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Hmani lawk khan Central govt in Northeast neglect in i hria em tih thupui hmang in discussion ka initiate ve a, comments 48 zingah Northeast mi pakhat chauh a tel. India mainland mi ho in eng tin nge an rawn en tih comments vel lo chhiar a hriat ve ka duh avang hian hetah an ziah ang ang in ka rawn tarlang e.Hei lo comments ho hi lehkha thiam, dinhmun sang tak tak chelh te anni a. Zualbonez,gothica,funny, lai misualpa, fonz, zephaneth ho hian lo comments duh pawh ka beisei a.

DO YOU THINK NEW DELHI NEGLECT THE NORTHEASTERN STATES?

RIAZ KHAN; Firstly militancy started in Nagaland in the 50s, much before the ‘perceived’ alienation. Orissa is as much alienated from ‘India’[Delhi] as much as Mizoram, but people from Orissa don’t claim this problem. Delhi has never neglected the NE. I have lived in all the states of the NE. The people are very simple and happy with simple living.

Now the problem is when simple thinking people are bombarded with LG TVs and Cars, there is a huge clash of ideologies and creates confusion in minds of people. You can see the alienation and confusion if you observe the difference between Guwahati and the rest of NE.

All the funds required to go to the NE are getting leaked at Guwahati hence today it resembles a Pune or Bangalore with all the elite stuff while the rest of the NE hardly have any development. The other major problem is the huge inter racial divide between every small community in the NE. This causes extreme friction between the people causing a wastage of huge amount of money, effort and time for all.

God helps those who help themselves. If people decide on the path to progress, then things can change. By progress i don’t mean cars and TVs but better education and better living.

S.PHADKE;i would also like to add-on few points over & above what Shri. Riyaz said. It is all about selling, getting the attention, working on it 24/7/365. My own feeling about NE states is local political people elected by local people failed. Reason could be tons. They did not bother to visit rest of the India and did their analysis why these states are growing, why these states are being paid more, how come these states are demanding more + what ground, how come out of India people investing in these states & so on.

And this is not only applicable for NE states. It has happened in Maharashtra and still happening. Apart from Mumbai, Pune, Thane, Sangli, Satara, Kolhapur, Nashik, Auranagabad & Nagpur. Look at other districts. You will there is no difference between NE & these districts. Now why so? Very simple local people & elected leaders never took part in mainstream. i still remember about my own home town Kolhapur.

Local leaders opposed Tata’s & Bajaj for damn 20 years. In 2000++ they realised what they lost. Because when they opposed? It was Pune which got developed. It was Pimpri Chinchwad, then Chakan, then Ranjangaon, then Maval, Shirwal, then Hadapasar. From all sides of Pune district, development happened just like that. And today, all local people as well as their leaders are cursing. Because whatever people are now coming? They are not able to generate wealth the way Mumbai, Thane, Pune, Nashik, Aurangabad & Nagpur is generating.

Same situation You will also find in UP.
Same situation in Jharkhand
Same situation in Karnataka.
Same situation in Tamil Nadu.
Same situation in Kerala.
Same situation in Andhra.
Same situation in West Bengal
Same situation in MP & Chhatisgarh.
Same situation in Goa.

Right now i am forced to exclude Gujarat, Haryana & Punjab because of various others factors that did wonders. So fact of the life. The way we nurture kids & create smooth environment for that kid to grow. Similarly be it state or district or taluk place or village. Local people & elected people from them must read what others have done and they must start in their own cities/villages/states.

It’s like this. Bee always find flowers to drink honey. It is the responsibility of states/local people + elected people who need to create many gardens in their villages/cities/states where by large number of bee’s will run towards these gardens & settle down. SIDHARTH SHAH; What happened to Tata’s in WB has been happening with marwari’s in assam and nearby states for ages. The problem with regional an religional mentality is that they want to grow but want to put their culture’s at priority while unable to tolerate people of other cultural backgrounds making more money and being in charge of them. Then they retaliate with violence trying to take charge of resources what business minded people have acquired through their intelligence and hardwork. But can’t manage it due to lack of acumen.

The same has happened in Africa, zimbabe when they kicked out the whites, their own economy crashed. Money and infra development are quiet a culture and religion in themselves. What americans and europeas have understood long back, and most Indian regional and religional people haven’t yet understood. For the same reason people are unable to elect and send progressive thinking leaders to the parliament who cannot represent the exact situation and neither do proper allocation of funds and other resources recieved.

N. GAEKWAD; Similar thoughts as Siddharth. There is an issue of ‘Working Hard and receiving its fruits after a few years’ – this is called ‘Delayed Gratification’. Most of the people in the rest of the India work on this philosophy. So they are able to work extremely hard for years and years, saving money and then enjoy it later. People in the NE work on ‘Instant Gratification’ Philosophy. Earn today and blow it off by the evening. Sing, enjoy and have fun.

There is nothing wrong with this philosophy – it has its own plus points. But the problem comes when you want to sing, have fun, do nothing, yet you want a BMW which requires hard work, sacrifice, pain and delayed gratification.

Corruption then becomes a way out to get the BMW, which is rampant, If in other parts of India corruption is 40%, in the NE it is 80%. It is the people of NE who are gobbling up the money meant for the poor and needy. Another major problem is the Divisive Society. 99% of the leaders in NE behave like Tribal Chieftains. Inter Caste rivalries are bloody and nobody wants to Integrate with each other. The villages are demarcated and divided caste wise in separate clusters.

There is no integration within a district in the NE states itself, how should they expect to integrate with the rest of India. Integration is a two way traffic. It can’t be one way and as per one’s convenience.

BARNAILI BAISHYA;You urself seems to be a corrupted person. Dont give wrong immpressions to people writing this type of negative thoughts.First you should do some research work and write.Have you ever been to north east ?You should go and stay there for sometime . You don”t know the geography of India also ,north east comprises of 7 beautiful states. Its an example of unity in diversity….that u guys consider it as one state.You should work for betterment of countrymen and not criticizing without knowing the ground reality

GAEKWAD; am only answering issues raised in the context of the discussion. I have lived in every state of NE for quite some time, quite into the interiors. Probably you may not have been to the kind of places in NE I have been to.

I know the ground reality well. I have done my research work well, you can point out any one statement which is false in the list mentioned here.

I have a lot of respect for the people of NE. In certain aspects they are much better the mainlanders. Since this topic has come up . I will cover the positive issues in a subsequent posts since it will be improper to highlight only certain negative aspects.

SIDHARTH SHAH; The situation in the east is not much different from Kashmir. Although urban open minded population isn’t of the same ideology anywhere. If you go to Chennai, there too Marwari’s aren’t much liked by the localites. In Rajasthan if someone from Delhi comes to do business, most people would either find an excuse for not being interested or make them put money on the table first.

India is a very complicated place in terms of people and ideologies. These complications provide opportunities as well as risks to people. My cousins was posted as a Collector in Guwahati some time back and used to tell us that they never slept on the bed because there was always a risk of bullet being shot through the window even in the official residence. He was even shot at twice but luckily escaped.

I know of a few businessmen too who had flourishing business of tea gardens and petrol pumps in far east but had to return leaving everything over there due to daily life threatening encounters with militants who use used to extort exuberant security charges.

BARNALI BAISHYA; All the funds required to go to the NE are getting leaked at Guwahati hence today it resembles a Pune or Bangalore with all the elite stuff while the rest of the NE hardly have any development- I would like to comment on this ,how come funds for other states comes to guwahati.Please justify

I am not talking about any other sector…the education sector.Why we people have to go outside our state and seek an admission in engineering or any management or any sector college…that too they have to give donation and they have to study in a paid seat and why people in other state has 85 % of reservation criteria in their own state and we have to compete in remaining 15 % sector.I can see more than 200 colleges in everyother state across india .Wherelse no funding from government to open new colleges in N.E.

In jobs also we are not entartained in other states state government job.How come there is no reservation in our own state.We are enriched with natural resources,oil gas and tea sector in comparision to other states .But we people have to compete with whole india to get a job in our own state.Where do we go to get a good govenment job?Or they want to say the candidates are not capable…or what. Why government is not planning to enhanced the growth oppourtnities in our state.Why our natural resources are not utlized in a proper way? Simple answer no funding and planning from central government .Simply neglacted

This are only two very simple points,there are hundreds of other points…

‘Siddharth Shah sayd ” What happened to Tata’s in WB has been happening with marwari’s in assam and nearby states for ages. The problem with regional an religional mentality is that they want to grow but want to put their culture’s at priority while unable to tolerate people of other cultural backgrounds making more money and being in charge of them. ”

Have you gone through this proverb WHEN IN ROME, DO AS THE ROMANS DO.Its not that… the real fact is that were trying to put cultural change and also there are instances they were misbehaving with the locals.When India was ruled by britishers you object an outsider how they can rule us. So as if a marwari tries to rule group of assamese people its not acceptable.
The could have potray and worked in a more better way to work together for betterment of state .I think they have understood and 50 % of non assamese people are staying and enjoying there life and they don”t want to go back to there own state.
Go and ask any non assamese people,they will give very good feedback about people in Assam.They are really kind hearted people .

Violence have croupt up just because of one reason ……that is unemployment. Government should create new avenues and job oppurtunities for every everybody.

NARENDRA SINGH; Instant Gratification”! Isn’t it basic human nature by default? BTW what formula derive fun, singing and enjoying are related to corruption? I understand west also believes in “Earn for Today” Philosophy; does this mean they are tribal?>>>>>>>>>>>”Inter Caste rivalries are bloody and nobody wants to Integrate with each other.” Isn’t it similarity with rest of Indian region?

>>>>>>>>>>”There is no integration within a district in the NE states itself, how should they expect to integrate with the rest of India.” What other states in United India are integrated?

Unfortunately your views are example of very narrow mindset and you carry very wrong perception about NE states and people out there. I’m NOT sure on level of your research work but resultant must have all fakes . It’s not only government ignorance but also the mindset of people living in United India (Punjabi, Marathis, Gujrati, Kashmiri, Tamil, Bengali etc), who act based on wrong perceptions about NE.

JITENDRA JOSHI;Instant Gratification”! Isn’t it basic human nature by default? BTW what formula derive fun, singing and enjoying are related to corruption? I understand west also believes in “Earn for Today” Philosophy; does this mean they are tribal? >>>>>>>>>>>”Inter Caste rivalries are bloody and nobody wants to Integrate with each other.” Isn’t it similarity with rest of Indian region? >>>>>>>>>>”There is no integration within a district in the NE states itself, how should they expect to integrate with the rest of India.” What other states in United India are integrated?

Unfortunately your views are example of very narrow mindset and you carry very wrong perception about NE states and people out there. I’m NOT sure on level of your research work but resultant must have all fakes . It’s not only government ignorance but also the mindset of people living in United India (Punjabi, Marathis, Gujrati, Kashmiri, Tamil, Bengali etc), who act based on wrong perceptions about NE. Instant Gratification”! Isn’t it basic human nature by default? BTW what formula derive fun, singing and enjoying are related to corruption?

I understand west also believes in “Earn for Today” Philosophy; does this mean they are tribal? >>>>>>>>>>>”Inter Caste rivalries are bloody and nobody wants to Integrate with each other.” Isn’t it similarity with rest of Indian region? >>>>>>>>>>”There is no integration within a district in the NE states itself, how should they expect to integrate with the rest of India.” What other states in United India are integrated?

Unfortunately your views are example of very narrow mindset and you carry very wrong perception about NE states and people out there. I’m NOT sure on level of your research work but resultant must have all fakes

It’s not only government ignorance but also the mindset of people living in United India (Punjabi, Marathis, Gujrati, Kashmiri, Tamil, Bengali etc), who act based on wrong perceptions about NE.

N.NARANG; I have briefly read through the comments – I do not know how my competency compares with the thought leaders here, but serving for four years in numerous locations in Manipur, Assam, Nagaland, Arunachal, Mizoram, and having been to Shillong,I can vouch for the yearning of the majority people to preserve their essence and self-esteem from degradation.

Having interacted with large popoulations and making many friends, I can assure you that beneath the depravity and aloofness lie rich, supressed cultures and some fine traditions.

Go back to history to understand how the Britishers cleverly got these states under the Crown, and how unmindfully they amalgamated the states into the Union of India without ensuring even the basic communication links. Go a bit forward from there to u derstand how unmindfully the Indian Government administered the ‘NEFA’ and the ‘seven sisters’ without opening the doors of development and progress to the extent required.

In fact, I would say that the Indian government did not even administer the Northe Eastern States as well as the Britishers administered India. And by the time the govt realised and started taking interest, there were other players as well – politicians turned opportunists, militant groups, and segments of population made sick and lazy without jobs.

Howmany of us can actually differentiate between a Naga, Meiti, Bodo and an Assamese? How many of us know that there are 26 tribes in Arunachal and 16 tribes in Nagaland?

Similarly there have been no efforts to enliven the north eastern states with enough knowledge of the rest of the country, but still the awareness on the other side is much more, even if for economic reasons. North East India is surely a neglected region, and there needs to be a concerted drive by New Delhi, purely in its own interests – in fact there is a lot to learn from Islamabad’s desire to exert influence in Kashmir, purely for strategic reasons (objectively speaking).

A.H.QURESHI;As I said I also need to highlight the aspects of People of NE from which the Mainlanders must learn and there is a lot to learn ::

– Respect for Women – If anyone wants to see what REAL respect for women means, then they should visit the NE states. You may be surprised to see that women can move about freely with independence any time of the day/night without being hijacked or harassed. To the extent i have seen women on the highways can just stop a truck and take lift in the truck and reach home safely.

As I said I also need to highlight the aspects of People of NE from which the Mainlanders must learn and there is a lot to learn ::

Things like Eve teasing and molestation are unheard of. The respect for women is reflected in the High Female to Male ratios, low crimes, no bride burnings etc..

Compared to this, the mainland people only pay a lip service to the aspect of respect for women.

Of course some of you could defend the mainland culture by saying that these cases happen only one in a lakh, but then it could also be like saying that our Atomic Plants are 90% safe.

– Literacy – Mizoram is No 2 state in India for literacy, with very well run primary and secondary schools. Participation of girls is very high. This is something we can learn from.

– Cheating – Pompous behaviour – The people are very simple and they don’t have the habit of cheating and swindling unlike the mainlanders. People don’t believe in showing of like – “My neighbours son’s marriage party had 59 dishes so my son’s marriage should have 159 dishes”. Most of the functions like marriage etc are very simple.

– Status Consciousness – People are not status conscious at all – Nobody in the NE says ” Too jaanta nahin mera baap kaun hai.”…

As I said I also need to highlight the aspects of People of NE from which the Mainlanders must learn and there is a lot to learn ::

– Respect for Women – If anyone wants to see what REAL respect for women means, then they should visit the NE states. You may be surprised to see that women can move about freely with independence any time of the day/night without being hijacked or harassed. To the extent i have seen women on the highways can just stop a truck and take lift in the truck and reach home safely.

– Status Consciousness – People are not status conscious at all – Nobody in the NE says ” Too jaanta nahin mera baap kaun hai.”…

SANJEEV; india can add so much to its annual GDP if the policy makers sitting in New Delhi tapped into the full potential of the North-Eastern states. But nevermind that… As investors we are already looking at developing and funding various infrastructure projects in the North-Eastern parts of India.

I think the private sector players in India have a lot to gain and offer if they expand in the north-eastern states……I don’t think Politicians have the answer. We are looking at North-East not because we believe New Delhi will throw us a carrot ..it is a BUSINESS DECISION based on the prevailing market condition.

Martin I am certain that going forward you will see a significant increase in the hot money flow into the region. You know the HERD MENTALITY …if one guy starts making money the rest will follow….

JOSHI; Correct Martin, least, the ruling government should play its part in providing a congenial environment for citizens of these states to live and exercise their rights in a peaceful and secure manor, with equal protection under law and order.

RIAZ KHAN;; Hi Martin,

I am not speaking on behalf of Delhi or anyone. I am just giving my view as a citizen and as a human being. Probably each of us is seeing the problem from a different angle and both of us may be right. Before I go further, let me assure you that I have no ill-feeling for anyone from NE or anywhere, I am just trying to analyse a social problem which is harming the people leading to angst and suffering.

You blame Delhi for formation of Militants and corruption and leakage of funds in the NE. Tell me what kind of mechanism can Delhi implement in Imphal or Aizwal, when right under its nose in Delhi thousands of crores are being washed away in the CWG drain.

Ultimately if any community has to progress it has to be the people from the community who have to work for its development. It requires a visionary leadership. Unfortunately what we have in India, is corrupt and inefficient self centred leaders. Once a while we do get people like Chandrababu Naidu who transformed Andhra Pradesh from a Biryani-CharMinar state into a Software Hub of the World.

A lot of people in the NE have a habit of forming a Liberation Army at the drop of a hat. This has got nothing to do with development of people. It is just a fantasy of Instant Justice and the Glamour of the gun in hand, and the lure of Big Bucks. The presence of 40 or whatever liberation armies in Manipur has got nothing to do with Delhi. It is just a choice which those people have made individually. Ultimately if Manipuri’s don’t look after Manipur who else will??

As for the other issue of Integration – well Individually I find the people of NE very amiable and simple and friendly. But when it comes to one tribe vs another, the mental and physical divisions are sharp, strong and violent. People of Nagaland have no sympathy when they blockade the entire state of Manipur. I have seen entire villages of some communities in ashes in lower Assam, burnt by xyz communities, and those people living in permanent fear in makeshift camps. Preservation of own culture doesn’t mean suppression of the neighbour’s culture. I have seen how people in Mizoram treat the people from Assam as second grade human beings. State borders and district borders in several NE states are as sharp and divisive as International Borders. There is no diffusion of cultures.

A Mizo or Manipuri or Naga can buy land in Delhi, but the Delhite can’t buy land in these states? Forget about the Delhite, even Manipuris themselves are not free to buy land anywhere in Manipur.

The bottomline is that whatever be the state of NE or anywhere in India. It is the people of that state or community who have to find solutions for their own development/ integration. Blaming ‘Delhi’ is the easiest excuse, which is just a ploy used by all state politicians to hoodwink local people.

RIAZ KHAN; Hi Martin

I understand your points and the issues.

let us look at things from a different angle. When we talk of development, it means roads, human connectivity, movement of people, mixing of ideas, cultures, openness etc. It is not possible to build individual forts and yet expect integration.
I think European Union is a good example to follow. They have open borders yet they retain their independent identities as French or Germans or Spanish etc.

The history has to be left behind if we want to move to the future. Historical mindsets will only result in historical frictions thereby compromising on development.

Next I will come to the issue of development. Each of the state has different kind of natural resources and those who don’t have mineral / river resources have human resources. Countries like Singapore have harnessed the human potential despite lack of any natural resource. The growth initiative has to come from within the states. The funds monitoring is not possible by Delhi. The only other alternative i can think of is getting some robots from Japan to manage the funds, since our own people are incapable of being honest.

Even tourism can be a great opportunity, but again due to never ending blockades and bandhs, this great money spinner has not taken off.

Ultimately it is the people in Agartala-Aizwal-Imphal-Kohima-Guwahati-Itanagar-Shillong who have to bring about a change and their own development. Delhi as the daddy or mummy has given the money, the boys have to now get responsible themselves and take charge of their own lives.
A. ANSARI; My knowledge on the NE is very limited. However do have a perception based on discussions with a friend who at one time was the sales head for the region and a colleague from Assam.
1. There is not much, if atall any, focus by the central government to develop the region. The issue as was rightly pointed out above – not significant enough vote bank. Unfortunately this is the main criteria for our politicians.
2. While IST may apply, the fact is nature follows its own rules. East does get sunlight much ahead of rest of India. As such, the time followed by watch may be IST, but the working hours are much earlier than the 9 to 6 routine followed in rest of India. This probably also has a factor of alienation – much like one non smoker in a dept where everyone else smokes.
3. The physical features of persons bear much similarity to Chinese or Nepali citizens (and I really don’t know if this is some section or all of NE). I have all too often seen NE persons in Mumbai being asked or called Chinese / Nepali. Unfortunately, we don’t have similar situation where persons general physical features have greater similarity with persons from another country. We insensitively call them Chinese / Nepali and drive in another nail into the alienation factor.
4. The distance is a barrier for person from west coast – I am equally guilty of this. If I plan a holday, it is cheaper & faster to fly to the Gulf. If I budget for time & cost for NE, then next thought is I may as well go to Far East. We are ok flying 10 hours to go to Europe, but holidays in NE require too much effort. Yes – the difference in infrastructure and conveniences available are a factor – but we have to find ways to develop the region and tourism is definitely a large contributor to development.

A new perception I build thru the email chain above
- mainland India vs NE. Why do we have to find new and innovative ways to alienate. For assimilation to happen NE has to be perceived as part of mainland India….

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