Mizo hmeichhe B.Th./M.Th. zo te hi

June 8th, 2010 11:18 pm by H.Vangchhia

Mizo hmeichhia te hi theology an zir kan khap miah lo mahse, pastor an nih erawh Mizoram ah chuan theih loh a ni si. Saudi Arabia ah pawh hian an hmeichhia te university ah lehkha zir an rem tih sak a mahse, an zir zawhin hna an hmu thei chuang lo. Mizo hmeichhia te leh Saudi Arabia hmeichhia te hi an dinhmun engemaw chen chu a in an hmel.

Chhiar chiang duh tan:

https://thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100608/FOREIGN/706079852/1002

152 Responses to “Mizo hmeichhe B.Th./M.Th. zo te hi”

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The Real Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Mizoram angah hian Pastor ni ta se mipa ang hian an tlin a ngem aw… thingtlang tak tak ah te han awm ta sela…bial a zau thei si, ke a kal a ngai chhen thin leh nghal.
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The_Chhamanator Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Zirtirtu atan te an tha a, a zir chhuak hi chuan thawhna chu an nei ve zel a ni lawm ni? Pastor hna kher lo pawh rawngbawlna dang, Pathian Thu zir mite tana thawh chi a tam viau hi mawle. Pastor ni tlak an ni lo ka tihna lam phei chu a ni miah lo a nia
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The Real Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Nia pastor nih hi chu tum hrih lo mai teh se
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hiho Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
zir ve mai mai teh se.. #2 khi ka sapawt e.
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Kawnga Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
A tul lo a nia nge…
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Buizoa Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Hmeichhia hian mipa thawh theih hi chu an thawk ve thei deuh vek asin…ram hruaitu nihna thlengin.

Mizote hian kan hmeichhiate kan la chawisang tawk lo nge, anmahni hian phak chiah loin an inhria?

Mahse Feminist ho hi chu ka mil chuang mang der lo.
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chhimkeite Says:
June 8th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Kei pawh tul ka ti lem lo. An peih chuan zir se a pawi hlei lova. Beram tam tham deuh ho khawm tur phei chuan ka hu phurh pui deuh ka ti.
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Nigel Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 12:02 am
hmeicche dah lal lutuk chu a tha lo ve
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The Real Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 12:05 am
@Buizoa, Pastor ni tur chuan thrum a ngai tel Mizoramah chuan, ram hruaitu tih vel nen chuan a in ang lo ang
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glalrozama Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 1:12 am
Chhandamna sipai pawl (Salvation Army ) -ah hi chuan hmeichhia pawh an officer tho. General hmeichhia an nei tawh bawk a, mipa leh hmeichhia an thliar lova tha viau in ka hria.
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gothica Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 1:23 am
muslim hmeichhia hi hetah chuan Ninja kan ti. An mipa te hi Al-Qaida hrin an nih kan rin mai bakah Taliban ho train chhuah an nih kan ring fiamthu….. Burqa an ha kher hi chu khawlum lai chuan hmuh an hahthlak. Iranian ka classmate thin ho kha an chhelo, mahse RIM an nei. An mawng a chhing tawi bawk..
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Hanc Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 1:32 am
An zir peih chuan a tha,mahse min bialtu Pastor atan chuan ka duh lo.Hmeichhe Pathian thu sawi thei tak te hi tul ka ti vak lo,inchhung khurah an rawngbawlna tur a tam tawk viau ni….
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mr.hyde Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 1:41 am
Hmechhia hi chu kan phak lo na tam tak a awm tih chu hmuh tur a awm reng. Amaherawh chu, Biblical zawnga en chuan Pathian ’selective’ deuh hian Mipa hi hma hruai tura tha deuh zawk tur hian duhsakna a nei zawk tlat in a lang. Chu chu pawm thiam a ngai-in ka hria.
Tun laia lar deuh, individual rights kan tihte hi ‘political correctness’ chu a lo fakin a promote hle in a lang, Democratic viau in individualistic bawk, mahse thil tha lo leh dik lo tam tak sawi mawi na mai ani tih chu a lang reng.
Hetah hian Feminist leh Gay movement teh pawh hi a khung tel vek. Pathianin adama support leh pui tur a siam kha Evei ani. Chu pawh Adama peng pakhat atanga lo siam. Rilru perceptive tho si, mahse a tha lo ngaituah chhuah theina lama chak lutuk, Rul pui in a dawr hmasak,Adama pawh thlemtu hmanrua ber lo ni ta kha evi tho ani.Chuvangin kei chuan an theihna ai mahin hmeichhe psyche famkim tawk lo, ngaituahna zau tawk lo deuh hlek hi an tlin lohna a ka ngai.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 2:31 am
Kristian hmasa te khan inngaih sual a an tluk hlauh chu chhuanlam a hmangin, inkhawmnaah hmeichhia te kha hmalam hawi tir ve lovin, sir lam hawi vekin an thut tir thin. Mipa te chu hmalam an hawi vanga sir lam an hawi ve ngailo, tisachakna suala thlemtu chu mipa kan ni zawk fo si a

Tun hnu hi chuan kan rilru hi a zau ve ta deuh a, theology te pawh an zir kan khap lemlo chu a nih hi. Mahse, an tlin tur leh tur loh pawh hre hawt lovin, an tlin lovang kan tih zel mai chuan thil fuhlo leh fair lo tak niin ka ngai. Ram dang sawi ngai lovin kan ram leh a chhevel ah pawh Pathian thu thiam tak tak te leh Pathian thu zirna lamah pawh zir sang tak tak an tam tawh mahse, kan chhawr duh der silo. Chhuanlam fahrah te te hi kan siam khum mai2 niin ka hre thin.

Mizo mipa te hian hmeichhia hi Arab ram ang em nilo mahse, kan rap bet hle tih tichiang tu pakhat a ni e (FACT).
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Jamp Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 2:48 am
Mizo mipate hian kan hmeichhiate kan rap bet a ni tih kan hriat miah loh lai hian nasa takin kan rap bet reng. Tin, hre reng chung pawhin kan rap bet tho bawk, a chhan pawh keimahni mipate hamthatna nia kan hriat avangin.

Pastor/Upa chanvote hi hmeichhiaten an tlin lohna bik a awm lo. Hna dang ang thoin an tlin leh tlin loh chu mimalah a innghat, gender ang zawnga restriction siam chi pawh a ni lo. Tlin lo tura ngaitu mipa chu ‘mimawl’ a ni. Tuna tlin rih lo anga an lanna pawh mipate sual vanga tive chhin tal tura ‘chance’ kan la pek phal rih loh vang a ni.

Mizo mipa thatchhe lutuk tapchhak zawla rorel tum ringawt ai chuan kan hmeichhe taima leh thil chhut chet chet peih mi te hian min hruai se, kan thatpui zawk daih ang.
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de_beauvoir Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 3:30 am
Comment #14& 15 hi a van dik kher em!!!

Kohhran hi Mizoramah chuan hmeichhe “rapbet” tu ber niin a lang. Kohhran Hmeichhia ten theih tawp in rawngbawlna an nei a, Kum khat chhung a kohhran a an sum chhun luh zat te hi a tam khop mai…an tha leh sum an duh,mahse Hmeichhe rawngbawlna sang zawk an pe thei tlat lo(a bik in Presbyterian kohhran ah). Tin, hmeichhe dinhmun sawi apiang a, “an pawng palh ang” tih hlauhna nei tak a Mizo mipa in an han chhang nasa ltk thin hian hmeichhia te lak a Mizo mipa rilru a tilang chiang khop mai. Sawrkar hna sang zawk thawk in Thingtlang ah te leh Vai ram hmun hrang2 a an thawh theih tho chuan Pastor hna an thawh theilohna bik tur a awm dawn mi le?an huam a,a zir ngam bok chuan…..

Kohhran Upa tur thlan dawn hian kohhran ten Pathian hnen ah kan dil thin..Mission Veng kohhran ah chuan vawi 1 Nula Saptawni a tling a, Mahse Kohhran in an pawm thei tlat lo…Pathian hnen ah a rawngbawltu ni tlak an dil ngei a rinawm, hmeichhia a tling a, Pathian chhan na chu Synod in a pawm lo tihna em ni ang??
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blackmagicwoman Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 3:44 am
The Real Says:
Mizoram angah hian Pastor ni ta se mipa ang hian an tlin a ngem aw… thingtlang tak tak ah te han awm ta sela…bial a zau thei si,ke a kal a ngai chhen thin leh nghal.

Ka cousin hmeichhia hi sawrkar hna thawkin thingtlang khaw kil deuhvah ah a awm thin a, field work an ti nasa a, bial fan a ngai reng. Truck te a phar chawp a, a rem remah a inhnawh a, a changin ke in a kal hrep bawk. A bial te chuan an fak lutuk. Mipa aia a hna a thawh thrat lohna a awm lova, bial a fang ngun zawk mah. Mizo hmeichhia te hi rorum deuh mai kan nia…mipa ang chuan kan awm a khauh lo maithei e, mahse bial a fang tha thei lovang tih vel hi chu excuse a tling pha lo.
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D_auachwgthu Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 4:02 am
Hmanlai Zopa zia lutuk hi chu paihthren a hun tawh khawpin ka hre ve mai mai,….ram thranmawhbawk…..!!!!! At mu hi lem lem lo teh ang u, kan a tlang tawh em mai. Kan hnufual truih truih reng hi maw…
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de_beauvoir Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 4:10 am
“Ka cousin hmeichhia hi sawrkar hna thawkin thingtlang khaw kil deuhvah ah a awm thin a, field work an ti nasa a, bial fan a ngai reng.”

Kha2 ni mai…Missionary hnathawk tur pohin hmun kilkhawr tak2 ah an thawn lawp2 thei tho..Mizorama pastor hna leh upa hna thawk tur a an kohhranin a pawm thei tlat lo hi chu hmeichhiate min rahbehna lian tak a ni…Karbi Anglong, Tuidu, Damparengpui, Marpara etc vel a thawh hi Mizoram a bial fan te ai chuan hahthlak fe zawk ang chu..Tin pastor zz hian bial fan tur an nei vek kher lo…
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awmawmpuia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Kohhranin tul kan la ti rih lo tlat a. Engtik hunah emaw chuan kan la nei tho tho ang. Tunah hi chuan ala hun rih lo ani ange. Kan hmeichhe theologian hmasa te hi Pastor atan kan it lemlo pawh ani thei.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:30 am
awmawmpuia, chu2 alawm rahbeh an tih chu
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Tetea Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:39 am
#11 Gothica: Haha! Ninja ho hi an mitmeng a nalh thei phian bawk a, an burqa hi pawh thlak sak a an hmel en hi a chakawm thei khawps mai.
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moiapa Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:47 am
muslim-ho hi keini chuan UPC nuho kan ti ve thung.haaa.Methodist kohhran pawh hian hmeichhia chu an ti Rev tawh asin.Ka pawm tho mai.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:59 am
It only happens in Mizoram a tih theih thuak maitheih a ni.
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chestra Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Hmeichhia an ni tlat alawm le, Genesis lamah khan Pathianin a thawh tur ang a tarlang a, ringtuten kan mi ngaihsan em em kan icon Tirhkoh Paula’n engtin nge a ngaih tih lam kan awn tha duh lo ni te pawhin a lang thin, eng kan ti nge keini chhung hi?
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:07 am
chestra, Hemi link hi i hman chuan uluk deuhin chhiar chhuak hram ta che.

https://www.tbm.org/can_women_be_pastors.htm

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:28)
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Duatpuia Pa Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Pczos, i dam thin maw?
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misuala Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:42 am
chiang taka sawi theih chu chhandamna thuah chuan kan intluktlang ngei maia.Amaherawh chu hmeichhe lu chu mipa a ni a mipa lu chu chu Krista a ni tih hi kan inzirtir dan chu a la ni si hi.ka hmuh dan mai mai chuan Mizoram bikah chuan Mipa te hi tha tak tak chu awm bawk mah se a nawlpui chuan chhungkua leh sakhuanna lama kaihruai tur meuh a tling tawk lo deuh deuh chu kan awm maw le
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emaroj™ Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:43 am
mipa pastor da ve tak ai chuan hmeichhe rinna chak tak in min ho se.. ka tui zok ang
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Pastor/kohhran hruaitu a hmeichhia mizo ten kan hman lohna chhan hi hmeichhe rahbehna nilovin, Bible zirtirna nia kan hriat anga kan kal vang zawk niin a lang. Sap ho in an hman mai vanga Bible thu kalh hi dik berah kan ngailo a ni mahna.

“Tupawh Kohhran hotua tan duh chuan hnathawh tha a duh a ni,”tih hi a dik a ni. Chutichuan, Kohhran hotu chu sawiselbo, nupui pakhat nei, insum thei… mi a ni tur a ni;” – I Tim 3:1-4 . Hetiang deuh chiah hian Tita hnenah Paula chuan a ziak bawk. ‘Nupui pakhat nei’ tih hian kohhran hotu chu MIPA a ni ngei tur tih a ti chiang viauin ka hria.

Gal 3:28 hi hmeichhe pastor ngaisang ho tran chhan ber a ni ve reng a, mahse helai changin ” chutah chuan mipa leh hmeichhia pawh a awm theih loh” a tih hian hmeichhia pawh mipa ang chiah anni a tihna emaw, mipa angin pastor hna an thawk thei a tihna emaw, mipa angin an zung tur tihna lam nilovin, Krista ah chuan mi zawng2 chhandamin an awm thei ta a tihna mai a ni. Juda te khan Pathian kha an in ti tatu bik em em a, Krista ah chuan pumkhat an nih thu a hrilh mai a ni. Rawngbawlna kawng leh kohhran inrelbawl dan chungchang chu pastoral letters (Tita, Timothea leh Philemona) ah te hian fiah takin a sawi leh mai.

“Hmeichhiain thu awih tlatin ngawi rengin zir rawh se. Amaherawhchu, hmeichhiain zirtir zawng ka phal lo, mipa chunga thu neih ka phal hek lo, ngawi rengin awm zawk rawh se. ” - I Tim 2:11-12

Hetah hian kohhran inrelbawl dan tur a sawi a, an zir chu a phal mahse mipa an zirtir erawh a phal lo. Heta mipa tih hian patling tih a kawk a, kohhrana pa ho tihna a ni, naupang a huam lo.
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mr.Duhlova Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:26 am
‘Kohhran lam thil’ ah hi chuan, ‘Pathian ta leh Pathian thil bik’ a nih tlat avangin – fimkhur a ngai hle. Kohhran kaihhruaina “Bible zirtirna” hi bih ngun a tha. “…Thisen a lei….Puithiamah te a siam tak…” (I Pe. 2:9; Rev.5:10) tih hian hmeichhiate pawh a huam ve rual rualin, rawngbawltu dinhmun leh mawhphurhna pawimawh tak chelh ve thei mahse, kohhranah leh chhungkua a ‘leadership’ lam erawh chu a kawk lemlo niin a lang.(I Co.11:3, Eph.5:22).
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rotekawlasepa Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Ngaihdan pakhat ka neih ve mai mai chu, hmeichhiate hi Pastor-ah awm ta se an chhangchhiat lai chuan a buaithlak viau lawng maw! An naupai lai phei chuan tihchi loh viau ang. Raipuar pung chungin meeting an han chair anga, Pulpit-ah thu sawi a lo ngai bawk anga, chubakah sacrament buatsaih alo ngai anga. Zopa tam zawk leh a hmeichhiatpui ngei pawhin an ngaih theih ka ring lo. Naute an han nei anga, alo berah naute buchiplai khan leave lak a lo ngai anga, a leave lak lai chuan a awmna Postor bial chuan pastor an han neilo phawt anga. A sawi tur a tamin ka hria, han ngaihtuah ve mah teh u!!! Tirhkoh Paula phei kha chuan a remti bau lo ang le.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:31 am
donald, mr. Duhlova, rotekawlasepa, khawngaihin, #26 link khi uluk takin han chhiar teh u.

Chhuanlam fahrah te te siam a hmeichhia te rahbeh hi kei ka ngaihdan a nilo reng reng. Chhan tam tak avang a hnamdang kan hmeichhia ten min neih san na chhan ah pawh hetiang hi a telh theih ngei ka ring. Mizo te hian Pathian thu hi mahni her rem kan tum lutuk te pawh hi aniang, kan tlem teh lul nen hian pawl kan tam em em mai ni.

Kan mu tawh ang e.
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sillyBoy Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Tuna kan sawi mekah hi chuan mizo zawng zawng a huap lovin ka hria. Salvation Army chuan an Officer turin hmeichhia pawh an hmang a; Baptist pawhin Upa hmeichhia an nei niin ka hre bawk. Presbyterian-ah erawh hmeichhe nemngheh rawngbawlna (ordained) kan la nei ve lo. Hei chi chhuanlam fahrah tak aimahin Synod kalphung a ni a, hmeichhia rah behna lam emaw niin a lang lo e. A tul a nih chuan Synod khawmpuiin an siam tha thei ang.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am
H.Vangchhia,

Mi thu ziah chhiar vak vak loh khan Bible hi chhiar chiang deuh la i var ve mai ang. I ngaihdan chu a zahawm viau, mahse Pathian thu ah hi chuan i ngaihdan a tel velo. Kohhran ten uluk taka Pathian thu an zir hnuah an hmuh dan in an kalpui a, nang, a zir ve hawt loh khan lo sawisel vak vak lo khan Bible hi zir chiang ve zawk la a that ka ring.

Bible in kohhran hruaitu tur a sawina ah hian hmeichhia a sawina pakhat pawh i hmu em? a khapna erawh i hmu teuh thung ang.
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rotekawlasepa Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Pu HV i link dah ka keu mek e, ka chhiar hmain tlem leh lawk rahbeh lam chu keipawh ka tih zawng a ni hauh lo. Mahse kan Mizo culture/tradition kan ti dawn ami ah hian inla pa pui pui, nupuite chawbel leh bai bel pawh vilsak duh tlatlo hnam kha kan ni tlat mai a, kan tihna lam pang daih a ni.

Vawikhatchu kan nau BD zir convocation-ah AICS, Tanhril ah khuan kan zu kal a, khata an hotunu kha hmeichhia a ni a, ka chhuang ru teh mai a sin.
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Jamp Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am
@rotekawlasepa=i ngaihdan a zim a nih chu. Kan hmeichhiate zingah hian pasal leh fanau neih aia kawppui nei loa hun puma Pathian rawngbawl thlang zawk an tam asin! Pasal fanau neia chhangchhe kher tura beiseina neih pawh hi inrahbehna chi khat tho. Kan hmeichhiate hian an nunna chungchang thuah duhthlan theihna rights an nei tih pawh hriat tur.
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Sony Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Saudi Arabia nen kan in anna leh chu a hminga zu khap. Presbyterian hmeichhia chu ni ila theology ka zir lo chiang ang. Inthlauhna boruakah ka cheng peih lo.
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sillyBoy Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Theology zir zawng zawng hian Pastor nih an tum vek kher lo, Lalnghakthuami te, Dr T. Vanlaltlani te pawhin ATC ah zirtir hna an thawk mai a, Pathian rawngbawlna vek a ni. Tumahin anniho hi an ngainep miah lo.
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khamrang Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Nula Pastor, ka va han rim chak rim thlu khrim khrim
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rotekawlasepa Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Pu HV I link rawn dah chu a va tha ve, ka book mark hmaks.

He thu han chhiar hi chuan a dik ka ti lehzual khawp mai. Mahse ka aproach kha chu Mizo society kalphung/ Mizo nun phung atanga ngaihdan chhuak a ni. Kan Mizo kalphungah hi chuan a rem teh teuh lo riauin ka la hre tlat. Mahse Pathian Thu lam hawi sawi reng reng thil pakhat ka rilru a awm fo thin chu ‘A Rorelah hian kan tel loh zia thu’hi zuk ni tlat zel a. Chuvangin kan Mizoram Kohhran ngeiah pawh hian hun a tihah chuan Hmeichhe Pastor hi kan la neih mai chu ka ring.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:02 am
@H.Vangchhia

I link chu ka chhiar a, i tan hmun pawh ka hriat thiam pui uar mai che .

Vanduaithlak takin i link a article ziak tu hian Bible a hrilhfiah diklo a tin a nih hi !! 1 Cor 14:34-36 kha zawhna nilovin Paula tawngkam ngei a ni zawk e. Khatianga Bible ‘twist’ thin ho kha alawm Isua’n ‘zirtirtu der’ a tih a, an laka fimkhur tura min chah.

Chang 37 na kha chhiar la, “Tupawh thu hriltuah emaw thlarau miah emaw a inngaih chuan in hnena thu ka ziak hi Lalpa thupek a ni tih lo hre rawh se.” tiin a ziak a, a hma chang a sawina kha a ni [i.e I Kor 14:34-35].. midang thusawi a quote a nilo.
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rotekawlasepa Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:04 am
@Jamp: Kan hmeichhiate hian an nunna chungchang thuah duhthlan theihna rights an nei tih pawh hriat tur. He thu dik hi ka sawisel hauh lo. Hmeichhia mai ni lovin mihring zawng zawngin mahni duhthlan theihna kan nei vek. Amaherawhchu Pastor nitur emaw Sorkara hna thawk tur emaw, Private Company a hnathawk tur etc, etc, chuan kei mah nin duh thlan theihna nei mah ila, min ruaitu turin minrawih duh/rawih tlaka min ngaih a ngai thung.
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coolsoul09 Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Isua khan (han ti ve khanglang ila), A zirtirte atan khan mipa thah mai 12 kha a thlang a….ngaihtuah zui ve ta mai mai ula..

Hmeichhiate hi kan rapbet lem lo, mizoramah hian. Inti feminist thenkhat an iak an iak hi chu a nep deuh ka ti. Hman lai dinhmun atangin an han tan a…lolz..

Tunlai mizo hmeichhiate dinhmun thlir hian engti kawngin nge hnuaichhiah an nih?

Tin, sakhuana thil lamah hi chuan, kan sawi kuak phak a nih hmel lem loh. Hmeichhiate tan Pastor nih a theih hrih lohva, a tlin thu-ah chuan an tlin lohna bik tur chu ka hre miah lo. Sa pawh an sat sawk sawk thei a, thingtlanga bial fanga ke-a kal kual tih mai mai te chu engah nge an han theih loh vang ni?
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mr.Duhlova Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:40 am
33 Pu HV duhtak : I link chu ka chhiar tawh a lawm, a ngaihnawm ka ti, mi thu ziak reng reng leh hrilhfiahna reng reng thalo tih bur ka nei vaklo, tangkaipui theihna lai an nei vek in ka hria.

Mahse Bible leh – hrilhfiana bu hi chu a in anglo. Rohmingliana pawhin thiam takin a hrilhfiah tak na-in, a ma ngaihdan leh pawmdan thiam takin a hrilhfiah a ni mai. Thenkhat chuan zirtirna diklo leh hlauhawm an ti leh mai.

Tirhkoh Petera’n “…thlarau lam hnute, engmah pawlh loh”(I pe.2:2)a tih hi Bible bik ..mihring ngaihdanin a pawlh buailoh, Pathian thawk khum ‘hlang’ a ni. Hei hi tehfungah ka hmang rum-rut mai a ni.

Hmeichhe Pastorna kohhranah pawh ka inkhawm ve fo tawh, an tlinlohna pawh ka hre chuanglo. Singaporean thenkhat in an tih vang te, English thenkhatin an tih vang te, American thenkhatin an tih vang te, Korean thenkhatin an tih vang te, Synodin an tihloh vang te ni lovin, Kohhran leh chhung kua (kaw) ‘Leadership’ hi chu Mipa chan atan Pathian ruat niin ‘Bible-ah’ ka hmu ve tlat.

Tichuan, kan nu pawh hi ‘ordained’ (thenkhatte ang a Rev. ti a koh theih ‘title’ pek) a ni ve ngat, rawngbawlna lam thil, zirtirna pek, nuho pawl kaihhruai (Chairperson)leh, ministry dang dangah pawh chanvo a nei ve nual, mahse vawiin thlengin, Kohhran enkawltu hna, ‘Beram Pi’(Pastor)mawhphurna a la la ngailo…. Good example?
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Viking Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Pathinin hmeichhia leh mipaah min siama, hmeichhia chu, mipa ‘ helper ‘ turin ani. Hei vang hian hmeichhia hi mipa aiin an hnuai tihna ni lo. Role min pek a hrang maia ni.

Mizo hmeichhe Theology zir zawng zawng hian Pastor nih an duh vek kher lo. Kan kohhran Pres-ah chuan, hna hrang hrang tha tak tak an thawk. A dik tak chuan BTH, BBD , MTh zo tawh hna hmu thei lo i hre tawh ngai em ni ?

Ka lawm e

–LVK
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funny Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:55 am
feminist ah hian chi hrang hrang an awmve a, heng ho hre fumfe tak tak silova sawichhuah ve ringawt tehi a rukin minlo nuihzat duh riau ania, hre manglo a sawi ve ingawt tih min hriat hi chuan hnial enah pawh min enlo in minlo nuih liam ve mai mai thrin

redical, moderate, extremist tihte.. first wave, second wave third wave.. a thren phei chu Queer theory ah te an lut leh daih tawh zawk ani. Hetiang ho ngat hi chu mipa inti ve khai uai satliah ho khan debate velah pawh in hnehlo chiang kuang ngawtin ka ring.
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badboy Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Funny, nangmah kha feminist dik tak i ni lawmni
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ROSA Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Dik tho na chungin a dik famkimlo deuh, an mahnin an zir phot chuan Synod pawhin a duh lutuk a sin, kan thiannu poh Bangalore a a hnathawk lai, ATC Lecturer turin a dil poh nilo in a sawmin an zu sawm chhuak ngat a sin, Dt.07.06.10 Thawhtanni atang khan a zawm nghe nghe
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LakherAnthur Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Ka thianpa pakhatin tiang hian fiamthu ang reng deuhvin min hrilh a, dik tak ang maw! “Kan Mizoram ah chuan, school leh college ah ti thra ber te, first class wallahs ho, technical line ah an lut a, doctor, engineer, etc hnah te an thawk a; second class wallahs ho general line ah kalin civil service ah an lut leh a, sikul leh college ah an phak lote, first class ho chung ah lalin an thru a; third class wallahs ho leh drop-outs (failed) ho politics ah zuanglut-in, an sikul leh college kal lai a an tluk miah loh, an chung en, first class leh second class wallahs – doctor, engineer, etc; secretary, director, etc te chung ah lalin an thru ve leh a…”, sawi duh tan sawi tur a awm treuh ang. Heng kan politiciante hi za a za deuh thawh mipa an ni a, hmeichhia tam tak te chu fel em em mah se Mizoram politics ah chuah hmun an la neih rih lo ang tluk a ni.

Chutiang bawkin kan Kohhran politics-in, kan Mizo hmeichhia-te, fel leh thra em em te, hruaitu a nih tir duh rih lo. an Bible college/seminary ah pawh hmeichhia tluk loh an tam khawp a, chutiang miten min hruai ai chuan, first class hmeichhia, Bible college leh seminary Tuna kan Mizo mipa pastor thenkhat te hi Bible college leh seminary ah an zir lai-in an Mizo hmeichhia zirpui te tluk loh an nih hlawm a, mahse mipa anni tlat avangin (englo “….” an neih tlat avangin)pastor an nih theih a, hmeichhia erawh chu fel leh thiam, thlaraumi nih mah se, englo “….” an nei tlat loh avangin pastor anni thei ta lo. Kan hmeichhia fel tak tak te hian Kohhran ah pawh min hruai se, mipa tamtak ai chuan an ti thra zawk daih anga Kohhran pawh a hmasawn phah phian ang.

Tin, primitive hunter-gatherer hun ah kan awm tawh lova, 21st century computer age ah awm kan nih tawh ta, chuvang chuan mipa tih thei, hmeichhia tih theih lo, thil a awm tawh lo. Kawng tam tak ah chuah hmeichhia ho hi mipa ai-in an ti thra zawk a, an thei zawk a, an taimah zawk mah mah in ka hria.

Hmeichhia-te pastor rawngbawl hna thawk tur hian Bible-in a khap lova, Mizoram ah kan la nih tir duh lona chhan bera lang chu kan patriarchal culture leh patriarchal church tradition vang nih berin a lang.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Mizorama hmeichhia-te pastor atan lakluh an nih lohna chhan bera chu kan patriarchal culture leh patriarchal church tradition vang nilo in, Bible in a khap vang a ni. 21st century computer age hian Pathian thu a ti danglam chuanglo.

“Kohhranho inkhawmnaah chuan hmeichheho chu ngawi rengin awm rawh se; anni zawng an thusawi phal a ni si lo”

“Tin, engpawh zir an duh chuan in lamah mahni pasal zawt rawh se; kohhranho inkhawmnaa hmeichhe thusawi hi a zahthlak si a”

“Hmeichhiain thu awih tlatin ngawi rengin zir rawh se. Amaherawhchu, hmeichhiain zirtir zawng ka phal lo, mipa chunga thu neih ka phal hek lo, ngawi rengin awm zawk rawh se”

“kohhran ah pawh min hruai se, mipa tamtak ai chuan an ti thra zawk daih anga Kohhran pawh a hmasawn phah phian ang”

tih ang ngaihdan hian kohhran a kal tur a ni lo. Kohhran chu Krista taksa a nih angin krista thu angin a kal mai tur a ni. Pathian thu in mipate hi hmeichhia aia an thiam bik vangin kohhran hruaitu atan a ruat lo a, a chhan chu chiang takin a sawi..

“Amaherawhchu, hmeichhiain zirtir zawng ka phal lo, mipa chunga thu neih ka phal hek lo, ngawi rengin awm zawk rawh se. Adama chu siam hmasak a ni a, chu mi hnuah Evi chu siam a ni a. Tin, Adama chu bumin a awm lo va, hmeichhia erawh chu bumin a awm a, bawhchhiatnaah a tlu ta a” a ti mai a ni. Hmeichhiain zirtir emaw mipa chunga thu neih a phal loh chhan chu mipa chu siam hmasak zawk a ni a, bumin a awm velo a, hmeichhia erawh chu buma awmin, sualah a tlu tiin Bible chuan min hrilh a ni. Helai tu hi feminist ho chuan mipa leh hmeichhia sawina a nilo, nupa chungchang zawk a ni tiin an tang thin. Mahse a context hi chhiar in mipa/lhmeichhia leh kohhran inrel bawl dan chungchang sawina tih a chiang a, nupa sawinan chuan ‘nupui’ ‘pasal’ tih a hmang. Nupa sawina ah pawh chuan lo ngaihsak ta ila, mahni pasalte mah zirtir leh a chunga thuneih phal sak a nih si loh chuan midang pasal va zirtirin a chungah thu a va neih daih hi phalsak a nih thu a awm lo.

“Tupawh Kohhran hotu-a tan duh chuan hnathawh tha a duh a ni,”tih hi a dik a ni. Chutichuan, Kohhran hotu chu sawiselbo, NUPUI PAKHAT NEI, insum thei… mi a ni tur a ni;” tih te hi engtin nge kan chhiar le? Nupui pakhat nei hi mipa tihna a nih loh chuan PATIL pawh nise nupui a neih chuan kohhran hruaitu atan a tling tihna emni dawn?
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sunshinethrutheday Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
@Nigel…..huhuhu……Mipa pawh hmeichhia pawh awmze nei lova dah lal chu a tha lo, hmeichhia chauh a ni bik hleinem.

A thu hrim hrimah…. Baptist Kohhran chuan Hmeichhe Theologian-te hi an ordained tawh, Minister chu an awm ngei alawm, bial an vawn leh vawn loh chu ka hre lo. Presbyterian-ah hi chuan an la ordain lo…. an that leh thatloh pawh hriat hma a, lo huphurh pui vak ringawtte chu a….te ka tia…huhuhu
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chestra Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
coolsoul, viking, donald, sillyBoys—court-a din ngai se ka aia ding turin emaw, ka lawyer atan emaw ka duh che u.
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pibuhdeng Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
@Donald a sawi hi a dik ka ti ta riau, mahni ngaihdan leh rindan emaw mi sawi dan emaw ringawt a in nghat lo in kan Bible in engtin nge a sawi tih ah hian kan in nghat zawk tur a ni reng ani. Kristiante tan chuan kan Bible hi kan in nghahna tur a ni si a.
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gothica Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
ava gothic ve
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lalpeace Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
“Kohhranho inkhawmnaah chuan hmeichheho chu ngawi rengin awm rawh se; anni zawng an thusawi phal a ni si lo”

“Tin, engpawh zir an duh chuan in lamah mahni pasal zawt rawh se; kohhranho inkhawmnaa hmeichhe thusawi hi a zahthlak si a”

“Hmeichhiain thu awih tlatin ngawi rengin zir rawh se. Amaherawhchu, hmeichhiain zirtir zawng ka phal lo, mipa chunga thu neih ka phal hek lo, ngawi rengin awm zawk rawh se”

A chung atang khian a chiang veng vawng viau in a lang. Bible thu te pawh hi zawm duh lai leh duh lem loh lai kan nei thin a nih hmel khawp mai.

Hmeichhia B.th/ M.th zo te hian hna hmuh lamah harsatna vak an neih ka ring lo.
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waterboy Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
ava goth ve
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D_auachwgthu Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
In thu a nawi em mai….inhnial muah muah teh u…. In hnial hrep hnuah hian thil tha deuh a chhuak thin ania.
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pari Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Pibuhdeng#54: “Kristiante tan chuan kan Bible hi kan in nghahna tur ani si a”…dik khawp mai.Bible kan pawm dan leh kan hriatthiam dan hi a inang lo em ani!kan dinhmun leh ngaihdan sawhngheh nan a Bible manipulate vel hi chu kan thiam tlang ve ngawt mai.

Bible misinterpretation avangin mihring te tihduhdahna tam tak, Crusades, Inquisition leh Slavery etc te pawh kha defend an lo ni tawh. Hmeichhe oppression chungchangah pawh Isua thusawi aiin Paula’n a hun lai mil leh specific society tan a sawi kha tun thlengin ultimate truth a pawm duh tan chuan, tanhmun ah an hmang chut reng ang.An dam chhungin Bible verse thenkhat (mis)quote in injustify an tum zel ang. Hmeichhe chungchang mai ah ani lo, zu te, homosexuality ah te pawh ani tho.

donald lo thehchhuah Bible verse te pawh khi a huam vek. Zir chiang lova chhiar liam puat te chuan chauvinistic male tan chuan apply a nuam khawp ang chu. Hmeichiate rawngbawlna chungchangah pawh, “Bible in a khap” tih tur awm lo mahse patriarchal society ah chuan eng ang a hna thiam leh zo pawh nise an hmasawnna in limit a nei zel.

“…Chutichuan, Kohhran hotu chu sawiselbo, NUPUI PAKHAT NEI, insum thei… mi a ni tur a ni”… (1tim.3:1). Hei pawh hi kohhran hotu ni tur chuan mipa chu nungchang leh chezia a sawisel kai lo,mipat hmeichiatna lama mi in discipline, hmeichhia pakhat aia tam kawppui neilo mi ni tur ani tih lam a kawk. “Nupui pakhat nei” tih lai a buluk zawng a kan lak dawn chuan tlangval fel, nupui la nei lo hruaitu a thlangtu te hi Kohhranin min phuar mai dawn em ni? Remarriage License nei ho te pawh hi nupui sun tawh an nih a rawngbawltu la ni duh tan chuan nupui an nei leh thei tawh lovang.

Chutiang bawkin Hmeichhia chu ngawi reng a awma thusawi hna thawk ve lova mipa thu thu a awm tura ngaih tlatna (1Kor.11: 3-16; 14:34-35), pawh hi Bible hmanga hmeichhe oppress na hmanraw common zing ami .Purpose neiin, intended audience nei a ziak anih avangin, author ngai pawhin Ephesi leh Korinth khua ami te hnena a thuchah a hrang. An social relations ah eng ang taka mipa, mahni pa te nupui pawh neihsak duh khawpa lepchiah nge an nih?Hmeichhe nasa leh buaipuiawm tak tak te kha engtia “silence” tur nge niin Paula khan a hriat? Tunah enge kan dinhmun ve?

Text kan chhiar hian a historical context zir chian a pawimawh. Raw taka zawm vek tur ni ta se Bible ah hian thil practical lo a tam em em. Mihring potential tap thei tura inlungrual taka hma lak mai awm tak tawh! Hmeichhia versus mipa tih ang zawnga Bible hmanga in dominate tlat, chu pawh a temporal leh spatial configuration ngaihtuah miah lovin! Save civilization, not ‘man’kind.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
@pari

Ka rawn sawi ho khi khawi lai ah nge ka misinterprete?

‘Nupui pakhat nei’ tih lai a buluk zawngin kan la a nilova, mipa sawina a ni e kan ti mai a ni. Bible exegesis hi duh lai lai a reh bun mai tur a ni ngai love. I rawn sawi ang hian helai chang hian ‘kohhran hotu ni tur chuan mipa chu nungchang leh chezia a sawisel kai lo,mipat hmeichiatna lama mi in discipline, hmeichhia pakhat aia tam kawppui neilo mi ni tur ani tih lam a kawk ngei mai. Mahse MIPA a ni tur tih hi engtizia a hnawl tlat nge i nih han sawifiah thei la a lawm awm ngawt ang. Tlangval tan a theihloh tih sawi kan tum lova, a ‘mipa’ lai kha sawifiah nan kan han tarlang mai a ni e. Mi thusawi a buluk zawnga lo lai kawih leh Pathian thu lak khawih hi thil pawi tak a ni.

1Kor.11: 3-16; 14:34-35 thu te hi mihringin hmeichhe oppress na hmanrua atana an duan nilovin Pathian thu chhuak a ni zawk. I pawm lo a nih chuan sawi tlang mai la, sawi nawi kual a ngai hran hleinem. ‘hei em em hi chu kan Pathian hi a over, pawm chi ah ka ngailo tih mai tur a lawm ’

“Purpose neiin, intended audience nei a ziak anih avangin” i tih pawh hi i ti dik fu mai. Amaherawhchu i sawi awmzia hi nangmah hian i chiang lo niin a lang. A purpose leh intended audience te hi Korinth khaw mi te chauh niin i ngai a nih hmel. Mahse a ni lo tlat. Mizo Bible hian chang 34 ah ‘Kohhranho inkhawmnaah chuan hmeichheho chu ngawi rengin awm rawh se’ tiin a render a, mahse tawng bul lamin a sawi dan chuan ‘kohhran tina Pathian mithianghlimte tihdan angin’ tihna a ni [ As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches ]. Khatih hunlaia Korinth mite hmantur chauh nilovin, enghun ah pawh, khawi hmunah pawh, kohhran zawng2 zawm tur a ni zawk. Paula hian a hun lai mil leh specific society tan a sawi a nilo tihna a nih chu. Tin, khalai Bible chang kha i zirchian deuh chuan kohhrana hmeichhe thusawi a phal loh na chhan kha chiang takin a sawi. An soceity buai neih nuaih vang nilo in, hmeichhe thusawi zawt2 kha a zahthlak vang tiin a sawi fak a ni. “for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” a ti. Theology i zir ve a nih chuan khata ‘for’ tia render kha Gk word ‘gar’ tih a ni a, ‘a chhan chu’ tihna a ni tih pawh i hre ngei ang.

Pari said:
donald lo thehchhuah Bible verse te pawh khi a huam vek. Zir chiang lova chhiar liam puat te chuan chauvinistic male tan chuan apply a nuam khawp ang chu.

Thu i duh mah mah deuh. ‘Zir chiang lova chhiar liam puat’ ka nih i hria emaw ni le? Theology hi engchen nge ka zir pawh i hre awm der silova ! Hetianga thu in duh bawrh2 ltk thin avangte pawh hi a ni mahna Bible hian a khap che u ! Thil hi inhriain inhmu thei leh ltk a, Eden huana thei te pawh kha engtin nge maw inlo va hmuh reng2 le? Paula’n ‘bumin a awma, sualah a tlu’ a tih te pawh hi a ngeiawm in ti em.. lolzz. Khang mai2 avanga hmeichhiain zirtir a phal lo te, mipa chunga thu neih a phal a lo te hi a ngeiawm ngawt mai tiraw. Mahse Isua thupeka sawi a ni miau si a le.
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LakherAnthur Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
@ donald (#51) and all at his school of thought,

“Kohhranho inkhawmnaah chuan hmeichheho chu ngawi rengin awm rawh se; anni zawng an thusawi phal a ni si lo”

He chang hi literal/universal a apply i duh hmel a, chutiang ani si chuan, evangin ngei inkhawmna a hmeichheho hi tantu te, tawngtaitute, hlachhiartute, sharing neitute tan kan hman thrin le? Zai pawh an zai phal lo tur a ni ta, zai chu thusaw ang a ni ve bawk si a.

“Tin, engpawh zir an duh chuan in lamah mahni pasal zawt rawh se; kohhranho inkhawmnaa hmeichhe thusawi hi a zahthlak si a”

He chang pawh hi literal/universal a apply i duh hmel a, chutiang ani si chuan, engvangin nge hmeichhe ho hi Sande sikul ah te, pathian thu leh hla a inkawmkhawmna ah te, Bile thu zawt kan phal thrin le, khap tlat tur ani dawn lawm mi. An pasal ten an hrilhfiah thei lo chuan, an hriatloh te chu hriat lovin awm kumkhua mai se.

“Hmeichhiain thu awih tlatin ngawi rengin zir rawh se. Amaherawhchu, hmeichhiain zirtir zawng ka phal lo, mipa chunga thu neih ka phal hek lo, ngawi rengin awm zawk rawh se”

He pawh hi, hmeichhe hovin mipa chunga kawng tamtaka thu an neih tawh si la, hmeichhia department hotute leh zirtirtute hi kan ban vek a ngai hmel.

“Chutichuan, Kohhran hotu chu sawiselbo, NUPUI PAKHAT NEI, insum thei… mi a ni tur a ni;”

He pawh hi literal/universal a apply i tum hmel a, chutiang ani chuan, nupui neih lo (single men) te chu BD/MTh/DTh zo tawh mah se, mi fel leh mi thra, pastor rawngbawlna ah tui emem an ni pawhin, pastor atan ordain thei anni lovang, nupui pakhat tak ngial pawh an nei lo avangin. Nupui neih tumte pawhin nupui an nei hma zawng chu pastor anni thei lovang. Roman Catholic father, bishop, arch bishop, pope te pawh hi nupui pakhat annei si lo avangin an tla fai vek.

Pathian Thu chu hrilfiah a ngai a, hrilhfiah lova, a in ziak ang thlap a literally a i apply chuan i buai vek dawn a ni. I apply hlei thei lo tam tak a awm ang a, Pathian thu awih loh i nih tawh dawn a ni. Tual that suh, ruk ru suh, etc te chu a chiang a, hmeichhia ordain/past nih chungchang erawh chu culture leh context te nen i chhia kawp lo chuan, a fuh dawn lo.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
LakherAnthur

You said:
“evangin ngei inkhawmna a hmeichheho hi tantu te, tawngtaitute, hlachhiartute, sharing neitute tan kan hman thrin le? Zai pawh an zai phal lo tur a ni ta, zai chu thusaw ang a ni ve bawk si a. ”

In kohhran hruaitute zawt mai zawk la a tha ang a. Ka ruat anni tlat lo mai . Tin, zai phal loh ti hi Bible ah a awm lo. Zai leh thusawi a in ang tih chu tunge zirtir che aw? Mahni ngaihdan dan a Bible lo siksawi vel hi kan sam ngawt mai!

You said:
He pawh hi, hmeichhe hovin mipa chunga kawng tamtaka thu an neih tawh si la, hmeichhia department hotute leh zirtirtute hi kan ban vek a ngai hmel.

Ngailo hram rawh se . Kohhran leh inchhungkhur chungchang sawina a ni a, secular administration lam nilo in.

He pawh hi literal/universal a apply i tum hmel a, chutiang ani chuan, nupui neih lo (single men) te chu BD/MTh/DTh zo tawh mah se, mi fel leh mi thra, pastor rawngbawlna ah tui emem an ni pawhin, pastor atan ordain thei anni lovang, nupui pakhat tak ngial pawh an nei lo avangin. Nupui neih tumte pawhin nupui an nei hma zawng chu pastor anni thei lovang. Roman Catholic father, bishop, arch bishop, pope te pawh hi nupui pakhat annei si lo avangin an tla fai vek

LOlz.. Hei hi chu Pari ka chhanna khi a ni mai. Tlangval a tlinglo tih lam nilo khian mipa sawina (nupui nei a nih chuan) ah ngaih mai tur alawm. I ril ltk em mai . Patling CK deuh chu an tlinglo tihna a ni mai

A tawp berah chuan Hmeichhe ordain chungchang hi Bible verse pakhat pawh a positive zawngin i hmu em ? Khing Bible verse te khi i pawm lo a nih chuan i thu a ni a, sawi tur ka nei lo.
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nell_maiden Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
donald chu sawi thra pap pap hle mai. Pari chu historical context nen maw Bible pawm dan tur i sawi a? Lei leh Van a ral anga ka thu erawh a ral lovang tih kha hrilhfiah ka va duh ta ve..
Mahni hun lai[contemporary] milpuiin emni Bible hi pawm tur?
Ka ring lemlo. Isua Krista leh a thu hi nim inah nen vawinah nen naktukah nen a pangngai reng si a. God exist outside the time dimension. There is nothing like second, hours, millenium, era etc.

LakherAnthur, hmeichhia hian mipa tih theih an ti thei vek a? An thei veklo anih ka ring. US President ah pawh an la tlin theihloh khu. Ram dangah pawh an tling ve a nih pawn, a zauh2 ani a khat lutuk. Tin, biologically a mipa hi hmeichhia te aia kan chungnunna te hi i hrelo emawni le? Kan taksa te reng reng hi hmeichhia te aiin awmkhauh zawk leh chak zawk a nih te hi?

Khawvel scientist leh mathematician lar ah te hian hmeichhe hming hi uihum zat pawh i hmu lovang. Career dang chu midangin rawn tuihnih rawh se.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Mahni rilru mil tur lai Bible ah hian phawrh tur a awm zel ang. Chutiang hmang chuan Mizoram chuan kan hmeichhie te hi kan la rapbet a ni e.

Paula thusawi hi nia, Mizoram pawm ber niin ka hria mahse, Paula meuh pawh khan Gal’ ah khan intluk tlang vek kan nih a sawi leh tho asin. Khawngaihin, he link hi han chhiar thla teh u khai, in thil chak/nuam tih zawng chhiar anga bih chiangin.
https://www.tbm.org/can_women_be_pastors.htm

nell_maiden, ram dangah hian an tling zeuh2 lo tlatin ka hria. Kei teh ngial pawh hian hriat ka nei nual mai pakhat, Presbyterian pastor, Laura Peddintonbear phei chu ka thian hnai tak a ni nghe nghe asin.
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nell_maiden Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
HV pastor lam ka sawina anilo…rampum huap sorkar a lalber nihna ani ka sawi. President, prime minister etc..
lakheranthura ka hnialna a ni e..hmeichhia hian mipa theih zawng2 an thei kherlo ka tihna ani.

Rahbeh theiha an awm hrim2 poh hi an hnuaihnun vang zawk a ni mailo mo?
kan rapbet e ka tihna chu anilo
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Pu H.Vangchhia,

I link rawn paste leh Bible lo compare teh khai. Brown-a sawi ang hian 1Cor 14:34-36 hi Paula sawi niloin midang sawi a quote ni sela chu pawmdan pawh a danglam deuh mai thei e. Mahse, verse 32 atang khan chhiar la, amah Paula thuchhuak ngei a ni zawk. Chang 37 ah ‘Tupawh thu hriltuah emaw thlarau miah emaw a inngaih chuan in hnena thu ka ziak hi Lalpa thupek a ni tih lo hre rawh se.’ ala ti zui.

Feminist theologian ho pawn hepa Bible interpret dan hi chu an pawm kher ang emaw.. Hetianga Bible interpret ka vawikhat hriatna. Theologian dang hepa’n helai verse a interpret dan pawm ve i hriat phei chuan min lo hrilh ve nghe nghe teh.. a dangdai em mai [an pawla mi nilo]
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Thudik pawm lova, mahni rilru mil tura interpret zel chuan, chumi ti tu te tan chuan khawvel ah an ngaih dan bak dik a awm thei lovang.

Kan hmeichhia te hi Saudi Arabia angin kan rapbet a ni ber, ka tehkhin thiam dan berin.
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kawlhawk Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Comments a tam tawk tawh a, uluk taka ka chhiar hi ka duhtawk mai ang e.
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funny Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
ka sawi ve chak hlemai
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Killer shark Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
In comment then khat atang hi chuan,ngaih dan a in ang lo hlawm hmel e>
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mkima Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
1korinth 14: 34 thu hi kan sawi dawn anih chuan, 11:1_15 thu pawh hi sawi tel i la maw le.

chang 5 na, amaherawhchu hmeichhia lukhum khum lova trawgtai emaw, THU hril emaw apiangin an lu an timualpho a ni. ziah kawn nen thuhmun reng a ni sia.
An lu kha khum sela thu ansawi ve a thiang tih na ani a,
Tin christa ah hmeichhia leh mi pa an awm tawh lo va, caltia 3:27- thu kha Abraham thlah an ni a tih kha.

Bible hi pawm kim a tha. heng te hi paul trawngkam vek a ni e.
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emaroj™ Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
U mkim…
Iva vang em em vele.. I dam maw?

khonge i boss chawngilh, ani poh hi a reh guih2 khopsss mai.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
mkima, Paula tho khan Galatia mi te hnenah khan Mipa leh hmeichhia kan thuhmun reng a ni tih thu a sawi bawk (Gal 3:28), duhlai chauh lak chhuah tur a nilo.

Chhuanlam a awm hi chuan thil felhlel a awm a ni. Mizo te hi Muslim kan ni lo hlauh hi a tha ngawt mai, Islam sakhua lo lut hmasa se chuan kan hmeichhia te hi Taliban aiin kan tih retheih ka ring.
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mkima Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Emaroj@ nia kan vang ani e, tuantul vangin. chawnghilh chu ka lan chuan a lo lang ve leh mai ang.
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mkima Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
pu HV i dam mo? nia ka rawn ziah tel tho saw maw. johana phei amah Isua kan ang vek dawn a ti a lom.
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funny Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
donald hei U mkima’n i bible chang lak chhuah a rawn hnial thla leh tlatmai.

u mkim chibai, i rawn lang khat hlemai..
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mkima Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Funny@ chibai le, i ngaih awm. ka lo lang ve zeuh2 nan, han zaih ka tum changpawn ka hman si lova, ka chhunzawm thei dawn chuang lova ka ti a ka ziak lo mai.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Tawngtai/thuhril/thusawi te hi Bible tawngkamah thuhmun an nilo tih chu mipangngai chin chuan kan hre vek in a rinawm.

Bible hian kohhran inkhawm na a hmeichhe tawngtai leh thuhril a khap tuman kan tilo a, thusawi a khap kan ti zawk a ni. IKor 14:34 ah ‘Kohhranho inkhawmnaah chuan hmeichheho chu ngawi rengin awm rawh se; anni zawng an thusawi phal a ni si lo’ a ti a. Heta ‘thusawi’ tih hi ‘laleo/lalein’(Gk)a ni a, preach, say, speak tihna a ni.

IKor 11:5 ah ‘Amaherawhchu, hmeichhia lukhum khum lova tawngtai emaw, thu hril emaw apiangin an lu an timualpho a ni’ tih kan hmu leh a, heta ‘thu hril’ tih hi chu thusawi nen a in ang lo. ‘Propheteuo/Propheteuousa’ a ni thung. To foretell events, divine, speak under inspiration tihna a ni. A awmzia chu miin thu a hril(prophecy) chuan zawlnei ah a inchhal tihna a ni. Hei hi Bible in a khap lo (Pathian ruat zawlnei a nih chuan).

Rawngbawlna office chi hrang2 Ephesi 4:11 ah kan hmu a; ‘Krista taksa siam tha turin thenkhatte chu tirhkoh atan te, thenkhatte chu zawlnei atan te, thenkhatte chu Chanchin Tha hriltu atan te, thenkhatte chu kohhran chawmtu(Eng version thenkhat chuan pastor tiin an dah) leh zirtirtu atan te a pe a’ tiin. Pathian ruat zawlnei te chu a huamlo tih heta tang hian kan hre thei a ni. Thuthlung hlui hun atang tawh khan thuthlung thar thleng khan hmeichhe zawlnei chu an awm a, thu pawh an hril (prophecy) tih kan hre theuh. Thuthlung tharah pawh Philipa fanu te khan thu an hril (prophecy) tih kan hmu (TT 21:9). Thu an sawi (preach/laleo) erawh kan hrelo . Hmeichhe thusawi a khap tih vang hian zawnei te thupuan/thuhril(prophecy/Propheteuo) hi khap vek a ni tihna a ni kher lo a nih chu. Zawlnei office leh kohhran chawmtu (pastor) office hi ngaihfin loh tur a ni angin Bible tawngkama thu hril leh thu sawi tih hi ngaihfin loh chi a ni.
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pari Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
donald: ilo chhiar ani maw ka van lawm ve , mahse min reply danah hian i pawi ka sawi anih chuan, my sincere apologies.

1) i first question: “Ka rawn sawi ho khi khawi lai ah nge ka misinterpret?”: in agree na kan nei nual mai. Mahse ka point i miss in ka hre deuh hlek. Ka’n sawi leh ang. Sakhuana in mihringte min hegemonize nasatzia, hmanlai atanga tun thlengin mi tlemte in kan mamawh ni a an hriat chungchangah ‘chhia leh tha’ min decide sak. Kan pi leh pute ngei pawh chutiang hnuaiah chuan rei tak an khawsa tawh. Mahse education in consciousness min pek hnuah chuan, thil engkim hian multiple meanings alo nei, a hmangtu te leh a hunlai a zirin .Chutah chuan i hming ka sawi chauh ani… I biblical verse quotations ho kha, subjects to interpretation an ni ka tih na mai ani e.nangmah mimal ka attack na che ani lo. I misinterpret pawh ka ti lo.Pliz in lo la personal lo hram rawh.

2) “…Mi thusawi a buluk zawnga lo lak kawih leh Pathian thu lak kawih hi thil pawi tak ani”…i tih hi ka agree che 100%. Nupui pakhat neih tih vel kha chu hypothetical situation atan a ka sawi ani, chhiar leh rawh i hman chuan. MIPA anih vang a hnawl chungchangah, mipa anih vanga hnawl emaw, hmeichhia anih avanga hnawl emaw kan nih chuan khawnge rationality a awm chutah chuan?hei pawh hi tlemin i presumptuous em le ka ti deuh?

3) 1Kor.11: 3-16; 14:34-35 et al., ah kha chuan, mihringte hi alom over le, celibate male in hmeichhia a hmuh dan leh an role a idealize dan hi Bible bih chiang zawk chuan i hre fe zawk ang ka ring.…ti mai ang.

4) A textual production leh readership ah hrim2 hi chuan, ka sawi awmzia ah chuan chiang e a…tin Korinth khuaa mite chauh a address lo tih chu kan hriat tlan ka ring. A hun a zirin, an mamawh nia a hriat angin a chawm tih na deuh ani e…Tunah pawh kan hun tawn ang zel a Pathianin min hruai ang deuh hian. Mahse Paula chu mihring ani. Fallibility of humans chu i hrechiang zawk ngei ang.

5) “Zir chiang lova chhiar liam puat” category ah khian ilo in dah ve ngawt a. a bul a i hming ka mention nachhan khi, place it in a context and you will know where the argument stands. Nangma comment a zarah i Bible verse ho zawk kha weapons of power and subordination a an lo hman thin thu ka sawina. Another case of misinterpretation!

6) Theology chu ka zir ve lo. Mahse i zir anih te chuan Bible pawh hi hermeneutic circle, “part of the whole which cannot be understood without the context of the whole” tih vel kha kei aiin i hre hne in i hre chiang zuah zuah ngawt in ka ring.

(eden huana thei ei tih vel hi chu gays sawichhe duh hovin God made adam and eve, not adam and steve an tih ang vel a lame ah ka ngai)NOI
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pari Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
nell_maiden: Bible pawm dan tur te chu sawi lul love a…miin tha an tih ang zawng zawng question miah lova pawngpaw lo zawm nghal tawp lovin, i hrechiang hmasa phawt ang u ka tih na anih kha.

Pathian chu nangmah ang bawkin omnipresent, omnipotent leh omniscient being ani tih ka accept thlap. “outside the time dimension” a exist lam aia ka zawhna zawk chu, engtin nge kan present ‘reality’ ah hian Pathian thu in awmzia a neih?, kan lifestyle choice sawifel nan Bible hi kan hmang nge Bible hi kan duhthlanna determine tu, that depends on how we “choose” to understand the Bible tih lam zawk ani. Danglam ve ngailo Pathian pawh nise mihringte chu kan danglam reng a (evident fact,hehe ), hun a in thlak reng a, hmanlai thil redundant tawh tam tak kha tunah a applicable lo nual ve bawk a.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
pari, selah whew
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
e pari, selah hi ka hmang fo a, google emaw zawt chawp lo chuan Pathianthu inti hre deuh ho hi selah awmze hrelo an tam ang ka ring ka hre bik e ka tihna erawh a ni lo an interpret sual dawn tih chu an rilru mil zelin a chiang sa alawm.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Pari

Personal zawngin ka la a ni hleinem. ka hming i rawn sawi takah chuan ka thil sawi tum sawifiah pahin ka rawn hmer tel ta vel mai maii che a nih kha. Lak personal bik awih loh

“part of the whole which cannot be understood without the context of the whole” tih thurin vei bur chi ka ni..lolz. Entirety of the Bible atanga interpret ngaiin ka hria, concerned context mai nilovin.

Engpawhnise tuna tan chuan we have to agree to disagree kan ti hrih phawh aniang chu Thanks 4 the discussion.

TC and God Bless.
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pari Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
@HV: keipawh ka hre miah lo a bible hrechiang ho in sawifiah se a tha ang a
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pari Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
@donald: thanx 2 u and God bless u 2.
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donald Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Lolzz.. thil nuam ve mai mai a ka hriat chu mi hi hrechiang em em ila, anni hian min hre ve der si lo se

Mu tawh mai ang lum em mai.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
pari, “hmanlai thil redundant tawh tam tak kha tunah a applicable lo nual ve bawk a,” i tih hi, a hun a zirin interpret dan tur an zawng mai niin ka hri ve thin. Reduntant, hahahhaa i van exam written ligo tiah tiah vele hahaha “required” ti ve mai la, keini Hringchar lam zir chhuak emaw ang deuh chuan kan buai phah der mai dawn asin
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
donald, #86 khi keimah min sawi chhan niin ka hria a, pawi ka ti hleinem. Min sawisel na tur i neih ka ringlo, ka tunhma nun khawlo te a tha ho aia hre duh mi i nih ngat phei chuan engah mah ka ti heklo. In remind erawh ka duh miahlo thung. Ka tunhma nun tha aia thalo te min hriatsak tum tu te zing a mi i nih chuan in chhan tawh loh ka thlang bawk ang.

Hmeichhe rahbeh duhtu lo ni tawh lola a ni mai e hairehai

Shillong lam ngawt hi a nilo ania.
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pari Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
@HV; kalo tibuai lok che, enge Hringchar chu ?(sorry for my ignorance)
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funny Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
donald: I argument atangin Pathianthu zir pawh lo ni tehreng la I intellectual loh zia an hriat avangin an hnial thra peihlo niin kalo hre deuh bera.. i duh chuan keimah min rawn hnial ta che…
feminist ho hian hetiang nangmah ang patirarchal society chuak tih hriat reng khawpa rilru kal khat lutuk hi an hnial thra peihlo..

Hnial miahlo che hian a kil atrangin anlo nuihzat hle che tih i hriat thiam hunah chuan hetiang theory hi Ila rawn sawi leh dawnnia..
I argument atranga I intellectual loh zia atang hian mi intellectual ho hian hnial enah pawh enlo che in a kil atangin anlo nuih liam vel mai mai che tih hi lo hreve teh.. with all due respect..
khitiang arguments hi i rawn sawi hma daih hian anlo chhiar nasa tawh lutuk tlatsss… hetiang lam hi lo zir nasa viau rawh, hnial pawh ka hnial peihlo che.. I argument level hi a hniam lutuka..
ka inti thiam emaw, ka inti hria emaw inlo ti ange, a teuhlo mai a teuhlo mai.. ka subject pawh anilo. hehehe

Hetiang ang mi thilsawi accept duh chuang silova, mahni ngaihdan rational lo deuh keep up tlat tum ho hi keipawhin ka hnial thra peih miahlo.. vetho ana. lolzz
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
funny, i van man rang ang reng ve a comment miah lovin i lo study char2 a ni maw.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
pari, Hringchar chu Mizo ten Silchar kan sawina a ni e. Kolkata hi Kulkhut, France hi Feren in Mizo.

Lam thiam loh vang kan ti thei mahse, English a Latin, Greek etc an lak chhawn te hi an lamthiam loh vang tih ai chuan an tawng, English an tih hausakna a lo ni daih. ti duah hahahaha
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mkima Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Chutihchu Thu hril hi thupuang tu a nia, mihnenah thudawn sawi chhawng an nia, Isua leh apostle te thu hril sawi chhawng tu chu kei ni hi kan nia. Hril lovin sawi rawh ati lova ,

Chan Chin Tha hi HRIL rawh u a tih hian hmeichhia a sawi hrang lo.

bung 14:34 hmeichhia chu ngawi rengin awmrawh se atih Korrinth khua chan chin kan ngai tuah tel a pawi mawh. paula hian engvangah he thu sawi nge a nih tih hi ngai tuah tel i la.
Chang 26 a trang khan chhiar la trawnghriat lohvin thu an sawi khan hrilh fiah hman lo vin an sawi ve theuh tinah ani. a thu kal hmang kha, tin miin thu a hril in an trawng ve zel ani.engkim mawi takah tih a that thu a zirtira.

tunah chuan kan changkang tawh inkhawm banah committee kan nei thin, emaw Upa kan thu khawm thin. khanglai hun khan inkhawmna hmunah rorel a ni a, hmechhia an lo trawngve chhen bawka chuvangin thusawi a khapsak ani. pathian thu hril a khap lo.

ka pa in Upa committee an neih zawhah ka nun engnge in rel tiin a zawt a, he ti hian a chhang i hraittur chu Biakin ah an puang mai ang a tidik ka ti khawp mai.
ka nu hriat hriattur chu nise mipui committee an nei ang.

Chuvang chuan kan hmeichhia te pawn Bible an zirve a tha.

ka sawi dan hmangin i hriat thiam ka beisei.ka thu ziah erawh a kim lo leh nual maithei. .
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emaroj™ Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Keichu U mkima ka tran..
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
khitiang vela kan ngaih vang khian alawm kan rahbeh an nih reng mawle tu emaw a rawn ON a nih kha hairehai
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funny Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Pu HV: hahaha. ania lawm a duhleh keimah ngei hi min rawn hnial sela.. ka cho khawpmai. hehehe
a comment tawh ho intellectual loh zia leh hnial dan dantur ka hre hneh lutuk hi ka nuih a za.. vawiin thleng pawh khan ka hnial peihlo anih kha. lolzzzz
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emaroj™ Says:
June 9th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
@funny tikhan ti pang pang suh.. Bible chang a hriat zek khi aw.. i dang lehsi ange.. mahse pui tu tur che (mkima) om toha, i kawnfi nge? haha
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misuala Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:02 am
inhnialna atthlakah chuan tel duh suh u
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:11 am
misuala, ni chiah, tul lovah hian Mizo te hian kan hmeichhia te kan rahbeh zia hi zep rual ni silo, insawi thiam an tumphet hi a tullo ngawt asin

funny
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muantea Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:27 am
Inhnial in ti elo, inhnial chiah ila
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:31 am
misuala@ inhnial a nih loh hi, thudik zawn chhuah ngai a nih zawk hi.

aA thu kal hmang chu kohhran dang a va ti ve lova, korinth chauh hi a tih bikna chhan chu, korinth khua thil atchilh hi an hmanga.

The Encyclopedia of Americana phek 693 vol-7 na kan chhiar chuan korinth khua buai zia chu a ziah kha.AD 55-56 inkar ah khan, paula a hman loh deuh leh an buai mai. Universal Standard ENCY. PHEK 2019 VOL-6 ah pawh a zirtir thu chu a sawi kha.
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Bible ah Mipa lovin hmechhia a awm thei lova, Hmechhia lovin mipa a awm theih loh a ti. kan inangchiah. dah hniam loh tur duat zawk tur.
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Viking Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 8:48 am
donald a Bible pawm dan khi ka pawm dan chiah ani.

Ka lawm e

–LVK
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Keipawh donald duck ka sapawt e.

Paula hian korinth ho hnenah hian zilh hauna thu a thawn ngei mai mahse kohhran zawng2 ah a applicable tih chiang takin a sawi.

korinth chauh anih loh zia chu zotawng bible lehlinthar kha chhiar la, 1Kor 14:33-34 ah khan tihian a inziak – kohhran tina Pathian mithinghlimte tihdan angin..
kohhran tin chuan korinth chiah a huap lo ang. Chubakah he khapna hi korinth kohhran tan ani ngei a, an buai zia pawh paula lehkha atang hian a hriata mahse a khapna chhan ber chu an buai vang ngawt a ni lo a, korinth ho tan chauh pawh a nilo. A chhan paulan a sawi chu thilzahthlak a nih vang a ti. In buai nei nuai em vang hian hmeichhia in thu sawi ve suh se a ti lo a, kohhran inkhawmna a hmeichhe thusawi ve hi a zahthlak a ti ani.

Bible in zahthlak a tia, zahthlak lo ti tlat tu chuan duh leh sawi ang hmiang.. an thu alom. Hmeichhe hnung zui dual dual mai rawh se. In khap chi ani lo. Pathian in a rel fel mai ang chu.

Lehlawks: Hmeichhia leh mipa kan in ang chiah titu te khan in kap bawr kha han dap teh u … in lo in ang tak tak emni? … kan inang ang hlawlllllllll lo.
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rotekawlasepa Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Ha ha ha ha…… A va ngaihnawm luai luai ve le. In inhnialna kan chhiar a ka teh ber chu – Film hmuhnawm tak kan en a, a changtupa leh Misualpa an insual a, a chang leh AchangtuPa an bet deuh rak rak a, chumi hnuah MisualPa an bet leh deuh rak rak thin, kei nin thuthmun nuam tak atangin kan lo thlir thin hi ka chan deuh ber mai.

Awle he thupui hot tak hi Ka Khar E !!!!!
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lalpeace Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:06 am
#102, ‘Care’ tur i tihna em ni?
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LakherAnthur Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Further discussion on Pu HV’s text: Gal 3:28 (Paul’s words)
Logic and common sense in the text:

Jews = Greeks (Gentiles) in all including church leadership

Slave = Free in all including church leadership

Male = Female in all including church leadership

By the way, the Bible does not explicitly prohibits slavery. But today we know that slavery was wrong then and it is wrong today. So even if Paul’s words in some texts seem to restrict women leadership in the church, it must be read against the backdrop of the first century Palestine where no woman held public and religious offices. When we read the Bible, we must first try to understand what the text meant then within the context and culture of the original recipients,then only can we understand what it means to us today.

In olden days, yes, there were not many women in public offices all over the world. This is simply because they were not give a chance to study or to hold such offices. Till recently in Europe and North America, women did not have voting rights. So given opportunity and chance, women can do almost everything men can. To argue based on physical strength is a bit of naiive. I am a short and weak man physically, so I am not able to do many things other men could do easity. There are many women who are stronger than me physically. Today, we do not perform things or do our works and ministries using physical strenth. We use computers and machines. So let me repeat, women can do everything men do.

Mizoram churches have denied female folks to exercises their spiritual gifts including leadership and preaching and teaching gifts for too long. This is a great injustice done to our women. Let us wake up and come back to our senses.
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shailendra Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Inhnialna in sawi takah chuan, Nimin lam khan ‘Insurance’ lampang hawi post kha a awm emaw ka ti a, tukin chu ka zawng hmu zo ta tlat lo mai a… khaw nge ?
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lalpeace Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:19 am
@Shai, Jewel chuan a policy a la zawrh ve lo che em ni?
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shailendra Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:23 am
lalpeace, khamrang te, van damme te, etc etc. in a policy zawrh, a chuh in an inchuh a, ka la chang ve hman thlawt lo a ni e. A tawp lamah an pawh zawr hrep hnu te chu kan chang ve mahna…
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PimPom Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Hmeichhia te pawh hi an mak ve reng reng a ni. A bikin, mizoram synod hian a nemnghet duhlo ani tih hrerengin an zir a, an zirzo te te a, chumi khami hmunah chuan an nemnghet, nemngheh nih loh chu harsatna a awm chuti khati, anti leh lawi si zirlo maise a ni mai tur.
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Mak ngwt mai. Engpawhnise he thu hi chu inhnialna nasa ber pawl a ni ve reng reng a. Thu har a tling ve a nia nge.

Hre zau deuh duh tan conservative theologian lar zual deuh te ngaidan hi lo chhiar ve ru.. bengvar thlak phian a nia. John Piper phei hi chu Chris deuh chu hrelo in awm kher lo ang.

https://www.desiringgod.org/Res.....e_pastors/

https://www.gotquestions.org/women-pastors.html
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Art-a@ chuti hmeichhia chu in ah apasal zawt turin inkhawm lovin awm mai se la. i duh dawn em?

calatia 3;27- hla kha paih vek rawh. chu tianga hmeichhia thu sawi lo tur intih chuan.
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 11:12 am
A tawngpawng sawi chinglovin Bible hi zirve deuh teh u. tum a nei a nia. hrilhfiah vekseng kan phur zo lo vang.
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 11:19 am
1 korinth 11:5 na, Amaherawhchu hmeichhia lukhum khum lova trawgtai emaw, THU hril emaw apiangin an lu an timualpho a ni. ziah kawn nen thuhmun reng a ni sia.
An lu kha khum sela thu ansawi ve a thiang tih na ani.
bung 14:34 a ziah hma daih hian hian 11:5 hi thu hi a ziak tawh.
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Viking Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Hmeichhia leh Mipa chu an in ang ( equal ) mahse, role hran kan nei mai ani.

Gal 3:28–”There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female; for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ” Heta,hi chuan CHANDAMNA hi mi zawng zawng tan ani a. Jews tan pawh ani a, Greek tan pawh ani a,sal emaw sal lo emaw, hmeichhia emaw mipa emaw tan pawh CHHANDAMNA hi angkhat vek a ni. An changthei vek atihna ani e.

Ka lawm e

–LVK
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 11:29 am
chu ti chuan chu chhandamna hmeichha pawn a neih ve kha, midangte zirtir ve lovin, an pasal te sawikha an ring mai dawn em ni? mipa zawng2 indo naah thifai vek i la, hmeichhia chu a hre tawhsa tih loh chu chhandam an ni dawn ta lo nih chu. lol
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funny Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 11:33 am
donald a hi han tih thinrim deuh kan tum ania a rawn lang tha duh tawhlo tlatmai.

hetiang lamah chuan engmah han sawi ve tur ka hre lem hlei lova.
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
mkima : Bible zir i sawi elo.. khawvel pawhin theology lama thiamber pawla a neih mek te article link ka rawn paste khi chhiar teh. Nang leh kei ai chuan an hre deuh zawk maithei. Nangai chuan an zir nasa deuh in ka ring bawk.

I tapchhak zawla ngaihdan i vawrhvir ve mai mai kha thutak khuka khukpui tur chuan khawngaih in min beisei lo hram teh khai.. lol

Viking : well said. I sawidan khi mithiamte ngaihdan pawh niin a lang. Gal 3:28 hi mimawl chuan ngai sualin chhandamna chungchang sawina ani tih hrelo in mipa leh hmeichhia kan awm hrang twh lo a, kan in ang ta tihna emaw an ti tlat nia mawle.. mak thei ngei. Greek ho te hi an awm toh lo ah an ngai emaw ni teh reng ni. .. Hmani lawk news ah kha chuan Greece ram buai thu te kha kan la hmu sia.
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Hmeichhia chu pastor ah an tang emaw tang lo emaw, hnialna ka nei lem lo. An peih phot te chuan ka ti mai. hahthlak awm awm nen.. mahse hmeichhe pastor ordain lo ho hian chhan tha tak an nei chuan ka hre ve mai mai. ordain duh leh duh lo te argument en hian a duhlo ho te argument hi a convincing zawk chuan ka hria (tuna kan topic chauh nilo in.. khawvel huap pawhin ka tihna).

ka lom e.. peace out !
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Art-a@
I ti dik chiah. I tapchhak ngaituahna i hmang thin tiin ani. lehkhatiam te ai in thlarau hrilhfiahna a trangkai zawk. petera te lehkha thiam lo khan an sawi thiam khawp, an ngam bawk.

1korinth 1;20-27 mi fing chu khawiah nge? lehkhaziaktu chu khawiah nge? he khawvela hnialtu chu khawiah nge? Pathianin khawvel finna hi atthlak a ni tih a hriattir lo vem ni? Pathian finna ah chuan khawvelin finna hmanga Pathian an hriat theih loh hnuin, thu hril atthlak hmanga a ringtute Chhhandam chu tha a ti hle si a.

keini erawh chua krista an khenbeh thu ka hril thin.

;25 Pathian atna chu mihring aiin a fing zawk a, Pathian chaklohna pawh chu mihring aiin a chak zawk si a.

:26 U naute u, a kohna che u hi ngaituah teh u, tisa lama mi fing tam tak te, mi chak tam tak te, mitha tam tak te koh a nih loh zia hi.

:27 nimahsela Pathianin khawvel thil ate chu a thlang zawk a.

paula trawngkam.
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
mkima:

John Piper te ai hian thlarau mi ah i in ngai deuh emni?

Krista khenbeh thu hi i hril let tamfe an hril tawh ngei ang.

Bible zir i sawi a, a zirte ngaihdan ka rawn link mai a lawm. Anni ai hian hre zawkah i in ngai deuh em ni?

Ka tapchhal zawl ngaihdan chu comment #120 khi ani mai e
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
lehkhatiam leh thlarau hrilhfiahna hi a tangkai ve ve tih chu Paula hi eg tha ber aniang. Petera ai chuan sulhnu pawh a ngah zawk in alang bawk. Petera meuh pawh a zilhau ani lawmni kha? ka hre sual em ?
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Lo sawi chhunzawm toh teh un… tiang lama inhnial hian sawtna a nei tlem emai ka bang daih dawn. Pastor te chu a peih apiangin thawk se nimai, an chak ve tlat te chuan.. hehehe
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Art-a, tu te ai mahin ka lian lo ve.

kha nang chu tunah pawh i peih lo nghal mai alom, hmechhian thawkse nang aiin an peih rei deuh ang ka ring. i ai ah chhawr an ngai nghal. lol
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Ni reng e mawle.. thawk mawlh rawh se ka hnial awzawng lo mai. Pathian hian a lo hnial angem tih thu zawk ania. kei in ka peih loh vang hian mipa zawng2 in an peih lo tihna emaw hmeichhia hi mipa aiin an tha zawk tihna erawh ani hauh lo mai Hruaitua va in candidate vel hi ka peih awzawng lo mai.. min ruat anih ngot siloh chuan [eg CM ah te.. ejejeje]
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Bible chuan hruaitu nih duh suh u, rorelna a keng tam a tih kha. ni lo law law mai teh.
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Art-a Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
nih leh CM nilo in .. adviser 2 CM
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
i duh duh ni rawh. he subject hi kan pahnih ta bik a ang, chawl ang.
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mkima Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
ka mu mai dawn khua a var trep tawh dar 4 a ni der mai. hmannah pakhat pa ang deuh khan, in duh duh kha sawi mai rawh u.. lol
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
shai, i fb mail i en em aw?
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donald Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Ni e.. a duh2 chu lo pastor sela sawisel tur a ni lo e. Dik leh tha an tih angin an kal a ni mai a. Chutiang bawkin eng kohhran pawh nise Pathian thu nen inkalha an hriat avanga an ordain lo a nih pawhin ‘hmeichhe rahbehna’ ah ngaihsak lo ila. Pathianin an thinlung chu a hre vek ngei ang, Amah tihna thinlung avanga ordain lo an nih chuan, lo sawisel chiam kha Pathian pawi sawina a ni thei a, lehlamah hmeichhe rahbeh duhna thinlung vanga ordain duh lo an nih ngat chuan Aman a thungrul mai ang.

Keini tehlul hian helai ah engmah kan chingfel dawn chuang lo a, Pathian kuta dah mai a tha ber ang. I vengte dawtin hek suh tih a nih kha. Miin thinlung dik tak put avanga an ordain lo kha rahbehna ah kan puh chuan ‘dawta hek’ kan ni tihna a ni. Midang sawisel hi a tha lo a, kohhran ngat phei hi chu fiahna chiangkuang tak kan neih loh phei chuan sawisel hi thil hlauhawm tak a ni. Pathian mit naute a ni si a.
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Jamp Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
@ 43 rotekawlasepa=A dik alawm i sawi hi. Mahse tunge tling sa awm? Mihring reng reng hi eng hnaah pawh tling taka thawk tur chuan zirna bakah work exposure tha an neih phawt a ngai asin! I ngaih dan anga kan hmeichhiate hi Pastor/rawngbawltu hna atan an lo tling lo tak tak a nich chuan tunge mawhphur ta ang. Kan male-dominated kohhran hi mawle, chance an pe lo alawm.

Mahse a nihna takah chuan hetianga kohhranin hmeichhiate a rap bet reng chung hian, kan Mizo hmeichhiate zingah hian kan kohhran hruaitu mipa tam tak aia thawk tha zawk leh tlin zawk tur hi an awm teuh tih hi lo hre ve leh hram teh. I hmu tling lo mai mai a nih chu.
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
qualify phawt chuan pastor se….mipa emaw , hmeichhia emaw, til reh emaw, pherh emaw, patil emaw…
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Jamp Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
@waterboy= Ha ha ha, i ti leh lutuk si.
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
he he jamp…mihring vek tho alawm annih
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
1Korinth 6:9-11 ah chuan Anih leh, mi fel lote chuan Pathian ram an luah lo vang tih in hre lo em ni le? Bumin awm suh u; inngaih hmangte emaw, milem betute emaw, uirete emaw, mi hurte emaw, mawngkawhurte emaw, ruk hmangte emaw, mi duhamte emaw, zu ruih hmangte emaw, mi hau hmangte emaw, hleprute emawin Pathian ram an luah lo vang.

Pherh chu pastor lul love, vanram kailo tur sa in min kaihhruai ten
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
he he HV…pherh ka soi tel na chhan chu i lo comment dawn tih ka hriat avangin….lol…

pathian ram luah chu va har dawn ve!!!!

“inngaih hmangte emaw”- hei hi enge a meaning tak?, people in love?
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pibuhdeng Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Khaih khaih khaih, pherh leh patil chu pastor lul love…mai mai thin a. Kan tunlai mite ngaihdan thin hi chu awww
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
waterboy, Mizo tawng hian an let tha fumfe lo fo.

Uire tu te leh uire te tiin English ah chuan a inziak.
Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
ehe…HV…ka bo leh zual…inngaih hmangte = fornicators….inneih tawh sex hmang nasa lutuk te pawh hi an tel ang a?

chuan effiminate= tuai, mahse patil an tel ve lo tlats

pibuhdeng…pherh leh patil pastor an awm chuan bang rawh se…roman catholic fathers (child molesters) pawh hi bang rawh se
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pibuhdeng Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
nia bang bang bang rawh se.
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
waterboy, Bible ah hian Deuteronomy ah leh hmundang tlemte ah chiah lesbian/patil a sawina ka hmu. An hun lai khan an tam vaklo ni tur a ni.

Deuteronomy 22:5 ah chuan, hmeichhiain mipa thuamhnaw an in bel tur a ni lo va, mipain hmeichhe silhfen an inbel tur a ni hek lo; tupawh chutiang ti apiang chu LALPA in Pathian ngaihin mi tenawm an ni.

Romans 1:26

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;

Rom 1:21-27 ah chuan, Pathian hre siin Pathian angin an chawimawi lo va; lawmthu pawh an sawi hek lo; thil lawilo an ngaihtuah ta zawk a, an thinlung a chu a lo thim ta a. Finga inngaiin mi aah an lo chang a, thi thei lo Pathian ropuina chu thi thei mihringte leh sava te, fuliafa te, rannung te lem angah an chantir ta a.

Chuvangin an taksa zahthlak taka insiam tawn turin an thinlung chakzawng anga thil bawlhhlawh tih phalin Pathianin a hawisan a ni. Pathian thutak chu dawta chanitirin, a Siamtu biak aiin a siama chu biain a rawng an bawl ta zawk si a. A Siamtu chu chatuana fak tlak a ni. Amen.

Chu mi avangin Pathianin zahthlak taka hur phalin a hawisan a; an hmeichhiate meuh pawhin an awm dan pianpui chu dan lo anga awm turin an inti danglam si a; mipate pawhin hmeichhe hman dan pangai bandana hurin an init a, mipa leh mipa tha lo takin an inti a, an sual man hmuh tur chu anmahniah an hmu a.
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
HV….Bible atang tuai ai chuan patil nih a risky lo zawkin a lang tlats…he he

chuan mipa leh hmeichhe thawmhnaw tih hian, thliar hrang a va har awm ve…kan thil inbel hi chu tunlai chhuak vek ani bawk sia, khang hun laia mipa emaw hmeichhe thawmhnaw emaw kan inbel tawh si lova…
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
waterboy, #143 ka edit khi han chhiar tha leh mai2 teh a
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
sap bible ah khan a chiang zawk anih kha…he he he

tu emaw ka hria a, tatoo chu abomination atia, pherh te chu a tan leh viau sia?
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
waterboy, “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28).

Bible hi a tawng hnem khawp asin
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
do not cut your beards or your hair pawh a inti tho …NOI?

thuthlung thar hi thuthlung hlui ai chuan follow zawk ila a zia deuh mahna
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H.Vangchhia Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
waterboy, ni khawp mai, thuthlunghlui dan tam lutuk kha Isuan min rawn tih awlsam sak vek tawh si a tiraw

mahse #143 a Rom khi chu thuthlung thar a mi ahems

Khawnge zin turin kan insiam ang e
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waterboy Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
ehem….143 chu poi lo…e heheheee…khi takah khi chuan ka fihlim….khuh khuh thuthlungthar
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LakherAnthur Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Ka kawmen tawpna tan:

Church of North India (CNI) leh Garo Baptist Convention GBC) pawl te chuan kan Mizo hmeichhia te an zinga thawktute an ordain tawh. The so-called non-Mizo value our women more than we Mizo men value our own women. What a shame! “A prophet is not honored in his home town”, so Jesus says.
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As_Khiangte Says:
June 10th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
kan sawi ve hrim2 tawh teh ang, hriat loh ang angin.

Ordination chungchangah bible criteria kal pelin hmeichhe ordain tu kohhran an lo tam ta hle, a chhan pakhat chu kohhran a lo tla hniam a rawngbawltu indaih loh vang a ni anga, a dang leh chu sawi treuh tawh ang khian feminist movement a ni mai. 20th century laihawl a women liberation movement in tran kal zel rah chhuah a ni mai a. Hmeichhe theologian, ordain duh vanga an awmna kohhran chhuah san duh hial te an lo awm takah chuan kohhranin kawng dang a hawi ta a ni mai lawm ni.

Hmeichhe theologian tan kohhran office leh hna dangah thawh tur a tam lutuk, kan chhawr treuh hi. Missionary nih nan hlei hlei theological background neih chu a trangkai. Zir zel rawh se.
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