian thil dik hmuhchhuah ai chuan a awmdan hian awm tlangmai se a nuam zawk tih ngaihtuahna a lo awm thin a ani..

    Mihringte hian ” adik ber” ngaihtuah ai chuan “engtin nge sum ka tawhchhuah ang?” , “Engtin nge car ka lei ve theih ang?”, “Hla zirna a kal hi a nuam?”, etc.. engkim ngaihtuah tur kan nei a, ” a dik ber” ngaihtuahna chang kan hrelo ani ber ang..

    That is why it is said.. Life just moves on..

  60. 110
    lushai_er Says:

    @n_n: Ka tan che a nia aw…..!

    Tun hma Mizo kristian hmasate kha an rinna kha “Blind Faith” ka ti ve tlat. Pialral kal duh, thang chhuah ve siloh vanga “ISUA” tunge pawh an hriat loh an ring ve ringawt te kha min ngaihtuah tir daih mai! Tui leh thlarauva pianthar lam kha a lang lem lo!

  61. 111
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    #110 (Y)

  62. 112
    no_nick Says:

    108 Art-a: awkee.. I argument ka sethiam e… nia, religion concept ah khan ka lo tang rei deuh ani…!! lolzz

    Christianity a dik ber i tih ringot khi ka pawm miah lo ania.. Christianity ka sawiselna ni miah lo se..! Sakhaw pakhat example a hmanga, sawi ka duh miah lova, mahse hei a sawi loh theih dawn loh tlat…

    Christianity ah pawh hia division a tam zia chu kei aiin i hre zawk maithei..! Ne testament, Old testament, Tanakh etc.. New Testament i rin avang khan i ring dik ber bik miah lo maithei asin..

    Islam ah chuan “Jesus is one of the Prophet” anti ve tlat bawk a..!! They have their reasons and facts..! Tu ber hi ge dik ta ang…? Muslim pakhat nena kan sawi dun kha chuan “Islam hi a dik ber mai lo maw” tihna rilru te kan pu lek2 anih kha.. chutiang zel chuan nangpawhin han sawi tak2 la, i sawi dik phian bawk ang…

    mahse i sawi zawng2 kha fact anih leh nih loh chu hrilhfiah a har viau maithei…!!

    aa… sawi tam lovang.. sakhua single out a ngai dan anih chuan ka sawi zui lo mai ang..!!

    (mi rilru kan tina ang tihte pawh a hlauhawm tawh, min lo hrethiam dawn nia…)

  63. 113
    no_nick Says:

    110 lushai_er says: Tun hma Mizo kristian hmasate kha an rinna kha “Blind Faith” ka ti ve tlat. Ka lo ngaihtuah tawh thin..

    Kristian a kan in pek sup2 lai khan tu khan nge Genesis thleng a hrthiam awm ang le…??

    Hun a lo kal zel a kum 100 chhung lek pawhin Mizoramah Christian-na hi eng angin nge a lo evolve tih chu kan vaiin kan hmu thei awm e…!! Zu in chu a kristian lo tih te hi Mizoram bika kan phuahchawp ani lo maw??

    hetiang zel hian Kum 1000 hnu ah Mizo te hi khawvel a population tam ber nihna lo chang ta ila, Kristianna concept ah chuan Zu-in hi a kristian lo tih a lo chuang vcang tawh ang..!!

    NOI

  64. 114
    Art-a Says:

    Hehhe no_nick,

    Pawm tir che tumin ka ang hlawih hlawih hleinem. Kristianna hi a dik ber lo maithei mi’n an tih chuan Kristian tan chuan ‘dik ber e’ kan tih ve mai loh te’n. Dik tak chuan Kristiana inchhal ve si, mahni sakhuanaah pawh chiang lo ni awm takin lo support zawk che ila, min ngainep phian zawkin ka ring deuh tlat nia !! (&)

    Quran thuziak cc hi chu nangman lo chhui rawh. Isua Allah prophet-a pawm si hian engatinge Isua thusawi an pawn si loh? Isua ngeiin ‘ka thi anga ka tholeh ang’ a ti a, muslim ho chuan a tholeh tih an pawm lo ni mai lovin thih pawh a thi lo an ti leh si.. a rintlak loh ka ti kei chuan.

  65. 115
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Post danga ka kawmen kan paste mai teh ang:

    Everyone always wants to prove that what they believe is right!

    Dik taka sawi chuan khawvel sakhua zawng2 hian dik berah an inchhal vek. Hei hian Pathian awm ka ringlo ti pawl “Atheist” ho pawh a huam tho. Kristian leh tianlo, Pathian awm ringlo ho thleng hian mahni rinna a midang hruailuh tum ran an ni vek. Proof na tak2 nei thei erawh eng sakhua mah a awm lova, rinna leh beiseina (faith & hope) a inghat deuh vek an ni zawk awm e!

  66. 116
    Art-a Says:

    Ka chhuah hmain, thuhma kan nei veleh lawkz .. hihu

    no_nick chu tak takin engemaw zawng chuan ka ngaisang phian mai che. Thil i ngaihtuah ril tih a chiang mai, i argument pawh tha tak a ni.. atheism-a formal training nei tawh ang mai lah ni che a. I rilru ang tak leh i nihna ang angin i lang ngam hi ka ngaihsan zawng tak a ni (dik miah lo mahse…hihih). I thlalak tak tak i avatara i rawn hmang phei hi chu i ngaihsan awm lehzual 😛

    Lum chuan lum law law, vawh chuan vawh law law. Kristian nih chuan nih law law, nih loh chuan ni loh ngam law law (Y)

  67. 117
    no_nick Says:

    114@Art-a: Now you have come to the point…!! religion system hi awm lo ta se Kristian hi a dik ber i ti bik dawn miah lo ania…!! 🙂 Kristian i nih avangin “a dik ber” i tih a ngai tlat..!! “a dik leh dik loh chu” nang mah pawh i chiang chuang miah lo a nia..!! Rinna ahi a nunpui theih a nia.. I rinna i pawm avangin i thla amuang thin ngei ang..

    Chutiang chiah chuan “a dik lo” tih pawh ring tlat ta la, i thla amuang thovang…!! Ultimate outcome is one and the same..!!

    Pu HV 115 == (Y)

  68. 118
    no_nick Says:

    @116: Art-a, Mangtha aw..!! Debate tha tkan nei a.. a lawmawm e..!!

    (B) kha hei hi zanin chu i lo dawm ta che..!!

  69. 119
    chhangteval Says:

    in va kawmen sei thei ve a :-[ :-[

  70. 120
    bulaya Says:

    “If you were born in Arkansas and you think Christianity is true and Islam is false, knowing full well that you would think the opposite if you had been born in Afghanistan, you are the victim of childhood indoctrination.”

    Richard Dawkins,The God Delusion (Berkshire: Black Swan, 2006),p.25. A ziak tupa hian tawngkam chu a ui vak bik lo a nih hi. 😛

  71. 121
    Art-a Says:

    HUizzz….. no_nick chu ka fak zo chauh che a, finishing i va pe tawih ve !!

    no_nick Says:

    “religion system hi awm lo ta se Kristian hi a dik ber i ti bik dawn miah lo ania”

    Hei hi dik lo. Kristianna hi religious system avanga lo awm ve ngawt a ni lo. Mi tak tak, historical figure, Pathian fapa-a inchhal a awma, chumi chu mi tam takin an zui a, a zui velo tute chuan a zuitute chu tiduhdahin, tih-el nan an hmingah christian an ti thin (antiokei khuaah). Chumi chu 1st century AD atang khan a amah zuituten a chanchin leh a zirtirna tam tak an ziaka, chumi canon chu Bible tiin an vuah ta a ni. Chu Bible chu Pathian thawkkhum anih avangin mihring rilru mak takin a hneh theia, tun thleng hian chu thiltihtheihna chuan hna a la thawk reng a ni.Chu lehkhabute atang chuan miin thutak an chhar thin a ni.

    Chutia a zuitu pawl chu an lo pun chak tak em avang khan sakhua ang thoin khawvelin a lo chhiar ve mai chauh a ni. A tirin sakhua angin a ding lo. Pawl/kohhran/ecclesia tih a ni mai thin. Mahse an koh elna christian tih chu an hnawl ta lem bik lo a ni.

    Chutichuan religion hi awm lo pawh nise (i argument angin) Kristianna hi chu a awm dawn tho tho. A foundation hi a nghet em em a ni. Nang zawk kha tuna i dinhmun kha chu foundation engmah awm lo a ni zawk a sin. Logical tak pawha ngaihtuah chuan foundation nei ve miah lo ai chuan foundation nghet tak chunga din Kristianna hi innghahnan chuan a tha fe zawk. Innghahna engmah i nei ve hleinem.. i rinthu bak!

  72. 122
    no_nick Says:

    @121 Art-a: ka rinna hi ka foundation chu a ni mai dawn lo ami?? a nang chu i rinna kha kristianna ani a, kei chu a ni ve lo tihna a ni theiang em…. aa a engpawh chu nise sawi tam tawh lovang.. kan inhmin dawn chuang lo..!!

    ka rilru put hmang ang chi hi an awm tam vak lo a ni ange..!

    Religiona awm lo mah se kristianna hi a awm dawn tho tho aa..

    120 khi chhiar teh.. Khi khi thudik lutuk anih khi…!!

  73. 123
    Art-a Says:

    Tehreng mai no_nick..

    Ka sawi nawn leh ang: “religion hi awm lo pawh nise (i argument angin) Kristianna hi chu a awm dawn tho tho”

    Isua Krista kha awm lo se Kristianna hi engti kawng mahin a piang lo ang tih tlukin hei chu a chiang.

    Karl Marx leh Marxism i thenhrang thei lo ang chiahin Isua leh Kristianna hi thenhran theih a ni lo. Tin, Richard Dawkins a thusawi ve mai mai ai chuan Isua leh a tirhkohte thusawi ka ring fe zawk. Isua zirtir Thoma kha India ram a lo kal tih te i hria em.. a hnuhma pawh south lamah khuan ala awm nual mai. Isua chanchin sawiin India ramah a rawn martar a sin. Nang i ideology hi i martar pui ngam ang em? .. tawngmawi lo-ah lo ngai lo hram la, ka rinnaa ka fiah zia sawi chian nan, kei chu ka ngam a sin.

  74. 124
    Prof. Snake Says:

    zoho-a rawn telve se tha tur ania aw…

  75. 125
    no_nick Says:

    kristian angin i la tawng zel mai.. huihaaa…!! Muslim ulh tak rawn tawng se.. i sawi khi a pawm lo hulhual ang..

    Pu art, sawi tam tawh lo mai ang.. kei pawh kan logout tawh ang e.. chaw tui deuh chhum ila ei teuh ila kan hlim ani mai.. lolzzz

  76. 126
    H.Vangchhia Says:

    Min be rawh u, tichuan keiin ka biak Pathian hnenah ka hruai dawn che u nia akekekekekeke

  77. 127
    Art-a Says:

    Circular argument bawk maw? I thusawi ka chhanga, Kristian angin a tawng loh theih loh a lawm.

    “a dik leh dik loh chu nang mah pawh i chiang chuang miah lo a nia..!!” i ti a, ka chian zia ka rawn sawi mai a lawm. I chian loh avang khan chianglo turah ngati nge midang i ngaih tlat kher? 😛

    Nia chaw ei ila a tha ang.. tui deuhin ei rawh!!

  78. 128
    Mx Says:

    Ekhai, in lo bo vek tawh elaw…? Comment te chhiar ava nuam hlawm em! Engmah sawi ve tawhlo mai ang 😀
    He post anga post tha leh comment chhiar nuam hi kar khatah vawi khat tal awm ziah thei se ka ti hle mai..
    (Y) (Y) (Y)

  79. 129
    Whatever Says:

    Post tha khawp mai (Y) (Y)
    Ngaihdan nei theuh kan ni boka…religion lam hi chu proof lam nilovin rinna lam anih angin kei chu kan sakhuana hi ka ring lo ngam lo, hriatthiam phak piah lam thil, awih loh ngamchi nisilo, hlauhawm viau bawk si, heiden rial overlai .. Va buaithlak thin tak em ;-( aw sori over, comeby my zion ka ngaizual thin mai zawk teng.

  80. 130
    ReMpYâ„ Says:

    Art-a chu once upon a time in misual.com a kan inhnial laia i nawi ang khan i nawi toh miah lo anih hi..hahihi 😛 i comment te ka support thlorh2 mai niloin keimah poh ka harh belh hawk2 nia.. Hetiang lama doubt nei ten chhiar ve ngei teh se, comments ho hi

  81. 131
    bk Says:

    Ava ngaihnawm ve le….

    Ka’n komen ve dawn a, a sei dawn lutuk in ka hria, hei hi (Y) ni mai teh se.

  82. 132
    chhangte_ll Says:

    Tuemawni Krismas tuk a thusawi bung li a then, chawhnu dar 2 her liam hnua bung 2 na ah lut ang vel anih hi mawle. Keini ang ngaihtuahna leh suangtuahna pianpui lo tan chuan a va han bo theih map map ngai veleh :-S ;-( 😀

  83. 133
    Art-a Says:

    no_nick Gd morning 🙂

    A tangkai ang em chu ka hre lova, engemaw tizawnga a lo tangkai tak mialin hmana Pakistan lam unaute nena email kan inthawn hi ka’n share mai mai ang che….

    Dear Dr. Tahira,

    I am a Christian research student from North East India, immensely interested in the topic of life after death and NDE (near death experience). I recently came across an article on the
    internet about a man named Shahid Siraj Din (allegedly your brother) who was reported to have a NDEs in which he encountered angels and a demon, as well as Jesus Christ. Further, the website claims to have reproduced a letter from the Aadil Hospital confirming that Shahid was indeed dead. Moreover, it seems that this experience completely transformed Shahid’s life prompting him to give up his job as a property developer, and, with his sister, Dr Tahira Saleem, set up the Shekinah Churches and Shekinah Bible Institutes in Lahore and Quetta, Pakistan. Could you please kindly confirm if this story is true ?

    In Christ, xyz

    Reply:

    Dear Xyz

    Greetings from Pakistan
    My name is Rev. Dr. Asher Saleem son of Dr. Tahira Saleem and newphew of Rev. Dr. Shahid Siraj Din – I confirm all that you’ve written regarding the NDE of Shahid true and that all the reports are genuine – I myself am a product of this testimony and my life has been completely changed, not only my life but life of all those who were in close contact whith him – He was called home by Heavenly father on 14th Feb. 1998

    Rest you know
    God Bless You
    Rev. Dr. Asher Saleem
    Founder Member Shekinah Ministries Pakistan

  84. 134
    Art-a Says:

    @ReMpY,

    Ka nawi ngaiin ka la nawi reng.. a khal tak tak theih loh a nih hi 😛

  85. 135
    no_nick Says:

    133@Art-a: Good Morning…!! Kan lo la ti laih laiha ni maw…!!

    You have given me this example.. I appreciate…!! Mahse… “Mahse” kan ti leh tlat teh ang…!!

    Khiting example khi chu a awm zeuh zeuh..! For instance even in mizoram kum 2001-2002 chho bawr vel khan inlarna an hmuh sup2 kha.. khawihthluktheihna etc.. kha chu a takinka hmu ve a, mak ka ti..!!

    Khang thil rawn thleng kha ka hriatthiamna piah lam a ni…!! Parda (curtain) ah angel thla a lang tih te, vanah Isua thlalak a lang tih te.. Lots of things..!!

    Khatih hunlai khan ka thiante ngei pawh kha an khawihthlu thei sup sup anih kha. a mak hran love..! Rilru thil a ni maithei… Pathian hmuh phet tum te kha an tam tak tak asin.. Heng thil hi chu Psychologist ten an explain thiam ka ring…!!

    More perspective… apart from Christianity….
    Engtik kumah mawni khan Hindu Pathian ho chuan bawnghnute an in an tih kha.. (1995-1997 bawr vel ani maithei) News ah te pawh a lang nasa.. Mizoram a mandir thenkhatah ngei pawh bawnghnute a in e an ti… lolzz… A hunlai kha chuan kan awih ve vawng vawng mai anih kha..

    One more, Islam ah pawh Allah a hming kha vanah a inziak tih vel te pawh a awm tawh kha…!! Mecca- ah Angel a thlawk tih te hriattur a awm tawh kha…

    Pu Art-a, I thil rawn sawitum hi chu ka hrethiam khawp mai..! Khimi hawi zawng pawh khian ka lo ngaihtuah tawh thin asin.. But eng religion-ah mah bias miah lova ka ngaihtuah hian “Claim about facts” a tam lutuk hian a ti complex zual…!! 133 a i rawn sawi khi truth a ni lo ka tihna nilovin, khitiang khi sakhaw dang ringtute pawhin truth anga sawi an awm ve a nia..

  86. 136
    Prof. Snake Says:

    no_nick-a ngaihdan atanga ka rilru a lo awm daih chu…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xB4dbdNSXY

    He hla atang hian ngaihdan tlemte a import aniang. 😛

  87. 137
    Art-a Says:

    Conclusion siam nan emaw proof text anga hman ka tum lem lo tih chu i hriatthiam ka ring. Vantirhkoh hmuhte, Mari apparition, alien sighting te nen chuan bawm khata khung chi chu an ni lo in ka hre deuh.

    Christianity against zawnga inchhiar zau peih viau si, a dik thei dah law maw tia investigation unbias tak i nei duh miah lo hi chu ngaihdan chin che ka nei ta (NOI). I zawng tak tak lo a ni e thianpa. Pathian hi I duh bawk hek lo. A pawi ka ti khawp mai, ka peace out tawh ang e. Rorelna niah thiam loh chantir i nih hlauh pawhin mahni lo chu dem tur i nei lo tih erawh i in hriathiam ka bei sei e. Isua chanchin hi kan thiam ang tawka sawitura tih kan ve ringawta, mi va convince tura tih kan ni bik lo. An pawm leh pawm loh chu anmahni decision a ni.

    Ka thahnemngaihnaah i huatthu ka lo sawi a nih chuan khawngaihin min ngaidam dawn nia. Misual, khawngaihnaa chhandam mai ka ni a, ka tawngkamte hi tuihnai lo a tam fo thin tih hi chu ka hre ve tho a nia, insiamthat tumin rinnain hmalam ka la pan ve tawk tawk anih hi.

    God Bless you !!
    Peace Out…

  88. 138
    ReMpYâ„ Says:

    very ngaihnom. Hetiang post hi om leh roh se 😛

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