Pathian, khawihmunah pawh awm chuan mihring a siam a, ama anpui ngeiin, mihring tan an chenna tur Eden huan a siam bawk a, chutah chuan a chen tir a. Chu huan lai tak ah chuan nunna thing leh chhia leh tha hriatna thing chu a awm a.
Pathian vantirhkoh, Zinglam Fapa chuan Pathian a dona avangin mihringte chu Pathian thilsiam vekin a ti thi ta a, Pathian thinrimna chuan Eden huan atang leh van khua leh tui atang hnawtchhuak mahse inchhirnain a khat thin a.
A hmangaihna nasa tak chuan amah ngeiin a thilsiam vek hmanga a lak let leh a rorelna dik a nei nan,midang tello, amah ngei chu inngaitlawmin mihring bawhchhiatna chu rawn tuar turin Fapa, mihringah alo chang ta a.
Pathian remruat danah sual ngaihdam nan thisen chhuah ngei a ngai a.Ran thisen mai chu mihringte sual la bo turin a tling zo lo a, ran te chu mihringte aia hnuaihnung an nih tlat avangin.
Mihring zingah hian tlanna hna thawk zo tumah an awm bawk heklo a,a chhan chu mi zawng zawngin thil an tisual vek tawh a,hremna a thi tlak vek kan ni(Rom 3:23). Pathian chauh chu sualna neilo a ni a, mahsela tisa leh thisen a nei silo a, chutichuan Pathian chuan ama tan taksa a insiam ta a(Hebrew 10:5).
Tichuan tisaa nung taksa nei alo ni ta a,mihringte chhandam nan sualna neilo thisen a lo pe chhuak thei ta a ni. Tisa leh thisen nei alo ni ta a, Thihna hmangin sual a hneh ta a, sual lak ata mihringte a hruai chhuak thei ta a ni (Heb 2-14-15).
Hetiang kawng hian Isua chu Pathian lungawina min siam sak tu alo ni ta a, chumi avang chuan sual ngaihdamna kan lo nei ta a ni, chutah chuan Pathian dikna pawh a lungawi ve thei ta a, Pathian thinurna thianghlim chu a lungawi ta a ni(Rom 3:25).
Fapa inpumpekna hi A felnain phut nei lova Pathianin kan sualna te a ngaihdamna tur hmanrua chu a ni a,Pathian Fapa inhlanna turin, Pathian hnena Isua inpumhlanna avang chuan chhandamin kan lo awm thei ta a ni (John 3:16,Heb 10:10-20). Chuti chuan Fapa chu kan tan inthawina leh kan sual tana Pathian lungawina siamtu alo ni ta a ni.
Kan laichin Tlantu kan neih theihna pawh hi Fapa a nihna vang bawk a ni a, OT ah miin a thil neih a hralh chuan emaw amah ngei bawiah a inhralh chuan, a laichin hnaivai tuin emaw lei let theihna chanvo a nei a ni(Lev 25:25). Tisaa alo kal avangin Isua chu kan(pianpui)unau a lo ni thei ta bawk a (Heb 2:11-12). Chuti chuan kan unau laichin Tlantu nih alo tling thei ta a ni. Bible chuan kan Tlantu tiin a lo hrilhfiah ta a ni(Rom 3:24,Rev 5:9). Chumi avng chuan mihringin Abba (ka Pa) tiin Pathian chu a lo au ta a ni.
A mihring nihna avang bawk hian Isua chu a palai thei ta a,chu chu mihring leh Pathian inkara palai,Pathian hma a mihring aiawh tu tihna a ni.Pathian hna a thawhna ah hian mihring leh Pathian a inrem tir ta a,Mihring chu Pathian thian atan a siam thei ta a ni.Pathian thianghlim leh sual fa mihring inkar chu sual neilo Isua chuan a dawh zawm ta a.
“Pathian pakhat chauh a awm a,Pathian leh mihring inkarah palai pakhat chauh a awm bawk a,amah chu mihring a ni,Isua chu” tih a ni(1Timothy 2:5).”Palai reng reng pakhat lakah palai a ni ngai lo,Pathian erawh chu pakhat a ni”a ti bawk(Gal 3:20).
Heng chang te hian Pathian ah chuan mihring leh Pathian a awm kawplo a,Isua ah chuan Pathian leh mihring a awm kawp a ni zawk!Pathian leh mihring inkara Palai chu Pathian a ni lova,”Fapa Pathian” pawh a ni lova,mihring Isua a ni hna thawk ni;mihring aiawha palai hna thawk chu sualna neilo mihring,Pathian thianghlim hmaa ding thei Isua chu a ni.
Mihring a nihna avang bawk hian Adama pahnihna a ni tel nghal a(1kor 15:45-47).Tisaa sualna awmlo chu hneh tur leh thihna ngei chu hneh turin alo kal a ni(Rom 8:3).Mihring zawng zawng aiawhtu Adam a ai chu a rawn awh a,mihring ang a alo kal vang chuahin Adama dinhmun chu a rawn luah thei ta a ni.
Chutianga a lo awm tak avang chuan Adama bawhchhiatna avanga thil lo awm zawng zawng chu a lehthal ta vek bawk a ni(Rom 5:12_21)Adama avnga mihringin a thil hlauh tawh zawng zawng chu Adama pahnihna Isua chuan a lei let leh ta vek a, mihring zawng zawngte aiawhtu thar,chi leh hnam thar dintu alo ni ta a ni.
Isua kan thlirdan tur kawng awm leh chu tisaa sualna awm a hnehna hi a ni.Tisaa Isua a lo kal hian thi tur ringawtin alo kal lova,a tihdan anga kan tih ve theihnan sual hnehna nun min pe turin alo kal bawk a ni (1 Pet 2:21).Tisaa sualna hneha nun dan tur min kawh hmuh a.
Pathian thu tisaa lo lang a ni(John 1:1)Thu nung a ni a, tichuan Pathianin eng ang a nung turin nge min duh kan hre thei ang. Nun dan tur anga kan nun theihnan thiltihtheihna min pe bawk a. A thihna a Pathian nen kan inrem ta ang bawkin, a nunna vangin chhandamin kan awm ta a ni(Rom 5:10).
Aman nung tura min duh dan anga dik taka kan nun theih nan A thlarau chuan thiltihtheihna min pe bawk a(Acts 1:8,Rom 8:4).Fapa chuan Pathian hma a mihringte ai a awh ang bawkin,mihringte hmaah Pathian ai awh bawk a ni.A thiltih engkimah mihring ai a awh avangin mihringin Pa a neih nan te,Pathian fa nih nan te amah ngei chuan a tihmasa a,”Ka Pa” tiin a lam fo thin,chumi avang chuan mihring chu Pathian fa kan lo ni ta bawk a ni.
Tirhkoh a ni a,Pathian thlarau a ni a,tlanna hna thawk tur a Pathian tirh a ni bawk.Zawlnei nih a fawm a(Acts 3:20-23).Mihring alo channa ah hian a dinhmun a khirh em em a, a chhan chu mihringte zawl tawk a nun a ngaih vang a ni.
Fapa a nihna hmang bawk hian dik takin mihringte pawh ro ala rel sak ve leh dawn bawk a.Pathian chu a fel a,a dik bawk a,zahngai thei tak a ni bawk a.Amah ngeiin mihring anga thlemna leh harsatna te a tawh ve phawtloh chuan leh,chung te chu tisain dik takin a hnehthei tih a tihlan hmasak zetloh chuan,mihring te chunga rorelna hlen chu a zahngaihna leh inlungrualna chuan tha a tilo a.
Bible hian Pain tumah thiamloh a chan tirloh tur thu a sawi a,Fapa chauh chuan ro ala rel dawn a,a chhan chu Mihring Fapa a nih avangin a hnenah rorelna pek a ni(John 5:22)a chhan chu Amah ngeiin alo tur vek tawh vang leh mihring tan sual hnehna a pek tawh vang a ni.
Hebrew bung 1 thu ah chuan Fapa chungchang ngaihnawm tak mai a awm.Chang 3 thu chuan Fapa chu Pathian ropuina eng leh a tak anpui ngei a nih thu a sawi a.”A tak” tia lehlin hi Greek tawng atang chuan “Hypostasis” a ni a,KJV ah mi(person) ti a lehlin a ni a.
Chu chu tak nei, mizia,mi tihna a ni. Chang 3 thu hi NIV chuan “Fapa chu Pathian ropuina eng leh Pathian aiawhtu” tiin a dah a.Chumi ang thu chu Kolossa 1:15 ah “Hmuhtheihloh Pathian anpui”tiin.Fapa chu Pathian aiawh leh anpui alo ni ta a,Pathian ropuina a keng tel bawk a.Pa,Pathian hmuhtheihloh chu hmuhtheih tisa Fapa ah a lo chang a,tichuan Pathian ropuina chu mitinin an hmu thei ta a,”Pathian chu eng mizia leh eng nge a nih kan lo hre thei ta a ni.
Pathian hian a ropuina hi tumah a hlan chhawng ngai lova(Isaiah 49:11),Fapa erawh Pa ropuinain a thuam ta zawk a,chuti chuan Isua chu Pa,Fapa nih fawm, thlarau thianghlim chu ni. Chhiartu te Pathianin malsawm che u rawh se.
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Chh1ar phawt teh ang.
October 2nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Amen.(Y)
October 2nd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Chawngkhum dan tlang huat loh.. Hmun pakhatah hian UPC ho hian ISUA HI PATHIAN A NI tih ziak hi an tar a, Presbyterian pa hian A NILO KAN TIA MI tih ziak zu han tar ve a mawle.. hairehai 😛
October 2nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Hnam Sakhua ang chi deuha thil ti hi kan pung zel a nih hmel e a..
October 2nd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
HNAM SAKHUA Part 2 a nih hi 😀
October 2nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Modalism a ni emaw eng lism pawh ni rawh se helaia inhnialna tur atana thu chhawpchhuah hi thil tha ber a nih ka ring lem lo. Trinitarian lam pawh ni rawh se inhnialna ang zawnga thu lak ching hi an rah chhuak vak ngai lem lo.
Dik tak chuan Oneness a ni emaw Trinitarian lam a ni emaw khawi amah hi a dik ber e a tih theih hauh lo vang. Rilru inpawh tak chunga sawi heuh heuh tur chi ni awmin a lang. Chutiang ni lova doctrine inhnialna ang zawnga kal pui hi KRISTIANte tih tur ni awmin a lang lo.
Misual.com tha ka tihna riau chu- Oneness leh Trinity lam inhnialna tunhmain post ala awm miah lo hi a ni pakhat bawk. Ka hriatsual loh chuan tun hnai atang hian a lo awm tan ve chauh ni.
Thu inchuh rau rauah hian inhneh(convince)theih miah loh chhan hi hriat tam vang leh pawm dan a ni tlangpui thin a. He topic pawh hi hriat tam piah lama pawmdan a nih avangin tumah kan inhneh kher lo vang. Tamtak chu trinity hriat chian vang emaw oneness hriat chian vang emaw pawh ni si lovin tan lam an nei nghal thu mai ang. Inhneh a hnekin keimah ni a zawk hi ONENESS aiah SEPARATED kan ni zawk hial thei a ni.
Thlaraubo veina lam tur ni paw’n ka hre lo hle bawk. He Universe siamtu kan Pathian nihphung hi kan hre fuh tak tak lo bawk ang, keini hian. A hring a hranin A ropuina kan chan hunah a chiang mai ang.
October 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
#6 a dik lutuk!
October 2nd, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Ani ngawt mai..inhnial na tur ringawt ani..a UPC lutuk uak3
October 2nd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Inhnial rawh u
October 2nd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
In chhut ve ngai emaw, Kohhran atchilh deuh ho hian Pathian thu hi an hre tak tak ngai lo. Isua khan Kohhran pawl leh Religion hi a din tum a ni reng reng lova, sakhaw din a tum lo, thilsiam tinreng hnenah a chanchin puang darh a vak darh turin min chah. Mitinrengin a chanchin kan hriat hi a duh ber chu a ni. Zoram hian Kohhran kan pathian lutuka, chhe theilo, tlu thei ngai lo turah leh Pathian biakna bika kan ngaih lutuk tak vang hi aniang nge Pathian pawhin min then darh vak ni. Kohhran leh Pawl hi la un lutuk teh suh u. Pathian kohhran chu keimahni theuh hi kan ni, Hindu leh Mosolman pachal pawh tiamin.
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 pm
comment ka han chhiar thlen meuh chuan ka comment peih ta hauh lo mai……. (N)
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Post tupa hian chawlhni chawhnuah thu sawise muthlu an tam awm sawi rei duh hmel sia…..biru nghal daih
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Asteric thu TRINITY chu tui takin ka ti ti pui a,mahse ka theo chu Kohhran atchilh a han inpuh daih chu a inngaihtuah ve ngai em aw ka tia,a rilru tet thlak.heidenrial 😛
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Facebook-a grup poh kha ka hne … chhiar peih tlot lo … Min lo hrethym mai teh unnn … (N)
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Ka ti ta a,Doctrine a rika inhnial hi a tul ka ti lem lo,ka theo chu ka rawn postulate a,lo la hmelhriatlo leh lo zir mek an awm taka rawn pharh ka ni.Inhnial na emaw tih tlatna hi sim a hun.UPC tihdan tih ai chuan Oneness tihdan ti ila,chuti lova UPC tihdan a induce hi oppost tu atana chauhthubarawh tawngkam a ni.Engpawh nise sawiho dial dial tur ah ka ngai. (I) (L) 😀
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Lo sawiho teh u … Kan daikal teh ang 😛
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Ltachhakchhuak: Nangma’n i lo POSTULATE vel a maw?
Kha lamah Durga Puja hman lai a ni bawk a i hman viau a ni. Part-in i lo then hrang thlap thlap mai.
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Posttupa chuh..facebookah khan duhtawk ve mai mai tur ania…khangah khan thil hre uk si lova mawl tak tak an tam a, inhnial luai luai a, in hlawhtling riau ani. Ngaiteh, hetah chuan mifing awmkhawm an ni bawk a, thu atthlaka inhnial mai mai peih tumah an awm ta lo a ang mange.. 🙂
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Post tupa ka kawment khi chu OT ah lo ngai rawh, denomination thil anih deuh reuh avangin tunlai ka vei zawng ah ka pawt ve mai mai anih khi. I post nen hian a in relate lutuk hran lo 😉 OT tih ka tarlan loh avangin sorry
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 pm
He he,pehhel dan inzawng thiam e.A fact lutuk zawk nge pawh ka hre lo!He ka theo zet chu tuemaw talin Pathian hi inzawm khawm nge Pakhat tak tak tih alo hriat theih nan malsawm rawh se.Amen! (F) (L)
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
#19 (C)
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Pu Lalthan hawla hmingin Pu Lal Thanhawla thil kan dil ngai awm pawh ka hre chiah lo??
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Lo hnial ve hram teh uuu …. 😀
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Lt: POSTULATE pawh hre chiang lem lovin tawng kau chhehah lo hmang thuai a ni maw… 😀 Kha tawngkam kha mi ta a ni bawkin ka hria. 😉
Kar thar hman nuam ule.
Tin, Lta tan bik- Happy Durga Puja. 😀 (ka hria che haw suh, fiamthu!)
October 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Oneness emaw trinity tih tak hi Bible ah a awm pawh ka ring lo. In hnial suh u. He khawvel siamtu hi Pathian ani a, Thuthlung hlui huna a Pathian kha kan Pathian ala ni reng.
October 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
I rawn post leh a, ka comment hmasa zawk kha ka paste ve leh tawp dawn, inhnialtir tum rikngawt hi fuh a ti vak lo-Pathian thuah bik chuan:
“Oneness-ho hian hrilhfiah theih vek rin an tum vang a ni bawk.
Englekhawle, Oneness hi a dik leh dik loh chu thuhran-Monotheism leh Oneness hi chu ngaihfin chi chu a ni lo phawt. Oneness lama an chhuanvawr Sabelliana(modalism sawichhuaktu)kha kohhran inkhawmpui hmasa khan an lo hnawtchhuak tawh a-an tan khang inkhawmpui kha fak rual a ni lo. An sawisel reng a.
Sabellianism pawmtu erawh an inti duh miah lo an lawmawm ve-na.
Mizoramah hi chuan UPC hi an ni mai a, ka hmusit hauh lo va, an ropui lem lo. Uar bik nei pawl an ni a, UPC tak phei hi chu kum 1900 hnu lama ding kha an ni mai a; hlimsang–kohhran hmu ro-ho din a ni nghe nghe(sap ramah pawh).
Kohhran chu a ziaah kan teh tur a ni pakhat a-doctrine tih vel ai chuan…chanchin tha puandarh an ngaipawimawh em tihte hi a questionable fe zawk. Mizoram UPC kohhran-ah hian ka inkhawm ve zauh zauh tawh a-pawl dang sawichhe reng rengin kan tluan ziah. Ramthar-a an puan chu Kristian bawk an la ni ta dahrual a, sakhaw dang betu an vei hman lo a ni ber. Dik se, Pathianin an buai pawh a phal lo vang.
Kohhran dik chuan Thutak a dah pawimawh tur a ni. Thlarau Thianghlim aia a hnathawh phulpui chiam a-a bak han sawn lehna tur awm chuang si lo; thutak han khelpuia nawi leh riau si-patlingpui si hlup hlup ringawt ‘engtin nge Lal Isua ram a lo zau ang’ tih khun taka ngaihtuah peih si lo-pawthura tal vak vak ringawt zia hi eng doctrine hrin nge a nih?
Kohhran chuan inremna a ngaipawimawh tur a ni…Oneness kan hmuhte hian an ngaipawimawh em? A pawmtu theuh theuh pawh an inrem hleithei lo a ni a,(nupui pasal thlenga kawppui theih loh leh chhungkaw tibuai duh khawpa oneness a awm theih tih a hriat) kohhran dang chu sawi loh.
Rinna hian min tithanglian ang a, hmasawnna min thlen tur a ni a, nitin khawsakah pawh…Oneness ringtute hi mi hmasawnte an ni em?
Kohhran dik chuan vantlang nunah hmasawnna leh kawngdik a kawhhmuh tur a ni-Oneness pawmtu tamna apiang hi an buarchuar nge, an felfai thlap khawvelin a hria.
Kohhran dik chuan a dawm rual tur a ni.. chu chu i neih loh chuan, i dawn loh chuan, i chan loh chuan…thlarau mi i ni lo…Toronto harhna kha hrereng rawh.
A dik chuan Pathianin mal a sawm tur pawh a ni. Khawvel kohhran nung ber ber leh chanchin tha puangtu tam berte hi eng ringtu nge? Thurin chu a takin a lo lang fo tur a ni.
Kohhran leh thurinah hian inhnialna a awm fo tumah kan inhmin lo-mahse thurin lam ni lo-Kohhran thawhrah kha kan en a tul tawh zawk.
Ka comment thui ta, ka rilru sual vanga tih a nih ka ring lo va-’marawhchu hetiang post hi ka hmu leh thin a, ka comment ngai lem lo va-a zing ta deuh. Trinity pawmtute hian ‘a dik ber’ tiin kan iak kan iak lem lo-a dik kan ti a, kan pawm mai-inhnialna tur nen lama inzirte hian an tum lutuk hi- a dik lo em ni chu aw!!!!!!!”
Thianpa, kan pawm dana pawm lote hi ring lo miah chuan ka ngai ve hran chuang lo.
October 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
A phel lian zawk nge i nih phel tê zawk?
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:16 am
Ka ngaihdan tlem;
Post leh comment reng2 ah ‘ka thu rin hi a dik ber’ ti ni awm ziazang a lo rak ve vak2 a, midang kohhran leh thurin lo sawichhiat vak2 a, mawl viau ang a inngaih chiam thin hi chu ti ve tawhlo teh ang u. A changkan loh thlak riau.
Facebook vel a inhnial fiam vel mai2 na awmtawk vel lek ni inka hria.
Kohhran hrang2 a awm a, an doctrine kum 5 theuh tal kan zirchiang vek tawh te anih chuan thuhran ni se.
Hetianga rak tam2 hi Hindu, Muslim tamna ram khawilai ah emaw piang in seilian se, Kristian te pawh hi an hmusit in mawl an tih viau ka ring!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:12 am
Hlimthla ang chauhin kan la hmu, tih unaupa poulan a sawi kha a la dik tluang zel e.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 am
http://www.cogwriter.com/trinity.htm hi lo bih ve mai mai teh u.Chuan ka theo hi BIBLE atang chauh,philo tello,Fact,spiritual ngai hranpa chuang lo a ni.Church anga inbeihna chu exceptional case,a inkaihhnawihlo. (L)
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 am
Kristian sakhaw bia te chuan rindan inang hetiang hi kan intawm:
1. Holy Bible hi thu inziak mai mai ni lovah kan ngai tlang a, Pathian puih naa ziak ngei niin kan ring bawk.
2. Kristian rindan (creed) hi rinna puanchhuah nan kan pawm tlang bawk ( (i.e., Apostles’ Creed, Nicene Creed, leh/emaw Athanasian Creed).
3. Kristian Church/denomination zawng zawng chuan Trinitarian formula (ie., “Pa leh Fapa leh Thalrau Thianghlim ka baptist a che,” tih Isua in ti tura min zirtir angin kan hmang thin (Mathaia 28:19)).
Khitiang 3 te zawmlo pawl chuan engang pawhin Kristian ah inchhal mahse, Kristian anni lova, English a <CULT an tih hi an ni (fact).
Enge cult awmzia chu: Cult chu midang rindan ang lova mahni duh dan anga kal hrang a khurbing ho UPC ang te hi CULT chu an ni (fact)
Chuvangin Kristian te chuan UPC te hi hnial hnial suh u, awmzia a awmlo (fact).
Hei hi thudik a ni a, huat tura rawn tar chhuak ka ni miahlo ania. Huatthu a in lakloh ka beisei.
Isua Krista chuan Mathaia 7:15 ah khan hetiang ho laka kan inven a tul zia alo sawi daih tawh reng a nih kha. Tin, 1Johana 4:1 ah leh Thesolonika 5:21 ah pawh fimkhur a tul zia kan hmu thei bawk ang.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 am
Pu HV..hman lai kristian te kha cult ti a nuai chimih tum an ni reng asin…a le le le.. 😀
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 am
lrp, hei hi i hman chuan lo chhiar ta mai mai che. Ka hnial duhlo che u hairehai 🙂
They share with other “Oneness Pentecostals” the practice of baptizing in the name of Jesus Christ only. Jesus Christ specifically said to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19); any deviation from this commandment is unacceptable. But the UPC will point to Acts 2:38 and many other passages to give validity to their argument. So who has more authority, Jesus or the apostles?
They believe that water baptism is essential to salvation. But Jesus did not say so in His conversation with Nicodemus. (John 3:3-8)
http://www.eaec.org/cults/unitedpentecostal.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 am
lrp #32 anih chuan Kristian ten Kristian nilo cult kan nih ang bawkin Kristian chiahlo ho pawhin cult minlo tive tihna a ni maw hairehai 😉
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:23 am
Kristian hi bible ah ori takin a awmlo a,Greek tawng atanga lak a ni an tih ve kha maw.Christian tih leh root meaning inang an hman chu: 1.Chrestos Mithras-pure,sacred,holy. 2.Christ Helios-mandaean. 3.Chreistos osiris-Alexandrian. CULT alo rik takah chuan Juda ho te tarmit a Kristian te landan,hrechiang duh tan http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/chimera.htm leh http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/christian.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 am
Pu HV..a ziak tu khi tunge? 😀
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 am
http://www.fossilized.com/chimera.html leh http://www.fossilized.com/christian.html zawk hi aw 😛
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:29 am
Lrp #36 European-American Evangelistic Crusades ziak. 🙂
Heihi lo chhiar leh bawk la:
http://winformation.us/upci/index.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:33 am
Ka link khi dik theilo,in cut zel,lungthuhmin nan aw http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/chimera.html leh http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/christian.html 😛
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 am
PU Hv..mexican pa Mizoram chanchin ka lo hrilh a!…
Engpawhnise..i link dahte hi bible a in ziakah anih hmel loh! hehe
European. American envangilistic te thu zawng zawng hi zawm tur em ni? an nin cult an tih kha cult i ti ve dawn ngawt em ni?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:40 am
UPC te cult an nih chuan engvangin nge Pres ho cult an nih lohna chhan tur?
Khawi lai tak ah khan nge in thliarna?
Kan rin dan kan rin nghehna hi emni?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 am
H.vangchhia link chu a that rual rualin trinitarian hoin oneness an debate a an hnehlohna point hlir a ni mai a.he link hi lo chhiar ve teh aw http://www.cogwriter.com/trinity.htm (E)
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:45 am
UPC te cult anga chhuah hi i tum deuh ziah a.. 😀
cult in nih loh zia han proof la! 😀
Cult awmzia chu mi pangngai te atang a physically a in ti hrang, rin dan hran hlak nei tihna ani. Kan rin a in anga, kan doctrine a dang mai ani. Hei hian min dah hrang lo va, kan rindan a in ang lo deuh e tih mai ani e..mahse min han dah cult hi kan tan lawmna..haha
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:47 am
lrp #40 Kristian ten cult kan tih chu #31 naah khian ka sawi tawh khi mawle 🙂
Maxican pa chuan ngaihnawm a ti em? 🙂
http://i53.tinypic.com/wu5xsj.jpg
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:50 am
#43 i sawi, “Cult awmzia chu mi pangngai te atang a physically a in ti hrang, rin dan hran hlak nei tihna ani.” a dik chiah alawm.
Chumi chhanna pawh #31 na ami tho khi ni mai teh se. 🙂
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:51 am
Pu Hv..saptawng ka thiam lo em a, ka hrilh hlei thei lo.. 🙂
Pathian dah hrante, Pathian mite, Pathian thu zawmte hi kan present context ah chuan cult an ti..
engpawhnise, kal tumna inang theuh te hi chu in hmial bawrh bawrh tur..thenkhatin thlawhnain, thenkhatin lawngin, thenkhatin ke in..a pawimawh chu kan thlen tum a in ang em? tih hi ani e..
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 am
lrp, #31 a ka ziah/copy ang khian Kristian te rinna inghahna, Pa leh Fapa leh Thlarau Thianghlim ringlo te chu Kristianah ngaih an nilo alawm.
All Christian Churches and/or Denominations share certain characteristics in common. For example:
1. They accept the Holy Bible as the inspired Word of God.
2. They accept the creeds as statements of faith (i.e., Apostles’ Creed, Nicene Creed, and/or Athanasian Creed).
3. They baptize believers with the Trinitarian formula (i.e., “I baptize thee in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.” This was the form given by Jesus Christ to His Disciples in Matthew 28:19.)
Any church or denomination which does not conform to the above three characteristics is NOT a Christian church or denomination, although they may claim to be so.
Chhiar zau duh chuan, a hnuaia link ah leh link dang a chhungah chhiar tur a tam khawp mai:
http://winformation.us/upci/index.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 am
Cult ah inpuhna hi chu doctrine hran vang mai a nia.Doctrine vanga cult nih chu internal ah Kristian chuan a haw hle a nih hmel.Mahse Cult antihna point hi physical leh mental a inlahrang ni chuanglo,doctrine point out tho chu a ho tlat.Mawl leh dawizep ang reng taka Oneness paihthlak tumna thumal mai mai.Chawtak khuk pui chi a nilo! (H)
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:57 am
Pu HV, i comment 31 na ami khi!
3. Kristian Church/denomination zawng zawng chuan Trinitarian formula (ie., “Pa leh Fapa leh Thalrau Thianghlim ka baptist a che,†tih Isua in ti tura min zirtir angin kan hmang thin (Mathaia 28:19)).
Hei hi kan Pathian, Isua Krista zirtirna dik tak ani em? Mathaia 28.19 in a sawi chiah ani em? Bible ka kawl lo pek a! 🙂
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:59 am
lrp #49
Matthew 28:19
New International Version (NIV)
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+28%3A19&version=NIV
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:01 am
Isua Krista zirtir dan ang ngeiin, “Pa leh Fapa leh Thalrau Thianghlim hmingin ka baptist a che,” tiin Kristian puithiam/pastor te chuan mi an baptist in an chham thin.
https://bible.cc/matthew/28-19.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:02 am
Para then nasa rem rem
5th para chauh aw….
@post “Pathian chauh chu sualna neilo a ni a…”
Guess work e mai, vantirhloh tlusual ve lo,sualna neilo chhiar senloh an awm e.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:03 am
50..Pu Hv, hei tak hi a lawm an sawi thin chu..in the NAME …saptawng thiam tan chuan a hriatthiam theih ang chu..! In the name of American President, his son and his spirit.. a awmzia ka hmu thiam lo..
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:04 am
Acts 2:38,8:16,10:48 te en ngam ila.Apostle te tarmit ah chuan matthew 28:19 hi “in the name of Jesus” tih a ni tlat mai a.Hre zau duh tan https://www.cogwriter.com/baptism.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:04 am
Pu Zoho a a rawn inlar a, a duh duh dan in rawn sawi fiah se, ka pawm thuak ang..
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 am
lrp, hriatthiam loh tur leh lehlin dikloh (wrong interpretation) awm lo turah ka ngai.
Simple Duhlian tawng chuan: “Kal la, ram tinah chanchian tha hril la, Pa, Ka Pathian leh a Fapa “Keimah” (Isua) leh Thlarau Thianghlim hmingin baptisma in chantir zel tur a ni,” tih anih ber chu.
“Keima hming pathum hmangin baptist rawh u,” a tilo. Baptistu Johana’n a baptist pawh khan van atangin aw lo chhuakin, “Heihi Ka Fapa Ka lawm em em chu a ni,” atia ni lawm ni Pa Pathian, Isua Krista pa khan. “Hei hi Keimah, Fapa anga lo kal, ka lawm em em keimah leh amah tho ka ni,” emaw a tilo reng reng hairehai
No offence
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:10 am
Hei pawh Apostle te zirtir dan https://bible.cc/acts/2-38.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:10 am
Pu HV,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJfJhiSH9r8
lo thlir ve ve mai la.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:17 am
hei pawh hi ngaihtlak uluk deuh chi ani..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&NR=1
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:28 am
Rev. Bernard hi physics a PhD ani e..tuna kan kohhran puipa ber ani e
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:28 am
lrp #58 a awm ang ve hle mai a. Ka en chhuak thlap e.
Heihi lo chhiar chhuak ve hram ta che aw. Chhiar piat puat lo hram turin ka ngen bawk che.
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:39 am
Ka hriatthiam vak loh ka’n zawt ve teh ang che u: “Aw ka Pa, a theih chuan he no hian min pêl lul rawh se; nimahsela keima thu ni lovin , nangma thu thu ni zâwk rawh se,” tiin a ṭawngṭai a. (Matthaia 26:39) Heta “Keima thu ni lovin, nangma thu thu ni zâwk rawh se” tihah hian “nangma” tih lai tak hi tu a sawina nge ni ta ang le?? Amah leh amah a insawina ti dawn i la, “Keima thu ni lovin” a ti ang lawi bawk si a, heti laiah hian Buaia ka buai thar leh ṭhin.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:41 am
#62 Pa neilo vin Pa a lam tawp nang. Pathian lehkhabu Thianghlim a inziak diklo taka mahni rindan ang zawk a kailek chu Pathian laka sual niin ka hria.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:48 am
Mihring kha fully God nise kha tawngkam,mihring tawrh awm tawk lekah a chauhpui i ring em?Post ah khian a awm,unau min tlantu tawngkam,Adama tawngkam leh, Pathian leh mihring inkar sawi felna tawngkam a ni.Hei hi lo bih teh https://bible.cc/1-timothy/2-5.htm leh https://bible.cc/galatia/3-20.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:11 am
62..hriatthiam loh tur a awm em ni? US president ni ta la, Kum 90 kal ta vel khan Mizoramah lo kal ta la, I US president nihna kha sawi lang fo a tul dawn em ni? Mizo ten an hriat thiam miau loh chuan!
Question..
1. Engvangin nge Isua khan a rawn kal hun kha khatih hun lai kher kha a thlan?
2.Tunge Pathian ropui zia hrechianga a thu hril tute chu?
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:28 am
lrp, #65 mi pakhat chuan ruat sa tawh anih vangin a chief guest anih loh ni pawhin chief guest/VIP emaw a inti tho asin.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:55 am
I Korinth 8:6 Keini tan erawh chuan Pathian pakhat chauh (Pa chu) a awm a, ama hnen atangin engkim a chhuak a, keini pawh ama tana awm kan ni;
Lalpa pakhat chauh (Isua Krista chu) a awm bawk a, amah avangin engkim a awm a, keini pawh amah avang bawka awm kan ni.
ONE GOD YAHWEH tarlan chian a ni a, Krsta LU a ni. LORD hranpa Pathian Fapa Yahshua tarlan a ni leh a —van leh lei inkara PALAI a nih thu nen. Mipa LU a ni.
THLARAU THIANGHLIM hriakthihna changtu FAPA chu KRISTOS (KRISTA); Hebrai-hoten MASSIACH an tih MESSIA TITLE neitu a ni bawk.
ONENESS OF GOD tih hi Bible-ah a lang ngai lo va, GNOSTICISM tharlam tak a ni.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:53 am
He post hi post tha lo tak ani. Oneness kan ring emaw, Trinity kan ring emaw anih pawh in mahni in rin mai tur. Issue sensitive deuh ani a, Misual.com ang ah te hi chuan sakhaw lampang inhnial na ti chhuak thei ang chi hi chu post lo hram ila a tha khawp mai
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Tuikuk pathian siam theih loh
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
@ post-tupa… comment thenkhat atanga UPC i nih vanga an rawn bei chiam khi kei pawh tha ka ti lo… a thuziah a dik loh lai sawi lang si lova, a ziaktu sawisel vak hi a thing! Mithenkhatin mahni ngaihdan dik tih viau hi a tha lo an ti a, a nihna takah chuan mahni chu dik kan inti vek! chuti a nih chuan kan ngaihdan tawmpui lo tute chu an dik lo kan tihna a ni. Chutihrualin kan ngaihdan tawmpui lo tute kan hmusit a nih chuan thil dik a ni lo. Pathian i ngaihdan i rawn thawh a ni ve mai a, a pawi reng reng lo, thu inchuh te chu a thiang a lawm…
I thuziah hi tha ka ti viau a, last 2 paragraph tih loh…. hun ka nei tlem lutuk a, han sawiho a chakawm viau nen…
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
@ posttupa….
Isuan a thusawi Luke 20:42 (MIzo Bible ka nei remchang lova, englishin ka rawn post mai ang)
Then Jesus said to them, “Why is it said that the Messiah is the son of David? 42 David himself declares in the Book of Psalms:
“‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
43 until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”’[c]
44 David calls him ‘Lord.’ How then can he be his son?”
tih hi engtin nge i chhan ang? Isuan mi pahnih an awm a ti chiang viau sia…
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Oneness ho chuan Pathianin dinglam leh veilam a nei lo an ti alawm..
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
1 Johan 4:8-a “Pathian chu hmangaihna (God is love)” tih hi unitarianism (I tawngkama ONENESS) in engtin ngei i hrilfiah ang?
Pathian chu hmangaihnaa khat a ni a ti lova, Pathian chu hmangaihna a ni a ti zawk… Hmangaihna (LOve) hi minung (person) 2 tal a ngai a, mi 1 ah chauh love a in express thei lo! Chutih a nih chuan Pathian hi minung 1 chauh lo ni ta se, Mihring a siam hma (lei leh van siam hma) khan tunge a hmangaih? Pathian famkim a nih dawn chuan mihring tel lo pawhin hmangaihnaah a famkim tur a nia, Amah minung 1 chauh a nih chuan a va famkim hmel loh ve! Amah tifamkim turin mihring a siam a ngai a ni sia…
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Heb 10:12
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Mark 14:62
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
“Sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies
as a stool for your feet.”’ Therefore let all
the house of Israel know for a certainty that
God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus
whom YOU impaled.”
(Acts 2:33-36)(NWT)
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Pa leh Fapa hi minung 2 an ni tih chiang takin bible pawhin a sawi a, minung 1 anga i la ngai tlat thei hi a mak ka ti deuh.. NOI
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Pu HV, dinglam leh veilam aneilo an ti ania oo..
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
chemtartawta, ka comment #31 na atang khan uluk takin chhiar la an awmzia i hrechiang thei mahna. Huat turah erawh ka ngailo, thudik anih miau avangin.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
FB ah lah kan inhnial luai2 a hetah lehzel alo la ziak peih a nia chi loh e hehe!! tiro TATRAWT!
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Pathian(Pa)intih hi engtik lai maha hmuh ala ni lo a https://bible.cc/john/1-14.htm Thupuana Pa hi Isua a nih loh vek chuan Bible hian dawt a sawi hnem dawn mang e.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
chemtatrawta, Anti Christ pawh Setana kha amah leh amah a fapa angin alo kal dawn aniang hairehai
ltachhakchhuak hei hi uluk takin chhiar ta che. A sei khawp mai mahse, i mamawh niin alang.
https://www.altupc.com/altupc/articles/jespray.htm
Tin, Mathaia 11:25 ah chuan, “At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children,” a inti a ni.
“Ka Pa, lei leh van a ropui ber, ka fak a che,” ti a Isua Krista tawngtaina hi a inbum tihna em ni?
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Chawnghilh,i commen Pathian Pakhat(PA) i tih khi Trinity doctrine Godhead ah person pathum awm nen compare rawh,PA vekah person pathum a exist dawn a sin.Mak tlat!!Hei hi TRINITY i chianglo emai lo chhiar teh https://www.newadven.org/cathen/15047a.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Chawnghilh,i commen Pathian Pakhat(PA) i tih khi Trinity doctrine Godhead ah person pathum awm nen compare rawh,PA vekah person pathum a exist dawn a sin.Mak tlat!!Hei hi TRINITY i chianglo emai lo chhiar teh https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:05 pm
H.vangchhia,i tan ka tawngtai e.Hmanni ka post hmasa ah Godhead te kha person an tia,chutah chuan 3persons a awm leh a intia.Mak deuh a sin.Isua tawngkam hi ka post ang khian a hniak hnung kan zui nan,kan tihdan tur a tihmasa a,Mihring a ni a,Palai tawngkam a ni. https://bible.cc/1_timothy/2-5.htm ah hian Pathian a in mediator chawp thei lo. https://bible.cc/galatians/3-20.htm ah hian Mihring alo channa Isua chauh a ni.TRINITY ah chuan Pathian ah mihringna leh pathianna a awm kawp lo a,Isua ah Pathianna leh mihrinna a awm kawp a ni zawk!
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:08 pm
ltachhakchhuak #83 khatiang rinna inneih vang khan alawm Kristian church/denomination ten CULT an tih che u.
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
*trinity ah chuan Pathianah mihrinna leh pathianna a awm a.Bible ka referah erawh khi chuan Isua ah Pathianna leh mihrinna a awm a ni zawk.
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
#85 I interpret sual anih mai mai chu mawle. Anih ang ang pawh khan han chhiar la, Pa (God) tirhin Fapa (who is God)kha mihringah alo chang a nih kha.
Hetah chuan ka kut ka sil tawh e.
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Evi leh Diabol-a khan Eden huanah khan thei in eitir niloin sex an hmang a ni ti pawl zu han awm tlat a. Chuan Kaina kha Diabol-a fapa a ni a, Abel-a kha Adam-a fa. Tichuan Kaina khan Abel-a a that a, keini thlahte kal zel chu Diabol-a thlahte kan lo ni tawh tihna a nih chu. An ti.
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Pathian pakhat hma ah khan a hmelma Lucifer-a avanga dan bawh chhetu mi chi 2 an awm a: Pa 1 chu flesh leh bone neilo Angels(Pathian sipai) te anni a, pa 1 dang leh chu flesh leh bone nei vaivuta a siam Human(Pathian fa ti a koh) te an ni. Angels te nen an duh thlanna ve ve a Lucy-a hi zawm anni.
A tluk tir tu leh a huanga neitu chu mi thumhmun (Lucifer-a) ve ve a ni a, Pathian mi huat ber leh chatuan pawha a ngaihdam loh tura chu hepa Lucy-a hi a ni. A thlemthluk tak Angels te pawh a ngaidam chuang lo.
BUT….zawhna awm ta tlat mai….Why only Humans can saved and not one-third of the Angels?
Because, GOD jealousy and angriness would never reduce to anyone else. Both human an angels could not be save other than His Son will do(but only for human). Son of God can not save Angels, meanwhile human can be. Why? In the Bible we see that why human is made for and what purpose & who will take charge for them. Human is made for the love of God and he called them as my son (Adam, Son of God) and He gave The Son(among Himself) to sacrifice for them before the world was born.(1 Pet 1:20) And He(Jesus) will take charge for us eternally
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
#88 cont. Pathian hian a ngaihdam theihloh mihring leh vantirhkoh te khi engtikahmah ngaihdam a tum lo (Pathian zia a inphat theilo). Amaherawh chu mihring hi mawlmang takin a ngaihdam theih bik niin kan hre tlata, chuti anih ringawt chuan Pathian chu dawthei ah kan chantir dawn a ni.
Ngaidam theilo tu Pathian khi ala ngai reng a, chatuan pawhin a zia a thlak lovang. Angel te anglo taka Ngaihdam theihna kan chan bikna taka hi Pathian ngaihdamna kan ti reuh si a, a saisa ta nuaih mai a ni.
Trinity rinna ah kan lut taa, Pathian ngaidam theilo tu a hi Pa chu a ni a, thiamloh chantir ngailova leh Hmangaihnaa khat Pathian ngaidamtua chu Fapa in kan hre ta a ni. Tichuan a awm hran lohva thuhmun veka kan dah a kan oneness chuan amah leh amah a inkalh dawn tihna nih chu
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
HE naupang hla duh zawng hi lo en ve teh u. Naupang hla a duh thaklo, Led Zeppelin ah chuan a bu nghat nghat mai hairehai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:40 pm
#67 khi AMEN