Awle,tun tum chu chhandamna i han sawi khawm dawn teh ang u.Chhandamna hi a pawimawh em em a. Kan thiltih that avanga kan hlawhchhuah ani bok silova. A thlawn liau liau a amah ringtu te chu thiam chantir kan nihna hi a tello chuan Pa hnen a thlen theih siloh va.keini ho zingah pawh hian la piangthar/piang nawn lo kanlo la awm mai thei a.Kan awm anih chuan Lalpa hnena kan kir ahun tak zet zet ani.
Awle,chhandamna chungchangah hian khawvel zau zawk chu sawi loh, kan zoram zimte ah poh hian a in anglo thei em em mai a. Thenkhatin chhandamna chu thil tha tih a hlawhchhuah antum bok a.thenkhat erawh chuan Lal Isuan min chhandam vek anti bok a.a la tam mai. Kan sawivek senglo vang a. Chu CHHANDAMNA,Mihringte hnena lo thlenga hi a NGHET (SECURE) tih leh a BO leh thei ani tih ngaihdan a awm a.
John 10:28 “An hnenah chatuan nunna ka pe a,chatuanin an boral lo vang a,tuman ka kut atangin mi chhuhsak hek lo vang”tih kan hmu a. He chhandamna,Lalpa ta hi a nghet a. A bo leh thei tawhlo ani. Amah Krista ringtu apiangten CHATUAN NUNNA (ETERNAL LIFE) an nei. Eternal awmzia kan hriat theuh ka ring.”tawp neilo” ani top mai. Pawl leh Kohhran thenkhat ten a bo theih thu kan in zirtir a. Thiltha tiha vankai tumna Mat 7:21ff ami angkha kan tam ta hle ani. He chhandamna hi a nghet tok a. Bo leh thei ani tawh lo.
Lal Isuan ka kut ata tuman min chhuhsak theilovang a tih hi a thlamuan thlakin a rinawm tawk em2 ani. Thenkhat erawh chuan “ka chhandamna a bo thei toh lo,khawnge ka duh2 danin khawvel kan chen teh ang” tiin,zu in,uire,rukruk,eiruk….atam mai,inthiamnan an hmang thin. Hei erawh ka soitum anilo. Zirtirna diklo ani. Amah erawhchu Lalpan min chhandamna erawh chu a nghet a. A bo thei lova. Chu chhandamna changtu te chuan a chhandamtu duhdana awmturin,nitin atan a nung thin ani. Tisual palh thei, tlu palh thei erawh an ni a.amaherawh chu anlo tluk palh pawhin,an chhandamna erawh a bo lo. Lalpa lam hawini an nei leh thin ani.
Tin,a bo thei twh lova, keimahnin kan bosan thei tih a awm bok a. Hei hi nguntaka ngaihtuah chuan a BO thei tih nen a in ang reng ani. Sawi dan adang ani mai chauh. Kan bosan nilovin,kan tluksan zok thin ani. A bo thei tìh kawltu te hi chuan a bo thei ankawl avangin anla tibo tak tak mai ang tih a hlauhawm hle ani. Awle ka thian duhtak, Krista min chhandamna,thiamloh chantirna laka min chhuah zalenna ropui zia hi i hre chiang em le.Rom 8:1,14,35. Lalpa ropui ber rawh se. Amen
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
“ ‘Lalpa, Lalpa’ mi ti nazawng chu van ramah an lut lo vang a; ka Pa vana mi duhzawng titu erawh chu an lut ang”
Heng thu te hi i hnawl hmak mai a ni maw? A thu hnawl tute hi a hnawl ve dawn tih a sawi asin.
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Lalpa Lalpa ti tu nazawng te hian Lalpa an ring vek Kherlo
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
nell_maiden said : Nia Isua hriat leh Isua rin tih hi thil inang a ni reng reng hleinem.
Lol.. a tawngkam chu inang lo e.. a awmzia a lawm kan sawi.
A thu i zawm loh chuan Amah chu i hre lo tihna a ni a, i hriat lohva chu i ring thei i tihna emni a ? Bible chuan ‘an hriat lohva chu engtin nge an rin ang’ a ti asin. Bible i kalh ve hrim hrim a nih kha.. theih loh a tih thei i ti a, thei a tih theilo i ti thung a !!
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Ka sawi zawk chu Ka rin tawh hnu hian thil ka tisual leh thei tho. Mahse kha ka tihsualna avang khan ka chhandamna a bo lo.
Petera kha, Isuan Vana in hming ziak a nih avangin lawm rawh u a ti, ramhuai te an hnawhchhuah a an lawm em em lai khan.
Mahse khami hnu khan Petera khan thilsual a la ti nasa lutuk.
Vawi thum ngawt a la phat. A tholeh hnu ah pawh a la tisual. Paula meuh pawhin a zilhhau kha. Mahse a chhandamna a bo chuanglo.
Chu chu a ni ka sawi tum chu. Pathian ringtu tak2 te chuan chhandamna a bo lo.
Kan tihsual rual rual a kan chhandamna a bo leh si te chuan, engnge Isua lo kal kha a hlawkna?
Thuthlung Hlui hunah pawh an thil thra tih in an inchhandam tho alawm.
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Mapuia07, Aw le, tih atanga thuziak intan hi chhiar a chakawm loh duh
NOI
Punctuation uluk hram hram ang u tih kha i chhiar ve lo nge, i thiam lo hrim hrim zawk, nge i uluk lo bon thuai thuai?? I thuziak chhiar a harsa khawp mai. A thu a that vei nen.
I thuziak hi ka pawm hlawm viau a, mahse chhandamna ‘bo’ thei tih lai hi a duh tan chuan ‘a bo’ tih theih chu a ni ve thovin ka ring. ‘Rinna avanga khawngaihnaa chhandam’ kan ni tihah hian chiang ila, ‘Chu thil tha tih chu kan awmna turin Lalpa’n a buatsaih lawk a ni’ tih hi chiang bawk ila, tluksan leh bosan a awm lovang.
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
keipawh funny funny min ti nazawng hi ka huanah ka luh tir dawnlo reng reng. :lol:
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
@nell_maiden:
Tih sual chu awm thei tehreng mai.. chutah chuan ngaihdamna pawh a awm nghal tih min hrilh alawm. Tih sual rual rual a chhandamna bo lam a ni hleinem ka sawi. Ringtu tu mah hi Krista rin hnu a tisual tawh miah lo kan awm lo. Mahse chu suala awm zui zel leh zel loh thu ani ka sawi. A diklo tih hre reng chunga sim duhna leh tumna nei miah lo ani ka sawi.
Khawvel ah leh Mizoramah ngei pawh chutiang chu an tam a ni. Isua pawh an ring ve em em.. ringtu a inchhal ve tho anni tlat alawm.
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Hmana Herald For Christ speaker Faktea sawi kha ka la hre reng. Suala tlu tih hi Hmeichhia kawng nala tlu ang deuh hi an nia, an tho leh nghal vat thrin. An tho leh nghal mai lo anih chuan,an la piangthar lo a ni ngei ang. Piantharna pawh hi a diktakah chuan Mihring atranga chhuak a nilo, Pa lam a ni. Mihring lama chhuak chu an tlu hlen nge nge ang.
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April 9th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Hei tak hi a ni renga.. ringtu dik tak leh piangthar dik tak hi keini lo sawi leh hriat phak leh teh theih a ni tlat lova. A hretu chu Pathian chauh a ni. Chuvang chuan ringtu tan chhandamna a bo theilo tizawnga thu vawrh hi a him tlat lo a ni. Ringtu tak tak, Pathian chhinchhiah tawh tan chuan thuhran nisela, ringtu kan inti theuh mai si a, ringtua inchhal nazawng tan hi chuan a bo theih zia hi Bible ah leh a tak pawhin kan hmu nitin anih si hi.
Ringtu tak tak hi mihring ten kan thliar theih loh avang hian hetiang zirtirna hi chu a himlo tlat a ni. Evangelist leh Pastor te sawi ngat phei chu mipui hian kan awih lehzuala, mipui hruai sual thei thil a ni tlat.
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April 9th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
@Nell maiden,i ti dik.stand firm ok.keini mihring chuan kan thlarau lam nun chu kan in hmuhsak theilo.piangthar inti na zawng kan sawi hek lo.GENUINE believer,Bible in PATHIAN FATE tia akoh bikte hi ani kan sawi ni chhandamte kan tih chu.Chunglamin KAFA atih tawh hi chuti mai2a BO thei ani tawh lo.Krista hnenah thuhrukin a awm.KOL 3.Engkim hria leh ti thei chuan ahnena thuhruka awm chu ati bo lo tawp ang.a tibo hek lo.
Tin,once saved,always saved mai nilovin,ONCE SAVED,ETERNAL SAVED.Krista thisen hlu luang chhuak hi a powerful a,a effective bok.
Mat 7:21 amite ho hi chu GENUINE BELIEVER ni hek lo.an ni hi chu kan sawi lo ania.
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April 9th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
@Mapuia #39, Lalthutthleng Var hmaa rorelna hi ringtute tan chuan ni lo ve…ka sawi tum tak zawk chu “Once Saved, Always Saved” ho kha he mi group-ah hian an tel ve nual tho mai awm mang e ka ti mai mai a nia!
Dispensation chungchangah hian i sawi dik khawp mai. Keini ang duang chuan kan hre thuk lo khawp mai. Remchangah chiang deuh zawkin min la zirtir ve dawn nia! Keima hriat thiam tawk te tea ka lo indah ve danah chuan “Pre-tribulational premillennialism” pawmtu ka ni e.
Kan thu kal mekah erawh chuan a hma lama ka chhanna kha ka dinna a la ni reng.
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April 9th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Mapuia07 :
Pehhel kual kual lo khan i ngaihdan chu tlang takin han sawi teh;
Mi tupawh ringtu DIKTAK anih chuan engang sual pawh ti sela vanram a kai tho ang i tihna em ni ber? Ringtu diktak i tih pawh hi han sawifiah la ringtu diktak nih dan pawh chu han sawi nghal teh. Nangni ang zirtirna diklo thehdarh tu ho hi in hnawk tlat. Chhandamna a bo theilo bla bla in tia, in ngaihdan tuipui derin han sawpui che u ila, vawikhat chhandamna chang tawh chu a tlu thei tawh lo engang sual pawh khawih se ti hi in sawidan a ni. Ka kawm kual hnem ltk tawh che u.
A lehlamah Bible tan chhanin han hnial che u ila fing phakar takin ‘a bo ho hi chu ringtu tak tak anni lo’ in tih loh leh ‘la piangthar tak tak lo ani ang’ in ti a. Piangthar dik tak chu enge ? Bible in piangthar a tih chu enge han sawi teh. Isua rin awmzia pawh hi in hrefiah chiah emaw han sawifiah bawk teh.
Anania leh Saphiri te kha ringtu dik tak an ni nge nilo han sawi bawk la. Mi hmaah Pathian thu in sawi ngam anih chuan in theology hi ringtu te hian kan exam a thiang tih hi Bible zirtirna anih avangin hengte hi i chhan theih ka beisei.
PS: Hebrai 6:4-6 thu ah tihian kan hmu a ; “Tin, vawi khat rilru tihvara, van thilpek tema, Thlarau Thianghlim chantira, Pathian thu tha leh hun lo la awm tura thiltihtheihna tem tawh zeta tluksante kawng thu zawng – chu mite chu an simna turin siam thar leh rual a ni lo, Pathian Fapa chu anmahni tan khengbet nawn leha timualpho an nih avangin”
Rilru tihvar tawh, thlarau thianghlim pawh chantir tawh leh thiltihtheihna pawh tem tawh hi ringtu diktak ah i ngailo emni ? Hengmite pawh an bo thei anih chuan…. sawi tam vak ngaiin tawh in ka hre lo.
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April 9th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Heb 6 hi chu Chhandamna bo leh bo loh lam aiin tu tana thawn nge anih tih hi hriatfiah a thra. Hebrai mi Thuthlung Hluia hun anga la lungleng te tan a ziah a ni, Ni e, khang ho kha inthawina angah khan an kir leh hlauh vanga ziak a ni,. Sual la tlu nazawng sawina a ni lo. A bung pum khan chhiar thra leh rawh.
Chhandamna ah kan tih ve a tel a nih chuan keizawng Pathian hmangaihna hi a fiah zovin ka hrelo tlat. Kalsualna zawk a ni.
Hmanlai Roman Catholic te khan thil thra tih a inchhandam an chawi vung lutuk a, charity kohhran hnena pek kha chhandamna kawnga an ngai a, khami dodal khan Luther, Calvin te khan chhandamna hi rinna avang chauh sola fide tiin an rawn do ta reng a ni.
A ni chiah reng a. Donald i ngaihdanah hi chuan a chiang reng.
Chhandamna ah
Isua 50%
Mihring 50%
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April 9th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
nell-maiden : Chhandamna ropui ber awmchhun Messia phatsan lehna kha chhandam tawh an nihna ata an bona chu a ni zawk e. Messia lam atanga hloh ni lo, mihring lam atanga hloh theih a ni e. Puithiam Lalber Tholeh Krista rawngbawlna tluantling tawh diama kum AD 68-a tihnun thar leh an ni ta hlawm a nih kha!
Kan Zoram Christian thenkhat pawhin tlanna leh chhandamna Messia chu thawkkhat hrim hrim chu an lo pawm tawh; mahse, chhandamna Messia chu hnawlin siam thar leh rual ni tawh lovin liamkawn dangah an kal ta tlat a ni.
Tlannaah 100% hi Pa remruat a Fapaa hlenchhuah a ni.
Ringtute hian intlansiakna kan nei ta a, a tawp thlenga tlan a ngai a, kawng dik taka tlan a ngai bawk a, lawmman pahnihna leh pathumna a awm ve lo. Chhandam kan ni tawh, ni mekin kan tlan, chhandam tur kan nihna chu tawtawrawt pasarihna ham rik a nih hunah a ni dawn. Chhandamna beia tlan kan ni tawh lo va, lawmman (prize) uma tlan kan ni tawh zawk.
Condemnation, Justification kan zir chipchiar fu. Sanctification-ah kan fail tlangpui a; Glorification kan thlir dan a saisa! Zir ngun a ngai khawp mai!
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April 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
@nell_maiden:
Hebrai lehkhathawn kha chhiar chiang leh zawk la ka va ti em !
Hebrai mite tan chauh a nilo asin. Hebrai mite tan chauh nise Bible canon ah hian a tel lovang! Lehkhathawn dang zawng2 pawh hi midang hnena thawn vek nimahsela, ringtu zawng zawng tan ani tih hi i hriat ve atan ka duh hle mai.
Hebrai lehkhathawn bikah chuan Hebrai ziaktu hian entirna atan asin thuthlung hlui kha a hman. Khatia Aigupta atanga Pathianin a chhandam ang chiah khan misualte hi Krista chuan min chhandam a, Aigupta atanga hruai chhuah Israel faten thu an awih loh avanga ramtiam tumahin an lut lo (joshua leh kaleba tih loh) ang chiah khan, chhandam tawh ringtu inti te hian thu kan awih lo anih chuan ramtiam (vanram) hi kan lut dawn lo tia a warning na asin. Chhiar chiang rawh.
Lal leh chhandamtu a Isua pawm inti ve si, a thu awih lo chung khan vanram hi i lut dawn lo chiang lutuk tih hi Pathian hmingin ka hrilh a che. Zirtirna diklo i vuan lui tlat anih kha.
Pathian thu kan awih hi mahni chhandam nana thiltih a nilo. Khawngaiha min chhandamtu Pathian kan rin avangin ti tura min tih kan ti mai zawk a ni. A thupek anga ti duh lo tu hi ringtu ah Pathian hian a ngai lo.. ‘nangni thil sual titute u, ka hre ngai lova che u’ a tih turte anni.
Roman Catholic te kal sualna ber ‘indulgence’ leh Isua thuawihna hi chu sawi pawlh lo hram teh khai. Lei leh van ang vel a ni.
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April 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
@nell_maiden:
Presbyterian i ni em? NOI
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April 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
all right.inti piangthar kan sawi dawnlo ania.a chhan chu,”nangchu i piangthar,nangchu i piangtharlo” tiin mizawng2 kan thliar theilo.keinin piangthar tha viaua kan hriatte kha anlo piangthar lo mai thei.Lal Isua hminga thilmak ti thenkhatte poh kha keini chuan,a tak leh alem kan differentiate vek theilo ang.
Amaherawh chu,leilam mihring mai nilo,vanlam zawkin PATHIAN FATE tia a kohte hi a FATE an nilo leh thei anni dwn ami?
Ringtu diktak chu KRISTA tellova nun neilo tih inhria,Rinna avanga krista ruala tihnun leh khawngaihna a chhandam ani {EPH 2:6,8}.Ringtu chu,a thiltihte ang nilova,Pathian ruat leh a khawngaihna anga chhandam leh thimthuneihna laka lakchhuah ani {2Tim 1:9, Kol 1:13}.Ringtu chu,a mihringhlui KRISTA ruala kross a khenbeh,a thihnaa baptirma chang tawh,amaha krista nung tawh zawk hi ani {Gal 2:20, Rom 6:3ff Kol 2:12}Ringtu chu FA TAK,ROLUAHTU,CHI CHHE THEILO LAKA PIANGTHAR, PATHIAN hrin chu ani {Gal 3:28, 1Pet1:23,JOHN 1:13}.
anih leh chhandamna a bo thei anih chuan DAVIDA,PATHIANIN “ka thinlung ang pu mi ka chhar ta” atih pawh khan minu a uire a,a pasal ala thahsak zui a,anih leh LAL DAVIDA kha hremhmunah akal dawn tihna ani maw?HNAI LOVE, KAN SUALTE A HNENAH KAN PUAN CHUAN,KAN SUALTE MIN NGAIDAM TUR LEH KAN DIK LOHNA ZAWNG ZAWNG MIN TLENFAISAK TURIN ANI CHU A RINAWMIN A DIK ANI 1JOHN 1:9. Ava thlamuan thlak in,a va chiang ve.chhandamna abo leh lam ai chuan min ngaidam turin alo inpeih reng zawk ani.
Pa in fa alawm apiang avaw thin.Thunun loh fa tunge awm ngai?thununna tawkngailo ringtu a inchhal chu fatak ni lovin,SAWN anni.Chhandam faten thil anti sual theilo kanti lo a,an tlu palh thei.mahse chu chuan LALPA lam a hawitir leh thin.an chhandamna a bo lo.
Chhandamna bo thei kawl ho hi chuan anla bo ang a,keini a bo theilo kawltu,KRISTA hnena nun thuhruk te ho hi chu thlamuangtak a LALPA rawngbawl chungin kan hun kan hmang ang.
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April 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Pathian FATE tia Bible in a sawi hi thlarau hruaia awmte anni. Thlarau hruai awmzia i hria em ? Isuan ‘in hnena ka thusawi hi thlarau leh thutak a ni’ a ti a, chuvang chuan thlarau hruaia awm chu Isua thu anga awmte an ni. Isua thu anga awmlo leh ‘a thu kan zawm theilo’ titu te hi Pathian FATE tiin Bible in khawiah mah a sawilo.
Ringtu chu amaha Krista nung tawh zawk anih thu i sawi a, i ti dik e. Mahse Amaha Krista nung tih awmzia hi enge ? Krista thu anga nung tihna a ani. Ringtu chu Krista thuawihtu tihna a nih chu!
Ringtu chu mihringhlui KRISTA ruala kross a khenbeh i ti pawh hi a dik e.. hei pawh a awmzia chu mihring hlui khenbeh nihna pawmtu/ringtu, mihring hlui tisa duhdan anga nung lova, a thihsak tu duh dana nung tihna bawk a ni.
Davida khan minu a mutpui zui leh em ? hnai love, Pathian ngaihdamna a changa a sim anih kha.
Minu va mutpui la, a pasalin rawn phawkin rawn sat hlum che sela, chhandam i ni nge ni lo chu i hre mai ang. I tisual ‘palh’ pawi vawng vawng khawp ang le.
Huat thu ah la lo hram la.. mithianghlim lawr chungchang ah leh Lal tawngtaina chungchanga, i ngaihdan Pathian thu nen a inperh san ang chiah in, chhandamna chungchang ah pawh hian a in perhsan tih hi pawm thei hram teh. Bible nilo eng lehkhabu nge maw i chhiar thin le ? Paih vek la, Bible chauh chhiar teh.
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April 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
@donald presby pure ltk calvin a zirtirna pawm ka ni e.
Ni reng e,indulgence kha kohran tana charity alawm. Luthera khan galatia lehkhathawn a zir chian khan dik theiin a hre lo anih kha. Augustine 2 Luther to Calvin thleng hian predestination ringtu vek an ni.
I ngaidan hi chu john wesley a idea ani. Methodist i ni lo maw?
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April 9th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Davida sawi deh duah a ngailo. Thuthlung tharah Petera kan hmu alawm. Vana a hming ziak vek tawh khan vawi thum a phat leh. Pentikos a thlarau thianghlim a chan hnu pawn Paula zilhauh ngain a la awm leh.
A chhandamna a bo em?
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April 10th, 2010 at 12:10 am
@nell_maiden:
Pres maw i nih a? i awmna kohhran thurin pawh i hre lo a ni maw chu? Pres thurin 7 na ah chuan tihian kan hmu asin:
“Krista chu ringa a thu zawmtute chu chhandam anni a, sual ngaihdamna te, thiamchantirna te, Pathian fa nihna te, Thlarau thianghlim chenpuina te an chang a.”
Bible thu i pawm loh mai bakah i omna kohhran thurin pawh i hnawl anih chu mawle !!
Tin, pres hian Calvina zirtirna pawm mah ila, moderate calvinist kan ni a, Predestination hi kan pawm lo tih hi lo hre bawk teh.
Predestination chungchang hi i sawi duh anih chuan anihna tak hi i chiang chiah em ? Chhandam tur ruatlawk chauh a ni hleinem.. chatuana hremhmun kal tur ruatlawk thu pawh a keng tel asin. khawi zawk tura ruatlawk nge i nih a? I sawi hmangin Pathian thu zawm theilo i in ti a, Bible chuan zawm tur a ti si bawk si a, hrem hmun kal tura ruat lawk i va ang awm ve chuti anih chuan.. tiraw ? Hei mai pawh a la nilo, predestination hian Lal Isua kha mi zawng zawng tan a thi lova, mi tlemte Pathianin a ruatlawk te tan chauh a thi tih a zirtir tih te hi i hria em? [limited atonement] ila sawi zawm zel duh a nih chuan hyper-calvinism thurin zawng zawng hi kan lip se dawn nia.
Tin, Mizoram Pres te min hringtu hi Welsh Cavinistic-Methodist an nih miau avangin an zirtirnate hi kan la kawp tih pawh hi lo hre ve mai mai la. Min zawh takah chuan Pres ka ni ve bawk e.
A tawp berah chuan Davida chungchang kha chu nangmah concern loh thilah i inrawlh palh a ni e. Mapuia07 khan ka thusawi chhanan a rawn sawi chhuah avangin amah ka address na a ni a, midang ka address na thilah ka sawi leh sawi loh tur ilo sawi angai in ka hre lem lo e.
Tak a na.. Petera chungchuang thu i sawi a, Petera khan a sim chiang kher asin.. a phat nawn leh tawh lo thlarau thianghlim a chan hnu khan. Tihian a sawi zawk nghe nghe a sin:
“Kawng fel chu hriat hnua thupek thianghlim an hnena kawltir chu hawisan ai chuan kawng fel chu hre lo sela an tan a tha zawk tur a ni si a”
I pawm leh lo pek em ? Thuawih loh ai chuan thupek chu hre lo se a tha zawk tur a ti anih hi.. I hre kur tawh mai sia leh !! i zawm thei bawk silo a.. Petera hian a ti ve mai mai aniang tiraw ?
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April 10th, 2010 at 12:42 am
Ni reng e,hremhmuna kal tur nen lam hian a ruatlawk tih hi ka pawmdan ani. Ka hre lutuk tlat.methodist influence ka nilo.mizo presby by birth,calvinistc presby by faith ka ni.
Pathian hi engkimhrevek ani lo mi? Engkimhrevek chuan hremhmuna i kal tur leh tur kha i pian hma daih khan a hria em? Nge a probability chauh a hria. Einstein a twngkam hawh lok ila. God doesnt play with dice.there are no accidents,only purposes. Faroa khan a suahsual vangin israel fate chhuah a khap lo,Lalpan a thinlung a ti sak. An pian hma rengin jakoba kha Pathianin a hmangaih,esaua erawh a hua. Juda mipuite pawh khan an itsik em2 vang Krista khengbet an nilo,Pathian ruat ani.iskariota pawh kha a ruatlawk tho ani. A tam ltk.
Pathian hian future a hria em?tih zawhna hi ngun takin ngaituah la i var pawh mai ang
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April 10th, 2010 at 12:47 am
Duh lai2 chang refer i ching boka kan refer ve ange.
Marka 4:10-12 kha chhiar rawh.
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April 10th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Mahni kohhran thurin pawh hre lo khan Pathian thu chu hre awm takin awm tawh lo mai teh. Bible zir peih silo, mi thuziah a then azawng hre ve nil nel, tiang ho hi an buai ziah. Internetah wiki vela mi zawng dun dun lo khan, Bible ngei hi zir la i fiah ve mahna.
Isua Krista thuawih lovin vanram hi kai theih a ni lo. In pastor i duh chuan ilo zawt dawn nia. A thu hrimah a khawi zawk kal tura ruatlawk chu nge nia i han in hriat ve deuh reng reng a? vanram emni ? engtin nge ruatlawk i ni tih i hriat ? hremhmun kal tura ruatlawk i nilo tih pawh engtin nge i hriat ? Ruatlawk i nih tho tho chuan mahni duh dan dan in i nung mai emni ?
Chuanin, Pathian hian mi tlemte a thutiam hlenchhuah nana a ruatlawk avang hian (entirnan jeremia te, Paula te, Faroa te, Iskariota te) mi zawng zawng chantur hi a ruatlawk thu Bible hian vawi khat te pawh a sawilo. A ring apiang chhandam annih tur leh a ringlo chu an boral tur thu erawh vawi tam a sawi. Mihring duhthlanna hi ruatlawk ai chuan a sawi tam feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee zawk !
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April 10th, 2010 at 1:22 am
Marka 4:10-12 thu hian a zirtir i hrethiam na nge?
Predestination nilovin, tihtakzeta amah zawngtu leh a thu ngaihven tute hnenah hriat thiamna a pe thin tih a zirtir anih hi.
“Tin, fianriala a awm laiin sawm leh pahnihte leh a thuihruai dangte chuan tehkhin thute chu an zawt fiah a” tih a ni a.
A zawt fiah tute hnenah a hrilh fiah anih chu. Amah zawt lemlo leh amah aia midang ring zawk tute chuan an hrefiah dawn lo a, an boral dawn a ni. Bible zir peih silova midang thuziak chhuang zawk tute pawh a huam telin ka ring deuh !
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April 10th, 2010 at 2:33 am
‘Ruatlawk’ theology hi zirtirna dik lo leh hlauhawm tak niin ka hria. Pathian chuan engkim hi a hre lawkin a hre famkim vek tehmeuh mai. Amaherawhchu, mihring chungchangah hi chuan DUHTHLAN theihna neia min siam avangin, “Amah chu tupawh a ring apiang an boral lohva chatuana nunna an neih zawk nan”, tiin Pathianin Chhandamna Lal Isua Kristaah a rawn siam ta a ni.
Thuthlung hlui atanga tunlai hun thlengin Zawlneite leh thuhriltuten thahnemngai taka mite hnena Pathian thu an hrilna chhan pawh Pathian thu hi ‘ruatlawk’te tan chauh ni lovin, mi zawng zawng tan a nih vang a ni.
“Ani chu mi zawng zawng Chhandamtu a ni a, a ringtute Chhandamtu a ni deuh ber mai”. (1 Tim. 4:10)
Vanram kal tur leh hremhmun kal tur hi ruatlawk vek ni ta se:
1. Isua Krista kraws-a a thih a tul lo vang.
2. Pathian ring tura inzirtir a tul lo vang. A ruat lawkte chuan an ring dawn tho!
3. Missionary tirh chhuah a tul lo vang. A ruatlawkte chu chhandam an ni dawn tho!
4. Nitin Kraws pua Lal Isua zui a tul hek lo vang.
5. Mahni duh dan danin kan awm tawp ang a, Pathian thu zir leh tawngtai pawh a tul lo vang.
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April 10th, 2010 at 2:38 am
#76 : Amen.
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April 10th, 2010 at 3:27 am
Hman deuh a post ah keipawn ka lo sawi ve niah niah tawh kha mawle.
Ramdang zin dawn in visa kan mamawh ang hian Isua hi kan vanram visa a ni. Ramdang zin theihna visa nei tawh mah ila, kalkawng ah tawh sual tawkin, thleng hman lovin kan thi thei. Chutiang deuh bawk chuan Isua zarah vanram kan tan kalkawng inhawng tawh mahse, vanram kan panna kawng, hringnun kawng chho ah hian kan thlarau chu vanram thleng zo lovin a boral thei tho.
Ka han sawi ve mai mai a ni e.
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April 10th, 2010 at 9:32 am
@donald,minu mutpui eng ang mah ila ka chhandamna a bo theilo tih zawngin ka sawi hauh lo.Nie,Davida pawh khan ati sual ngei.a chhandamna abo lo.Krista thu zawmlo in,van akai theih kanti hauh lo ania.Krista thuzawm hi Ringtu diktak responsibility ani reng ani.amaherawh chu han tihsual palh zeuh chu annei thei.mahse antih sualah inchhirin LALPA hnenlam ankir leh thin.sual tih inthiam chan na lam anilo.
@donald,ka rindanin kan thupui,CHHANDAM FATE ah hian inti piangthar,Lalpa hminglamtu te,mahse LALPA HRIAT SILOHTE Mat7:21 ami angte ho kha kan thupuiah hian i rawn rinlut tel anih ka ring.Pathian FAtak nihna changtawh te hi chuti maia an bo theìh i ring ami?a chhandam te kha a chhandam lehlo thut dawn em ni?
FATAK te pawh in thil anti sual thei.mhs an chhandamna bo ta bible ah kan hmu lo.Davida,petera,lota,nova..etc an tam mai.mhs PATHIANFA TAK te chuan Lalpa lam an hawi leh vek.
Tin,vanram leh KANAN hi tehkhin theih anilo.Kanan chu indona ram,an rah chin apiang anram anihna kha ani.KANAN hi THLARAU nun ram entir na ani zok.
Anih leh KANAN kha vanram anglo nita sela,MOSIA kha KANAN alut ve silova,MOSIA chu hremhmunah kan vui liam ani maw?ka unau,iti sual hret ani.
Tin,tawngkam mawilo tak hi hman i chinglo ang u.Pathian thu kan sawi ho ang tak hian tawngkam hawihhawm deuh zok i hmang hram2 ang u.keipawh in rilru tina zawnga thu kalo chhakchhuak palh anih chuan in mi ngaihdamna ka han ngen nghal bok e.
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April 10th, 2010 at 10:53 am
@Mapuia07 leh nell_maiden, ruat lawk te chu tute nge? Hremhmun leh vanram thleng tur hian eng kawng nge zawh tur? Ruat lawk te chuan eiruin, tualthatin, thenawm khaw veng te nek chepin, rethei chanai te chhuhsak se, sim chuang siloa a thih chuan vanram a kai tho dawn tih na em ni? Pathian hian duhsak bik a lo nei teh reng em ni? Mi tin an thil tih ang zel a rorel sak an ni ang tih kha ziak a ni bawk si a.. Isua Krista khan khawvel boral mai tur a thisenin a tlan chhuak a, m in tlan tawh avangin chhandamna chu a bo thei lo, mahse vanram leh hremhmun a kal tur hi chu he lei a an nun dan hian a hril a ni zok lo maw? Isua, min tlantu, kan aia thi khan, tupawh ka hnen thleng lo chu pa hnen an thleng lo ang a ti lo maw? Isua hnen thleng tur hian engte nge tih a tih loh tur, engtianga nun/awm tur nge? Nge pian tirh atangin chiang sa? Pathian huat zawng tih palh zeuh laiin lo thi palh zeuh ta se?
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April 10th, 2010 at 11:33 am
“Ta se” tih tak hi chu in nghah nan hmang lo ta ila,”Tase” kan tih kha “lo ta se” tiin han dah mahla,a inhnial thla tlat.chuvang chuan “ta se, lo ta se” tih hi chu lo dahtha phot mai ila.
Tichuan,RUAT LAWK chungchang hi tute theology mai nilovin,Pathian theology,decree of God ani a. Rom 8:28-30 ah leh Ephe 1:5,11 ahte khan chiangtakin kan hmu ani.Pathian hian vanram kal tur leh hremhmun kal tur a ruatlawk lam nilovin,Pathian engkim hre tu leh ruahman tu chuan,amah lal leh chhandamtua pawmtu tur leh hnawltu tur pawh a hre vek tih hi ringhlel lo i la.Tichuan,apostle Paula hian,chung Lal Isua pawmtu tur,Pathian in a hriatlawka te chu “a ruatlawk” ta ani.Rom 8:29 kha chhiar chiah la.chu2 ruatlawk awmzia ani.
Pathian hian a duhsak zawng2 aruatlawk ani lova,”nang ruatlawk i ni,nang chu ka ruatlawk lo che” tiin Pathianin a ruat ngailo a.a chunga kan sawi tawh ang khan,Pathian hian vanram kal tur leh hremhmun kal tur a ruatlawk lam nilovin,Pathian engkim hre tu leh ruahman tu chuan,Amah Lal leh Chhandamtua pawmtu tur leh hnawltu tur pawh a hriat vek avangin,Amah Ring duhtu leh pawm duhtu tur ate chu a “ruatlawk” ani.
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April 10th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Donald. Mahni kohran thurin rawn lak vawng vak hi ani ber lo a. Isua khan mitin ta tur chanchin thra a hril,mizoram presby. ta tr chauh aniln.pastor te phei hi chu an xavai hian an dik famkimlo. Rev. zairema khan Gen bu tir lam hi myth and legend ju han tia mawle. Chutiang bwk in chuathuama 2002 nilai thupui kha bible a xiak anga pawm lohna xirtirna bu ania,hal pawh an hal phah reng kha.
Presby thurin ka hriatchian em2 chu, thuthlung thar leh hlui te hi thiltih tehna dik lo theilo tih ani. Chuti chung chuan,a ziak ang2 hian presby pastor tam tak hian an pawm miahlo. Joba bu te hi tehkhin thu mai2 ah an ngai. In tih dinhmun thrat nan bible hi Vana tanga lo tla anilo te an la ti deuh2. Thurin nen chuan inpersan tawh tak ani.
Chuan bible hi hrilhfiah juah2 a ngailo,chumi khami tihna aniang th pawh a trulo. Amah a rawn thawk a,kan hrethm mai. Mihring fina a bible xir reng2 liberal ah an chuak ngei2. Passion of Christ movie a pilata nupui sawi kha hre reng. Pathian Thutak hi nagman i hrethiam mai anih loh chuan tuman an hrilhfiah lawng che. Amah thlarau a rawn chet loh chuan,bible pawh hi mi ti a tu mai ani. Kros thu chu boral mekte tan chuan atna ani.
Ka chang rawn refer ve juai kha a hrana hrilhfiah a ngailo.a chiang tawk ltk.
Hebrai lehkhathwn mah mi jong2 tana xiah anh chuan, Jeremia lehkhabu pawh hi jeremia chauh nilovin mi zawng2 tan ani lo emi? Nge Jeremia a ruatlawka bik kher tan?
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April 10th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
A tawpna a va ho leh si ve… Pathianin engkim a hria tih te chu; kristian inti tawh phawt chuan kan hre vek ang chu… Chuti a nih chuan kan lo buai ve na tur a awm lo tih na mi? I thil sawi hi a zui ral thak a lawm le…
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April 10th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
nell_maiden:
Bible hi hrilhfiah angai lo e a.. Lolz! I bo ve hle mai. Bo dawbol i ni ringot alom le. Bible hi hrilhfiah a ngailo anih chuan commentary siamtu zawng2 te hian an lo tisual der anih chu.. I hero John Calvina pawh telin.
I buai anih kha.. buai tak ini. I thu hi a inkalh zo vek a ni ber.
Tin, methodist i helh ve em em a, Kha i partner thusawi kha i hmu em ?
Mapuia07 said:
“Amah Lal leh Chhandamtua pawmtu tur leh hnawltu tur pawh a hriat vek avangin,Amah Ring duhtu leh pawm duhtu tur ate chu a “ruatlawk” ani” <—- hei hi anih hi methodist zirtirna chu, Arminianism ti pawn an sawi. Calvinism nena inperhsan dah mai ani. I rawn tan ve em em kha i helh ber zirtirna vawng tu anih kha.. Aaaa sawi tawh lo ang, i hrethiam tak tak chuang lo ang.. i bo thui mai mai.
Mapuia07 : “Pathian hian vanram kal tur leh hremhmun kal tur a ruatlawk lam nilovin,Pathian engkim hre tu leh ruahman tu chuan,amah lal leh chhandamtua pawmtu tur leh hnawltu tur pawh a hre vek tih hi ringhlel lo i la”
nell_maiden : “Ni reng e,hremhmuna kal tur nen lam hian a ruatlawk tih hi ka pawmdan ani. Ka hre lutuk tlat”
Hahaha.. tangdun chu anni ve sia !! an thu hi a inkalh tih pawh an hre der bawk silova.. a hahthlak e mai.
Peace out!
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April 10th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
@ Donald..a hmasaberah chuan tumah ka rawn tran biklo. Ka sawi tum zawk chu Bible hi Thlarau Thianghlim tello chuan hrilhfiah chi a ni lo ka tihna a ni. Chu thlarau thianghlim chu nangmah ah a thawh lo chuan i bo/buai tulh2 zawk ang.
Mifing ber te hian an chhut an chhut chuan Isua pawh awm lo angin asin an chhut.
Ka thusawi hnial mang silova..i tran em em pa rawn tih daih kha a trul ber lo.
Vawi khat leh chiah.
Hebrai lehkhathwn mah mi jong2 tana xiah anh chuan, Jeremia lehkhabu pawh hi jeremia chauh nilovin mi zawng2 tan ani lo emi? Nge Jeremia a ruatlawka bik kher tan?
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April 10th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Jeremia lehkhabu mi zawng2 tan anih loh thu tu nge sawi a?
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April 10th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
HEB 6:1,2 Chutichuan, Krista thu bul hril tawh lovin puitlin lam i pan ang u; thiltih thi simna te, Pathian lama rinna te, baptismate leh, kut nghah leh, mitthi thawh lehna leh, chatuana rorelna kawng lam zirtirna te lungphum chu phum leh tawh lovin.
6:3 Pathianin rem a tih chuan chu chu kan ti ngei ang
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Pathianin rem a ti ah ngai ila..(thubul sawi leh thin hi!).
Comment zawng zawng ka chhiar a,a ngaihnawm hle hlawm mai.Khawvel mihringte zirtirna hian chanchintha hi a lo pawlh dal ve thin a,tuam lohva mawisa hi tuammawi phet kan tumna lamah hian a nihna kan hliahtir fo a ang zawk mah awm e.
Pawla pawl,Appolova pawl,Kipha pawl,Luther,Wesley,calvin ,vanawia,Zathangvunga- heng zawng zawngah hian thinlungah chanchintha neitu ber theihnghilh thakin a tuipui theih tihte pawh a lang zel a.
Chhandamna a bo thei lo tih leh a bo leh thei tih hi a dik ve ve na chen a awm tihte,predestination hi a dikna chen a awm tihte hi ka thlarau nun zin kawng a tang hian ka dai tawhin ka hria(mahse mi zawng zawng tan hriatthiam nghal a harsat thin a vangin thuhmahruai atan a vawrh vak erawh a him lo thei).Pathian hian mi mal tin nun hi a ngai hlu a,a tuipui em em bawk a-thawnthu angin leh lehkhazial angin chhinchhiahin a awm vek thin.Midang ziahsa leh sawi dan ring mai lova Krista ke bula a hruaina nena damlai khawvel kan zin kawng bik hi a pawimawh veng veng a nia.!
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April 10th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Thil dang vak a ni lo.. kan thu inchuh ber chu vanram kai tur hian Isua Krista thuawih angaih leh ngaih loh thu a ni.
Kei in a ngai ka ti a, Bible chang reference nen ka sawi a.. nell_maiden hian a ngailo a ti tlat a.. chu chu zirtirna dik lo anih thu ka hrilh mai a ni. Nih chu ni, nilo chu nilo in kal rawh se Pathian thu hi chu. Thutak leh dawt a inpawlh thei lo.
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April 10th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
“Tupawh Fa ring apiangin chatuan nunna an nei tawh; nimahsela tupawh Fa thu awih lo apiangin nunna an nei lo vang a, Pathian thinur an chungah a awm reng zawk a ni” – Jh 3:36
Hei baka chiang hi a awm thei dawn emni? Bible an hnawl a nih nghal loh chuan.
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April 11th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Ruatlawk Theology in tih hi ka naupan tet laiin tu min hrilh pawh ni lem lovin ka buaipui ru fu tawh. Pathianin engkim a ti thei a, engkim a hria kan ti a. Vanram kai tur leh kai lo tur pawh a hre lawk vek ngei awm sia. Pathian chu hmangaihna-a khat Pathian a ni a, duh taka a siam ve tho mi thenkhatte chu Chatuan hremhmuna paih turin a lo siam bik ang maw? Kum 10 ka nih lai vel khan ka buai ru thei khawp mai.
Mahse, Pathian hian mi zawng zawng hi A hnena kal turin min duh a. Kan duhthlanna hmang thei turin min siam bawk a. Kan thu-a thiamchang a, kan thu veka thiam loh chang turin min siam a ni. Amaherawhchu, mi zawng zawng hi Vanram kai tur kan ni dawn lo tih erawh A hrechiang khawp mai. Misual hremna tur a siam tlat.
Ruatlawk thu-ah hian ngaihdan deuh pakhat ka la neih fan chu mi thenkhat a koh bik deuh hi chu an awm a ni awm mange, ka ti (eg. Paula ang te hi) In ngaihdan ka hre law…
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